Gratitudinally Speaking

[DaBee]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jeannie Jones:
[B]Greetings, sweet spirits--

So wonderful to hear about the grandbabes! As I've not had that experience in this lifetime, I sort of live it vicariously where I can find it. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif

Hope you're having a happy, relaxing day today, Jeannie. That goes for everyone else, too.

Back in Texas several years ago I had a friend that was just a bit younger than me and though she had been married quite a few years, had never had a child. Seems that it just never "took". She told me that what spirit had told her was that when a woman was "barren" during this lifetime it was due to the fact that she had had many children during the past life and was here to rest and recuperate this time. That was her truth and it seemed pretty right on to me. I am 55 and it is amazing to me the number of people that I consider friends that have not gone through the birthing process. Could be because I have only once in all of these adult years been something of a standard suburbia kinda person. I prefer the Bohemian lifestyle. Anyway, there were kids everywhere in that neighborhood. It wasn't exactly enjoyable to me. Guess that's why I birthed only 1 child. I was the oldest of 4 growing up and deemed "little momma" from an early age. It sucked.
I enjoy telling people this story about taking a rest when anyone laments about not having children. Have a feeling that I'm building up to maybe a dozen the next time around...whoa is me! http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif
love and light and pamperville
deb-o-oldwomanwholivedinashoe

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[PMilam]

If this theory is correct, I'm up for a barren life, next time around. I had kids living with me, 4 of my own, and others, for 35 years.

Today, we had a celebration for one of our s-i-l's 50th birthday. What a group.. just the immediate family is 12.. toss in a few friends, and you've got a house full! It was fun.. his mom was here, and we all met for the first time. I think that all of us together can be a bit overwhelming, for someone with only one sibling.

We've talked, just here lately, about how different it is to grow up in a big fam, or in a small one. Only child... many children. I always find it interesting to guess, when I am first getting to know people.

I'm the oldest of 5... so, I've done little mamma, too.
The older I got, the more I withdrew from my family. I just felt so different from them. Those teen years are so often like that, I guess. It was not til I was in my late 20's that my sisters and I started "playing" together. At 29, I ... you know... "found Eureka", went back, and got Jude.. she fell in love with it too, as did my other sister.. but she was lured away by an awful man. We never got her back here!!
Then, my parents moved up, followed by my brother, Rick, who a few of you know... he's a mess.
Now, my other brother, Bart, is flirting with moving here. He just turned 40, 2 days after his first child turned 1. It would be a big move. Leaving Austin, as Jude and I did, when it was just starting to boom, is one thing. Leaving Austin, as a giant, cultural oasis, music magnet, art center.. is another....
I guess.

Ok.. I need to go to bed.. I think I've been sleep-typing.

Sweet dreams

[Jeannie Jones]

Thanks, gals, for sharing your interesting and amazing stories of birth family.

Patt, you say "throw in a couple of friends", as if an immediate family of 10 (!) were not a houseful by itself!

My family experience has been soooooooooooo different from yours. I was the only child of my father, yet I grew up with my younger (half-) brother, Jeff. We grew up in a fairly quiet household (in Chicago).

When we were little, Jeff and I shared bunkbeds. We'd talk a little before going to sleep, and I'll never forget Jeff's song that he wrote when he was quite small. "The Salt Song". It went something like this:

The salt rolls up the hill,
The salt rolls down the hill.
The salt rolls up the bicycle,
The salt rolls down the bicycle.
etc.

A while later he wrote "The Pepper Song", which was pretty much an echo of "The Salt Song".

When I was in 6th grade, we moved to my grandma & grandpa's place in Blue Island, IL, where we shared an attic, until 7th grade, when we moved to our first house with our own separate bedrooms.

As time went on, we kind of kept to ourselves in our own separate rooms. When we'd be with my mom & step-dad, like in the evening watching TV, we'd be 4 people in the same room, but each in his own little world. It felt rather strange, like being isolated, yet among others.

We weren't what you'd think of as a "close family", and when I came of age, I moved out, lured by big cities here and there, at a time when long distance calls were quite expensive, and I wasn't much of a correspondent.

Jeff went to Bradley U. in Peoria, and was president of his fraternity in his second semester FRESHMAN year. He had an IQ of 151, and went on to med. school at U. of I., Champaign-Urbana. Then the schizophrenia hit.

He was paranoid schiz. for 14 yrs., sometimes medicated, mostly not, when Mom received a form letter telling "occupant" that Jeff was dead in San Francisco.

My dad, step-dad, step-mother, Uncle George, and 5-yrs.-younger brother have all passed. It's just Mom and I now. I treasure these years I've had with Mom, as a gift from God.

Wow, didn't mean this to be such a downer, and I'm sure not saying "poor me", but just trying to show you why your stories of family are so fascinating to me.

Loving thanks for your tales,

Jeannie

[DaBee]

Last night Gehrett (grandson) landed on the coffee table head first whilst running through the house. So it's off to the ER in B'ville. Before the 5 sutures were put into place (which took 4 of us to hold him down), the very helpful and attentive nurse was letting him listen to his own heart and talking calm to him. As she was looking at his eyes (the gash was just above the right eyebrow) he said to her, "I wuv you", In just the sweetest voice. I thought she was going to melt on the floor right there. This kid can be the onriest, yet kindest 3 year old I've ever seen. Today I asked him where his brain was in his body and he told me it was in his big toe. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif
So glad you peeked in on the Erocktica, Lany. Have no idea when Marsha will have regular hours. Am sure that she wants to get everything in just right first. I do know that when she is there working on it, she's essentially "open". I am having the pleasure of artisticating 3 and possibly 4 more that I'll put in the shop by the end of the week. I'm really excited for Marsha for this undertaking and also for the other artists that she has invited. Did you notice the wood carvings? If you see Marsha, ask her about the old chap that is creating these beautiful pieces.
Wrist is doing good. Stitches out and healing fine. They put in a cortisone shot right in the thumb joint while I was still out of it and the swelling has gone down considerably. Wrist itsself is still pretty sensitive to movement, but that's just the old arthritis doing its thing.
How are you doing and feeling, Lany? How did the benefit go yesterday w/Mark?
Surely we'll run into each other here shortly. Of course, don't think you know who I am, but I know you!!!
deb (aka GrandmaBee)

[mtnviewsteve]

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Spirit Friends,
Missed everyone today, but trust you are ALL well. First day back was "wonderful", no battles, no excruciating back pain, an overall very pleasant, learning day. Thank you Spirit, and thank you Spirit Friends for the prayers and LIGHT energy you sent me today. I really could feel you presence and LOVE. Blessings!!
Guess what I'm doing while I'm speaking with you? If you guess, making a fresh, strong pot of Colombian, you'd be correct.
Well, please let me know you're "out there" and tell me about YOUR day.
You're old Brother LIGHT,
sTeVeO

"GOOD STARTS"
Spirit is always at home. Wherever I find myself, I know that I rest in the arms of Spirit, protected and comforted. I look around my life and realize that the home in which I live is also the dwelling place of Spirit, both in form and as the formless.
I let the order and wholesome nature of spirit become manifest in my home, tending to its needs consciously and joyfully, seeing it as selfless service to the One Power. I keep my home clean and inviting, creating a space in which to celebrate my life and the lives of all I love.
I give thanks for the beautiful place in which I live, and I continually move through my life in a state of gratitude for all that Spirit gives to me and all creation in its lavish opulent way. It's good; and so it is.
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[PMilam]

I wish I was awake enough to put a few sentences together, but, I'm pooped. Played tourist today, with a friend.. hey, Steve you may remember Tim & Sue Moon??? They live apart now, but still share the name, Moon.
Anyway, Sue is on her way to see Genevive Paulson.. know her? She is a ... uh.... Spirit guided teacher. She sees things.. and is a Kundalini ... uh.. person.. I don't know what she calls herself.
She does readings and workshops on Kundalini. She lives just off Sylamore Rd. (Hwy 9 N from Allison). Right down the road from where we lived.. Twin Creek area.

Geeze.. long story.. again, with the sleep-typing.

Sue is on her way to Genevives.. from Council Bluffs, Iowa. Old friend, Jude and Craig delvered at least one of her 2 kids...

The point.. Patt... get to the point!
We went downtown, came back with bags.. when they asked, at one place, if I wanted to leave my bag and get it later.. And I thought of how many times a comment has been made, here, as to the amt of/lack of bags that folks were toting..

Lany, it's a funny story about Jade's 3 nites at Nanna and Papaws... maybe tomorrow night, I can sleep type that story.

Ok.. Sweet dreams.. don't let the bed bugs bite..

[DaBee]

Hi Y'all...hope everyone's had an Xtremely fine day in the Ozarks. I've had both hands full with the 2 Gkiddos last night and today and whew X 2! Wouldn't have it any other way!
Don't think that Marsha would mind me mentioning that she will be opening her new shop, Eureka Thyme, tomorrow. It's in conjunction with The Little Bread Company's opening tomorrow, also. I'm sure everyone knows, but just in case, it's in The Quarter building.
Love eating food that I've grown myself and tonight I'm dining on corn on the cob, snow peas (in July!), okra, tomatoes and cucumbers. This is the 1st time in lotsa years that I've actually harvested a garden that I started. Have always before grabbed the 1st errant wind blowing anywhere, due to the Gypsy blood in my soul, and got scattered for one reason or another. Think I'm here in the holler to stay. Even the flood waters couldn't move me.
Y'all have a great Wednesday evening.
Hey, Becky, haven't heard from you in a while. How ya' doing?
love and light and homemade ice cream sounds good right now
deb-o-rah

[DaBee]

Hello hello hello..............
I'm hearing an echo in here; where'd everybody go go go?
Hope you're feeling better, Lany. Do you ever get to take a day off? Go to the lake?
Sleep in late?
You still there somewhere, Patt? Seems like you were real busy with family. LOts of family. Hope you're having a funfunfun time.
Tired tonight.....long day of making the loop to Eureka, Fayetteville, then back to the holler. The new bakery looks and smells wonderful. Will take time to eat there soon.
later y'all
love and light
deb-o

[Becky Davis]

I am still around Deb. Had Torcan for a couple of days. He is getting personality now and I am just loving it. Trying to make a few dresses for my grand niece. I thought I would make them to really fit. On a couple of outfits, by the time I had gotten them done, they were too small. I forgot how fast even a four year old can grow. So I am making them a size up. Like duh.
Have two more dresses and a pinafore to do and I will be finished for awhile.
Are you still planning to come. We are really looking forward to it. Will load you up with monkey grass.

[DaBee]

Gosh, Becky, didn't realize until you mentioned it that the next LR visit is next week. I'll get with you about all of this on private E as soon as I can figure out my plan. Thanks for reminding me. Oh, looking forward to the monkey grass, too.
Thundering and getting dark outside, maybe I won't have to water the garden in the morning.
Hope all are having a groovy day. Peace/love/light/simplisticsplendor/deb

[DaBee]

Let's talk about the weather. It's almost surrealistic. The bright green grass and trees and the temps like it's November....in July. Anyone know what's going on? I'm not complaining, mind you. But if the Polar Ice Cap is going to melt, it sure might take a long time at this rate. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif I have a sister in the Willamette Valley in Oregon who said that she is miserable from the heat. They don't have a/c in homes there and the temp has been over 100 for several days. It's like we've switched weather.
Hope everyone is staying warm http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/eek.gif
love and light from the Ozark hollers
deb-o-rah

[Marsha Havens]

Eureka Thyme is officially open. My hours are limited at this time as I still have my other job(s), but will extend them soon. You can count on me being there from noon to 5:30 every day except Wednesday. There are many local artists' works there with more new things coming in all the time. Recently received beautiful black and white photography from Jim Young. Erocktica by Deb Thompson is one of my personal favorites and if you aren't familiar with her work you're in for a treat! Elizabeth Huff. Barbara Robinson. Carrie Falotico. Heather Huber. Sara Stalling. Sandra Young. Randal Thompson. Lyle Benton. Tom Klein. Steven Elston. Kriste-Le. Kathryn Semolic. Carol Peacock. Patricia Levine. I am making living wreaths and handmade no-charcoal incense from organic herbs and spices. Check it out! Sit and visit. I look forward to seeing you ---

[Another Texan]

Hey, I can't eavesdrop or lurk if ya'll don't post, where are ya'll? I need to read something up-lifting. I recieved a call at work today that the pups that had been rescued near the train station had to be put down, they had Parvo. Well at least they were well taken care of their last few days and for that I am grateful.

Mary

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[DaBee]

Hi Another Texan. Yes, it's pretty quiet over here, huh? I get kinda lonely being here by myself all the time, so it was really super great to see you drop by for a spell. Actually, I've only got a few spells left because one of our little sprite friends came by and borrowed several a few days ago. The ones that I do have need to be polished and spruced up, so just give me a little while and I'll have them all ready to go!
It's so sad about the pups. I lost several puppies to parvo back in Texas and I remember how fast they are down and then gone. From what I understand, parvo is quite communicable, so hopefully no other unvaccinated dogs came in contact with them.
Well, check back soon and maybe I'll have those spells ready and also, maybe someone else will decide to drop in and chat.
love and light and another Eureka weekend is here!
deb-o-rah

[mtnviewsteve]

http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif"Never Know WHO"

Spirit Friends,Sister DebKayOLiGhT
Had a full day at work today as they are turning all the" purchased finished goods" back over to me on Monday. So I've had to re-acclimate myself to procedures known and unknown, as lots of stuff has changed since I left. Just getting back into a "new groove" will be fun and challenging. Still so thankful Spirit allowed me to return, saving me from a most certain "wheelchair" had I not changed jobs.
My PT is amazed at the damage in my lower spine and the nerve damage in my right leg. She can't believe they put me back doing basically the same job as what caused my injury. I seem to be recovering slowly in spite of walking and doing my exercises at home. Just so thankful not to be totally crippled!
Still mighty quiet here, hope some of my SF's awaken soon and post a note or two. Hope ALL are well and look forward to reading from you.
Blessings of Healing, Loving, LIGHT.
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Love,
STeVeTwIsTeDlIgHtMaNiAc
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"Peace for All"

Abbreviated Hindu Prayer for Peace

Oh God, Lead us from the unreal to the real.

Oh God, lead us from darkness into light.

Oh God, lead us from death to immortality.

Shanti, Shanti, Shanti unto all. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif



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[DaBee]

Hello there ye' olde Maniac of Twisted Light! Hmmm...MTL, or could that be MeTaL man? Or could that be MenTaL man? How about StEvE? I remember the day that you went back to work. We were all so concerned that you were just gonna get worse because the company sure didn't seem concerned with your health, only your productivity. Then, Spirit led you to not subject yourself to this painful negativity and you closed the door on it. THEN, wahlah(? sp), another door opened and you went through to your new/old job. Synchronicity? Miracle? Right place at the right time? Whatever happened....what a wonderful blessing http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif So glad that you are provided with physical therapy also.

And hello to everyone else checking things out. It's another beautiful day in the Ozarks. My plans for today are to check out some DVDs at the Eureka Library. It's amazing the assortment and quantity that they have. I've found that the Berryville Library offers more for the little ones, but not a whole lot for adults. Sooo, I can just go to both!
Wasn't that nice of Marsha to name everyone of the artist's displayed work in her new shop? It's a great looking, well put together shop that changes every time I go in....new stuff all the time.
Well, also going to the B'ville Farmer's Market and maybe catch a garage sale or 2. Gotta find out (again) when the Yards and Yards of Yard Sales happens in Eureka.
1st things 1st, gotta go say good morning to my garden. It has been so abundant thanks to all of this rain. Can you imagine, snow peas in August? Plus a whole bunch more. Yummmy good wholesome fresh eatin' right now fer sure.
love and light and gotta go go go
deb-o-sunshine

[DaBee]

Hi Another Texan....you there?
I've got that spell ready. Now you won't have to look anything else up in the dictionary. Remember though, it's only about spelling, so you might want to continue to keep that Thesaurus close at hand. Know that I sure have to.

Hey Lany ((((((Lany)))))
Can you hear me (((((Lany)))))?
Oh my, all I hear is that darned (((((echo))))) in here.
I'll just leave this little note in case you show up after I leave. Been missin' ya.

love and light and the heartbreak of psoriasis
deb-o-corticosteroidNOT

[Another Texan]

Evening ya'll. Well I had started writing about our day and realized it sounded fairly lame and boring so I back-spaced it all out. But it was an enjoyable and much needed day off.

Da-bee Did you know I actually keep a dictionary next to the 'puter, I don't always use it but I feel more secure with it close at hand. I have snowpea seeds but kept thinking I needed to wait to plant for a fall crop, probably waited too long now.

Lany & Patt Sorry to hear ya'll can't make the RHPS movie party on that date. We missed the last one, the forecast for snow scared us off. Seems a long time since I've seen ya'll, maybe I'll run into ya'll sometime hopefully not with my car which I just got paid off, yippee, don't owe money on anything now.

Steve Good to hear things are going well for you. A young man was just hired at one of my jobs, evidently he had been severely injured in a car wreck a few years back and has now recovered enough to work. He's so glad to finally be doing something productive with his time again. I know I feel better when I'm working, especially working at something that involves physical labor.
Buenos Noches
Mary, the dictionary checking, Rocky fan, worker bee

[DaBee]

Hey, MaryBee, good to hear from you. You too, LanyBee. Guess that'd make me be DebBee. I'll settle for GrandmaBee. Yep, lots of quality time with the SweetieBees. They come hang out with me and we paint rocks and sticks and walk in the creek beds and sometimes find a swimmin' hole. That water is still too cold for me, so I just set it out and watch them splash. Gehrett gets a big kick out of just throwing rocks in the water. I showed them how to skip stones a couple days ago. They did pretty darned good for tiny people. Been too hot for the past couple of afternoons, so we'll just kick back and watch a dvd. Our main pasttime is eating and we go through lots of snacks in a day. More like grazing. Try to keep it on the healthy side though.
The rheumy doc took me off of the methotrexate cause I'm getting toxic. Think I'm starting to feel the effect of not having anything to control the RA, so need to slow down. Actually, don't think I have a choice. Staying in the a/c and erockticating feels pretty good to do these days. Was so spoiled from the cool weather that now I can barely take a 90 degree day! Shameful!!!
OK, I've talked about myself enough now. Sure would like to find out how everyones doing and what 'cha been up to.
love and light and beads of sweat
deb-o-tropicalislandparadisevisitorwannabe

[Another Texan]

Buenas dias amigos, the weather forecasters are saying cooler drier air on the way, with a chance of rain today, so it looks to be a good day. Guess that's all I have to say.
Maryray

[DaBee]

Hi Lany howdy doody toody yoody. Was wondering, have you read any good books lately?

Hey, Mary, didn't you say before that you were from Ft. Worth? Still have relatives there? Go back often? Even though I grew up in Irving, none of the family are left there. Do have a few in Canton, though. I don't miss Texas, do you?
I could tell when I was out this morning in the garden that something was gently blowing in. So glad to hear that some cooler temps may be heading our way. This afternoon when my grandson woke from him nap, he had a little accident that soaked through the bedspread, blanket, 2 sheets, mattress cover and into the mattress. All of the linens are on the clothesline now and it looks like they might just be getting another soaking.
Isn't this the Y & Y of Yardsales this weekend? Is it just Saturday?
My DIL and I have been tiling the kitchen backsplash all day today and boy, oh boy, this is one hurtin' from head to toe momma. It looked so simple in the how-to-books. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif Think it's the tile cutting that really takes the cake. My hands and wrists are not being forgiving, either. But then again, it's lookin' so purdy that it's prob'ly all worth it. That's just how life goes sometimes...need to use up an extra spoon or 2 to get the job done. Then it's done! Gotta go get those tile adhesive spreader things cleaned up. They've got white globs of gook all over them.
Hello to all that stop in from time to time. You can be bashful if ya' wanna, but why?
love and light
deb-o-mmmmmmmthesmellofsheetshungoutontheline

[DaBee]

Rudyard Kipling
L'Envoi

When Earth's last picture is painted and the tubes are twisted and dried,
When the oldest colours have faded, and the youngest critic has died,
We shall rest, and, faith, we shall need it -- lie down for an aeon or two,
Till the Master of All Good Workmen shall put us to work anew!

And those that were good shall be happy: they shall sit in a golden chair;
They shall splash at a ten-league canvas with brushes of comets' hair;
They shall find real saints to draw from -- Magdalene, Peter, and Paul;
They shall work for an age at a sitting and never be tired at all!

And only the Master shall praise us, and only the Master shall blame;
And no one shall work for money, and no one shall work for fame,
But each for the joy of the working, and each, in his separate star,
Shall draw the Thing as he sees It for the God of Things as They Are!

[mtnviewsteve]

Spirit Friends,
Whoever guessed our "surprise destination" was Eureka, wins. Not really much guess- work, as everyone that knows us, knows we love Eureka, and had we landed there instead of Mountain View, we'd probably be residents. Would hate to "get used" to everything and it still not be a thrill, like it is for us now!
We had dinner at "Shoney's" Friday night and got into Eureka about 9:00 p.m. After we got checked in and got the cruiser unloaded we drove around town marking our 1st choices for the yard sales on Saturday. Stopped by "Hart's and got "new" prayer candle as that has become "one" of our rituals. We went to Mickey "D's" for a milk shake and sundae before heading back to motel for bed.
I got up early sat. morn., took a long hot bath, made fresh pot of coffee and got "Lethal" up at 6:00 a.m. We got "on the road" about 1/4 to 7, and started at White street and eventually worked our circles to Passion play road and back to Dairy Hollow. We/she found lots of bargains and ended up at Doggie Thrift about 3 times. Visited brother "Roscoe" at his coffee shop, off and on, up until 2:00 p.m. when he closed. I was getting afraid we'd have to ship our clothes and suitcases home if we/she stopped at one more yard sale.
We stopped and visited a couple hours with Pat and Dale, and ended up going back out to the yard sales to find her a new kitchen chair, which Lethal found in about 10 min. Pat was tickled to death and gave us a big, glass, gazing ball for our efforts. We had lunch at "Myrtie Mae's" and supper at "Local Flavor", and walked about town 'til about dark. Came back to motel, watched some TV, and turned in for the night.
Sunday morning found me up at 8, bathed, made coffee, and got Lethal up at 9. While she was getting ready went to health food store for vitamins, and stopped "back by Roscoe's" for another cup! We finally got away from Eureka about noon, after driving around and stopping at the market downtown.
Oh, almost forgot, saw some of DebKay's beautiful "Erockiata" at "Eureka Thyme". Her art is very good and has impressive design and a creative, beautiful look.
Sorry so long, I have missed "sharing the LIGHT" with my Spirit Friends, and it's so good to be HOME. Hope you ALL are well and Happy. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif
Blessings of Healing LIGHT to ALL!
STeVeTwIsTeDlIgHtMaNiAc
"Holding you in your highest; honoring you where you are;
and inspiring you to go beyond!"

p.s. Met Carrie & Eric at the downtown market. They are very nice, and her herbal products are very "kewl". Met Marcia at "Eureka Thyme" she is a lovely lady, and showed us Deb's fantasticArt.

[DaBee]

Golly gee, sTevEeE, see me blushing up there? Thanks for the inspirational words. Sure wish I'd known that you and Letha were coming to town; would love to have met you in the 3D (or is it 4D?)(hey, I'm so far behind times that maybe now it's 5D!). I was wondering around town at the same time with my big kids and little kids. We sure had a fun time and got lots of cool stuff for not a lot of quarters.
Thanks to all that participated.
love and light and love this lovely county!
deb-o-hiphiphoorah

[mtnviewsteve]

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Spirit Friends, Sisters of LIGHT,
Star Travelers arise, a journey of sound & LIGHT awaits us. Raise your eyes towards the origins of the mist and think beyond, into the darkness, the void, the unending expansion of time. Rise, think not of the how or the where, lift yourself, as possibilities exist past any expectations or cognizance. Reach beyond into the glimmering that awaits US. THE LIGHT AWAITS YOU ~~~~~~~~~~~~and you--
Await the LIGHT.


TODAY'S POSITIVE VISUALIZATION:

I take a slow and even breath and recognize the incredible
power I have within me; the power of choice. I imagine
myself easily and joyfully choosing those thoughts,
words, and deeds that create the reality I desire. In
my mind's eye I see that reality manifesting in my life.
I take a moment to experience my life, as I want it to
be. I affirm that I can and will choose freedom. I
combine these images with the feelings of joy and let
them go, knowing that they will create the good things
I am visualizing and thinking.


BRoThErSTeVeTwIsTeDlIgHtMaNiAc
"Holding you in your highest; honoring you where you are;
and inspiring you to go beyond!"

[Another Texan]

How's everybody doing? Getting a chance to enjoy the wonderful weather I hope.

Marsha- my daughter and I stopped by Eureka Thyme the other day. I started in a corner and worked my way around to make sure I didn't miss anything. I like your work DaBee and that of the other talented folks. After we got outside I asked Miranda what she thought...she wished she could buy everthing. So we'll be back.

DaBee- a while back you described your day spent w/grankids at the creek. As I read it I was taken back to my childhood and time spent with my Granny. We'd go down to the creek and explore, catch those little bitty frogs, wade and just relax. I'm sure your grankids will keep fond memories too.

Patt- were you in Sunfest recently? It's been so long since I met you that I'm not sure I recognize you anymore. Hope the breast cancer gathering provides fellowship for those that attend. My best friend's mom has been a survivor for several years now and I'm sure her positive attitude has been a big factor.

Lany- when your days become days again and your nights become nights again maybe we can visit, in person, with food and drinks.

Steve- thank you for sharing the inspiring words.

Granddad, Granny, Grandma, Grandpa, Aunt Mary, Aunt Lavelle, Uncle Jim, Daddy, Mother- I love you and miss you all. Miranda is a great kid, wish ya'll could have met her.

[mtnviewsteve]

Happy Sunday, Spirit Friends, http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif
Have neglected my friends in "GJ" but hope all are well and enjoying this cool, beautiful Sunday.
Had an impromptu visit to Eureka, last weekend and got to visit with "Carrie & Aaron" last weekend at the Sunday Market. Her "Old World Apothecary" booth was fantastic. We came in for the yard sales, and scored pretty good. Thought we might have to ship our clothes back to Mtn. View if we/she bought much more!
Hope to hear from you soon.Blessings to ALL.
***PEACE***LOVE**TWISTED-HEALING-LIGHT***
BRoThErSTeVeTwIsTeDlIgHtMaNiAc
"Holding you in your highest; honoring you where you are; http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif
and inspiring you to go beyond!

"GOOD STARTS"

There is but one life, and that life is the life of the One Great Spirit, present in all things and all people. not only is Spirit present in all
beings, it is present in its fullness. This means that wherever I am, and whatever the conditions of my life at the present, I am full-filled with
Spirit. There's nothing outside of myself that I really need; whatever I need is to be found within. I stop looking for fulfillment from outside
sources, and seek it in the one place it is to be found: in my own heart and soul.

Every day, I open my consciousness to a more powerful, more joyous, and more immediate experience of the good that Life offers. By doing the work within me first, the outside stuff takes care of itself. I am ready to let go of the old way of experiencing my life, and open to the new with joy and with gratitude. I see the One Spirit in all beings, and for this profound vision, I give thanks. And so it is.




[This message has been edited by mtnviewsteve (edited 08-16-2004).]

[DaBee]

Gosh Steve, that was Sunday and now it's Thursday. Things are gettin' slow out in these here hollers. Actually, went to the doc in Little Rock on Monday, then camped out on the Buffalo Tuesday night. We'd been promising g'daughter a camping trip all summer and barely came in under the wire. School started today.
Hope you're feeling well, Steve. How did the last doc visit go? Are you still being taken to LR for the injury?
Sure has been quiet around here, y'all. Maybe everybody is busy outdoors with the weather being so great. Know that I spend as much time out and in the garden or even just out on the deck as I can. Early mornings and late afternoons are great for erockticating; cool breezes and good light. The only thing bugging me is great big ol' flies. If I remember to coat all exposed areas with a few drops of a pennyroyal/mineral oil combo, they stay away....everything stays away http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif
love and light to everyone, even those hanging out in the shadows.........and as one of the audibles on Messenger says..."I know you're there; I can seeee you".
deb-o-emoticon

[Jeannie Jones]

Ha ha ha, hee, hee, hee,
Laughter's good for you and me,
Lots of laughs, every day,
Helps to keep the pain at bay. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

While web-surfing, I stumbled upon this one about the value of laughter in healing. I'm only posting parts of it, but have included a link to the website below.

Toni Cook introduces "Laughter Clubs":

"When was the last time you laughed spontaneously, just for the joy of being happy? Laughter has a scientifically-proven beneficial effect on the body, mind and spirit. Research shows that as children we laugh up to 400 times per day, while the average adult laughs a meagre 15 times, thus between childhood and adulthood we lose 385 laughs every day! Stress and tension have become the daily norm instead of happiness and inner peace, while regularly experiencing joy seems unimaginable for the vast majority.

"Various therapeutic ideas have emerged during the past thirty years to redress this imbalance. Clown therapy to relieve the stress of hospitalisation is now an accepted and growing aid to treatment, especially with children. Dr Robert Holden, founder of “The Happiness Project”, created and ran the first NHS Laughter Clinic, using positive thinking, meditative techniques and games to stimulate recovery in patients suffering from a range of physical and mental complaints. More recently, Dr Madan Kataria, a Bombay GP, started Laughter Club International which now has over 2,000 clubs worldwide, where people do “Laughter Yoga” together and laugh “for no reason”...

"The benefits of laughing are not exclusively based on the release of “happy chemicals” – endorphins - from the brain, but also on the massage effect on internal organs and the increased intake of oxygen and expulsion of carbon dioxide provoked by really hearty laughter. Research has shown that the release of endorphins is not dependent on how humorous a person finds something but is actually stimulated by the physical movement of the mouth and eyes during laughter. This means that if you “fake it”, i.e. you simulate laughter on your face, your brain will release the chemical regardless of how you feel at the emotional level. This has important implications for people suffering from depression, stress and pain, who usually don’t feel much like laughing spontaneously. Other research has demonstrated that throat mucus antibodies increased after a 20-minute laughter session and that Natural Killer Cells (those that fight cancer, for example) become more potent after laughing..."

Here's her website:

http://www.laughteryoga.org/

Wishing y'all more laughter, http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Jeannie

[DaBee]

God, grant me the laughter
to see the past with perspective,
to face the future with hope,
and to celebrate today...
without taking myself too seriously.

Thanks, Jeannie, this was some good info. Copied the above prayer from one of the links about Dr. Humor. He says that 15% of the U.S. population are "humor impaired" and another 15% "at risk", and that's no laughing matter. I enjoyed checking it out.
Hope you're having a humorous day; that's you, Jeannie, and all of you other hopefully not humor impaired folks. By the way, heard any good jokes lately?

[Jeannie Jones]

Deb, dear heart,

How did it go in L.R.? Puh-leeze don't pull the splint off prematurely, hokay? You're so active and just on-the-go and working constantly, when you're up to it, but please take a little down time when you need it. Be sweet to yourself, sweetie, and let the kids help you. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif (IMHO)

Love you so much, sweetie (and the other GJ'ers, too),

Jeannie

P.S. Love the prayer in your post above.

[DaBee]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jeannie Jones:
[B]Deb, dear heart,
How did it go in L.R.? Puh-leeze don't pull the splint off prematurely, hokay? You're so active and just on-the-go and working constantly, when you're up to it, but please take a little down time when you need it. Be sweet to yourself, sweetie, and let the kids help you. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif (IMHO)
Love you so much, sweetie (and the other GJ'ers, too),Jeannie
P.S. Love the prayer in your post above.
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Hi there Jeannie Jeannie bo beanie.....love you too, girley girl.
Weeeelllll, I put off the surgery because I need at least one decent hand with some strength. Basically, felt that the hand that had surgery needed more time to mend. Also, there's now some numbness in a couple of fingers that wasn't there before. The hand doc said it was a good decision, give it a couple more months. Also, had a pulmonary function test, which I aced even though I didn't study one lick! http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif
So ya, it all went just fine.
Get this....my ex from Tex will be here this coming Saturday. Here to visit our son and family. We've been divorced for 15 years and I've still never discussed what happened to our 21 year marriage. Seems I forgot why I left, .....well, not really.....it just doesn't seem so important anymore. Feel that I have amends to make, but I'm not gonna overdo it either. I don't live in the past and haven't for quite a while, so will just enjoy each and everyday with he and the grandkids and son & dil. Everythings ok and it's amazing how all of life's pieces of puzzle just kinda fall in place at the right time, as long as I remember that I'm not in control here.
OK, missy, you've evaded me about half a dozen times about how you are feeling. Spit it out http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/tongue.gif Also, how is Nafalia? Went down Main St. yesterday and a new store is going into her old shop space. Tried to remember the name, but am not. Something like I Saw the Light or Got My Eye On You or mmmmmmmmm, dunno. Maybe someone reading this goes down Main St. more than I do (it had been quite a while) and knows what it is called and what it is.
Gotta go make hay while the sun shines!
love and light and everything bright
deb-o-sunflowersandokrablossoms

[Jeannie Jones]

Well, hello, Ms. Deb,

Prepared this long post to you on Friday, and lost it! Did everything I could to get it back again, but it just didn't happen. It was in the wee hours of the morning, so I didn't recreate it, 'cause I was just too "pooped".

Well, I'm soooooooo glad you don't have pleurisy. You have enough pain with what you already have. Was your pulmonary function test the sphygnomenometer, or some new test?

Wow! Visit from ex-husband. I know you're a different person than you were then. Is he? Don't want to be nosy, just can't help but be curious.

Love you, sweet one,

Jeannie

[DaBee]

Originally posted by Jeannie Jones:
Well, I'm soooooooo glad you don't have pleurisy. You have enough pain with what you already have. Was your pulmonary function test the sphygnomenometer, or some new test?
Wow! Visit from ex-husband. I know you're a different person than you were then. Is he? Don't want to be nosy, just can't help but be curious.
Love you, sweet one,
Jeannie[/B]

Whew! I've been kinda preoccupied for the last few days.......lotsa family stuff, but I'ma lovin' it!
The test was done with a spirometer in a glass chamber...high tech stuff. Been feeling pretty good here lately, but sure feel it when I overdo. And I do...overdo, boy, do I!! http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif
Yep, changed a bit over the years. Don't think the ex has much though, even with me trying as hard as I could to get him to. Silly me, wonder if I'll ever learn?!?! Actually, think I'm starting to get the hint (as my buddy upstairs raps on the noggin' saying, "hello, anything in there?)
Went to the outdoor cinema Sunday night in Eureka and it was so much fun. Just good family kinda stuff and a good flick to boot.
Well, hope everybody out there is feeling okedoke and your lights are shining bright and maybe a little twisted, like bro sTeVe
love and light
deb-o-rah

[Jeannie Jones]

Hi, sweetie pie,

There's an outdoor theater in Eureka? I had no idea. Boy, I sure used to love them. After I got my first car, at the age of 30 (lived in Chicago, San Francisco, Chicago--good public transportation) without having it even checked out by a mechanic, I'd take off on every long weekend we'd have, with no destination in mind, just navigating from my heart.

One such long weekend, I ended up at Niagara Falls. It was late, and coming in just outside of there, I saw a motel and thought I ought to just book a room first, then head on out and see what I could see of the Falls.

EXCEPT, as I approached the motel, I noticed a drive-in movie. So I booked my room, then went to the drive-in instead of the Falls!

The next day, I buzzed by the Falls on my way to the Canadian route back to Chicago. Perhaps a strange trip, but sure saw some gorgeous scenery, and I was happy.

ANYWAY, I'm sure your weekend was intense and interesting. Please, please, try to make yourself slow down just a little, my dear. Okay? I really mean it, now, I don't want to have to get tough with you! http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif

As I read it afresh, I don't think the test I mentioned has anything to do with breath. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif But so glad your lungs are in good shape.

Turns out I may need another biopsy on the spot on my right cheek. Sigh.

Say, I'm just very sad to hear that Christina Moon is bedridden, with 24-hr. care. My prayers go out for her, holding her in Love and Light, wrapping her in a soft energy cloud of Love and comfort. I pray that it is within her life plan to recover, and am sorry I didn't get a chance to meet her, way back when we were trying to plan a get-together.

Much love to you, dear heart,

Jeannie

[DaBee]

Originally posted by Jeannie Jones:
Hi, sweetie pie,There's an outdoor theater in Eureka? I had no idea. Boy, I sure used to love them. After I got my first car, at the age of 30 (lived in Chicago, San Francisco, Chicago--good public transportation) without having it even checked out by a mechanic, I'd take off on every long weekend we'd have, with no destination in mind, just navigating from my heart.One such long weekend, I ended up at Niagara Falls. It was late, and coming in just outside of there, I saw a motel and thought I ought to just book a room first, then head on out and see what I could see of the Falls.EXCEPT, as I approached the motel, I noticed a drive-in movie. So I booked my room, then went to the drive-in instead of the Falls!The next day, I buzzed by the Falls on my way to the Canadian route back to Chicago. Perhaps a strange trip, but sure saw some gorgeous scenery, and I was happy.ANYWAY, I'm sure your weekend was intense and interesting. Please, please, try to make yourself slow down just a little, my dear. Okay? I really mean it, now, I don't want to have to get tough with you! http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif
As I read it afresh, I don't think the test I mentioned has anything to do with breath. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif But so glad your lungs are in good shape.Turns out I may need another biopsy on the spot on my right cheek. Sigh.Say, I'm just very sad to hear that Christina Moon is bedridden, with 24-hr. care. My prayers go out for her, holding her in Love and Light, wrapping her in a soft energy cloud of Love and comfort. I pray that it is within her life plan to recover, and am sorry I didn't get a chance to meet her, way back when we were trying to plan a get-together.Much love to you, dear heart,Jeannie

Hi Y'all and Jeannie too.....long time no write here, huh? Losing my touch. Actually, been spending lotsalotsa time with the fam and guest last week. + the weather is soooooo grrrreat, can't stay indoors. Back to L.R. tomorrow, then maybe things will quiet down for a bit.
Yes, so sad to hear about Christina. Here's a candle for you Christina. Just a little light that may flicker a spark for you and your loved ones. May you find ease.
Please let me know about the spot on your cheek, JJ. Did something change after the last biopsy?
The theatre in Eureka is on Main Street, across from where Michael's Pub used to be. They project the film on a cool screen painted on the side of the building where the bridge crosses from Spring Street. People bring lawn chairs and it's a fun, community gathering each Sunday evening. Season is about to end, though.
Sounds like you've had so much fun all of your life, Jeannie. Got any more adventures planned? Or just go get lost and find your way out on the other coast? Too cool.
Found something today that I wanted to share:

Doorways of Support and Inspiration:
Inhabiting Your Solitude John O'Donohue
There is a lantern in the soul, which makes your solitude luminous. Solitude need not remain lonely. It can awaken to its luminous warmth. The soul redeems and transfigures everything because the soul is the divine space. When you inhabit your solitude fully and experience its outer extremes of isolation and abandonment, you will find that at its heart there is neither loneliness nor emptiness but intimacy and shelter. In your solitude you are frequently nearer to the heart of belonging and kinship than you are in your social life or public world. At this level, memory is the great friend of solitude. The harvest of memory opens when solitude is ripe.. ..

Your persona, beliefs, and role are in reality a technique or strategy for getting through the daily routine. When you are on your own, or when you wake in the middle of the night, the real knowing within you can surface. You come to feel the secret equilibrium of your soul. When you travel the inner distance and reach the divine, the outer distance vanishes.
Ironically, your trust in your inner belonging radically alters your outer belonging. Unless you find belonging in your solitude, your external longing will remain needy and driven.
There is a wonderful welcome within. Meister Eckhart illuminates this point. He says that there is a place in the soul that neither space nor time nor flesh can touch. This is the eternal place within us. It would be a lovely gift to yourself to go there often-to be nourished, strengthened, and renewed. The deepest things that you need are not elsewhere. They are here and now in that circle of your own soul. Real friendship and holiness enable a person to frequently visit the hearth of his solitude...

Catch you on the other side of Little Rock!
love and light and everything yellow
deb-o-mellow

[Marsha Havens]

Good Books -- I've recently joined a group where we read and talk about it and this month we're re-reading Tom Robbins' Jitterbug Perfume. It's been around 20 years since I've read it, but remember how much I liked it. It's always fun to see if we like the same things we did in our past lives! Our last read was Plain and Simple, the story of a woman who goes to live with the Amish. It was good, particularly for people who do too much and need to chill out! Luckily, I'm more a'kin to a quote on my calendar: "How beautiful it is to do nothing, and then rest afterward."And it showed a beautiful orange kitten laid back relaxing in a chaise lounge lawn chair. Too cute!

I just returned from Picasso at the Lapin Agile at The Auditorium, so I'm all wound up! It was GREAT!

[DaBee]

Hi Marsha....always happy to see your name here, knowing that you have shared insights and affirmations.
Cool about the reading club. Is it the one sponsored by the library?
On the other thread you mentioned the 4 Agreements. This is my personal fav that I always go back to ... have had like 20 refresher courses so far. Ruiz' Mastery of Love has had quite a few rereads as well. Those 2 and Jonathan Livingston Seagull will be in my heart forever. Thank you for reminding me about 4 again; time to bring it up to current day living.
See you on the Eureka side soon!
deb-o-rah

[DaBee]

home me the way to go show
i'm bed and i want to go to tired
had a little hour about a drink ago
and it head right to my went
wherever i may preambulate
on land
or sea
or atmospheric vapor
you can always hear me humming this melody
show me the way to go home

anybody ever heard that one before?

my mom taught it to me when i was young and in the family tradition of qwirkness, have taught my granddaughter (6 y.o.) also. she loves it and can sing it forewards and backwards

her parents just look at me with the one eyebrow up higher than the other when grandmabee and the grandbabes start humming our melodies.

ain't life grand?

love and light
deb-o-preambulator

[Becky Davis]

I've always heard it...show me the way to go home, I'm tired and I wanna go to bed. I had a little drink bout an hour ago and it went straight to my head. Wherever I may roam, on land or sea or foam, you'll always hear me singing this song. Show me the way to go home.

My mom used to sing it alot. I did too to my kids. And Barbara Allen. And Two Little Orphans and The Blacksheep. Anybody remember the words to those songs? I can't remember them all.

[DaBee]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Becky Davis:
[B]I've always heard it...show me the way to go home, I'm tired and I wanna go to bed. I had a little drink bout an hour ago and it went straight to my head. Wherever I may roam, on land or sea or foam, you'll always hear me singing this song. Show me the way to go home.

Right, Becky, that's the 1st stanza....I just wrote out the 2nd. Must have been a 40's thing. Someone once told me that it was a song in a movie; something about singing it in a boat whilst fishing. I never happened to see it.
Hope you're doing well and your son is feeling much better. Did the docs ever find out what the problem was? Did he go to the game in Fayetteville?
Wrote to you in the topic about praying for your son, but it was a few days ago so don't know if you saw it or not. Still have your family in my light focus.
Have a great week whether you want to or not. (joke)
love and light
deb-o-jokester

[Another Texan]

In the first 'Jaws' movie the main characters were drinking on the shark hunting boat and sang part of that song but I don't think that was the movie you were talking about.

[DaBee]

Originally posted by Another Texan:
In the first 'Jaws' movie the main characters were drinking on the shark hunting boat and sang part of that song but I don't think that was the movie you were talking about.

Actually, it might have been. I remember seeing the 1st Jaws at a drive-in and kept my eyes closed and fingers in my ears through most of it. Guess I haven't changed much because I'd do the same thing if I saw it now. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/eek.gif

[Jeannie Jones]

Hi, Deb and all,

Never heard your "qwirky" version, "Home me the way to go show", but sure know the song. Don't know the other 2 that Becky mentioned. Deb, is that where you got your love of word-play? From your Mom? You're soooo good at it!

Re: NAFALIA

She just had non-elective double breast reduction surgery this morning. Her spine is so fragile that it was needed. She's doing well, but I'd like to ask for prayers for her quick healing, with a minimum of pain.

Thanks, blessings & love to all,

Jeannie

[DaBee]

((((((((((((((((NAFALIA))))))))))))))))))))
Love and light and everything bright and balanced and soothing and filled with awareness of contrasting environments.
You are loved, Nafalia, my gentle soul friend. Each moment shall be filled with wonderment and awe at the miraculous healing abilities that your being remembers and holds up for this very moment.
deborah

[Jeannie Jones]

Thank you, from Nafalia:

Deborah,

Thank you so very much for being the lady that you are. Your kindness and thoughtfulness can, at times, be overwhelming. I just wanted to take a moment to give a short reply, to tell you how much I appreciate your being in this dimension.

You can well imagine that I'm very tired. This has been quite a day, so I'm going to make this short, and wish to you starlight and moonbeams, and all the beauty and abundance the Universe has to offer.

As above, so below,

Nafalia

[This message has been edited by Jeannie Jones (edited 09-15-2004).]

[DaBee]

Hello there Jeannie and Nafalia
Just realized that I didn't respond to your last note. Now that it has been 2 weeks since your surgery, how ya' doin'? Hope you're past the heavy duty pain part.
Now this is a question for you 2 and everyone else out there that is peeking in. Well, it's pretty obvious that there is much less activity on the Gratitude Journal. Maybe it's because those that once posted here find the general forum more exciting. I am feeling gratitude for the freedom to come here and express my feelings about something. I do read the Open Forum and sometimes make a comment, but sure do try to stay away from controversy and politics. It's very hard for me to read the mud slinging going back and forth between people. It just seems that it would be difficult to face the people in real life as you passed them on the street or even in Harts, after having lambasted each other in front of many people. Soooo...my question is....the people that refrain from jumping into or even starting political threads, are they really just sticking their heads in the sand? Could it be that they just naturally avoid confrontation? Do you feel, if you are one of these "kind of people" that you are just a weenie and maybe don't even want others to know which side of the fence you are on at the moment? Also, can anyone just comment on why so many people enjoy these confrontations?
Am also trying to figure out myself why I go the way of the weenie in a lot of cases.
love and light
deb-o-nonpartisanpsychonondebater

[Another Texan]

for deb-o-nonpartisanpsychonondebater,
I can't answer for anyone other than myself, I stopped posting here because I felt I was intruding.

I post some articles in open forum just to inform, other times I post knowing that it will probably have the same effect as swatting a hornet's nest. I can't tell you how many posts I've deleted prior to hitting the Submit Reply box.

I don't communicate well in person and really hate confrontation but I've come to a point in my life where I can't remain silent. The open forum provides an outlet.

I don't have years of history with folks here, heck when we moved up last year we didn't know anyone, no family, no friends.
But through the local boards I've had the opportunity to get acquainted with a few folks, hopefully some freindships will come about.

Well gotta go fix lunch and build a maze, nice talking at ya.
Marymaryquitecontrary

[MotherMoon12]

I believe several of us were treated as intruders over here. The reason I rarely get into arguements and political discussions is because I usually don't have the time or energy and don't choose to waste it on people who have already made up their minds. I really enjoyed the spiritual discussions that took place at first over here. I assume they took that to btg in secret. The main reason I haven't posted much lately, is because I am pretty busy. Misty is on bed rest and I am looking after the other 5 children. The twins will be delivered Friday, and then things will be REALLY busy around here. I still love y'all, and enjoy reading. Hang in there.

[DaBee]

Originally posted by Another Texan:
I don't communicate well in person and really hate confrontation but I've come to a point in my life where I can't remain silent. The open forum provides an outlet.
I don't have years of history with folks here, heck when we moved up last year we didn't know anyone, no family, no friends.
But through the local boards I've had the opportunity to get acquainted with a few folks, hopefully some freindships will come about.Well gotta go fix lunch and build a maze, nice talking at ya.
Marymaryquitecontrary[/B]
Thanks for responding, Mary. Seems that this forum is one way to get to know people somewhat. I haven't made it to any of the Geeksters get togethers, but it seems that
there would be a comraderie already formed because of this communication. I always enjoy reading your comments. So tell me about your maze. Is it a labyrinth?

[DaBee]

Originally posted by MotherMoon12:
I believe several of us were treated as intruders over here. The reason I rarely get into arguements and political discussions is because I usually don't have the time or energy and don't choose to waste it on people who have already made up their minds. I really enjoyed the spiritual discussions that took place at first over here. I assume they took that to btg in secret. The main reason I haven't posted much lately, is because I am pretty busy. Misty is on bed rest and I am looking after the other 5 children. The twins will be delivered Friday, and then things will be REALLY busy around here. I still love y'all, and enjoy reading. Hang in there.
Wow, you sure ARE busy. It takes a lot of energy looking after my 2 grandchildren; really can't imagine 5 and soon that will be 7. What are their ages?
Glad you pop in sometimes. Please feel free to write anything you want...I sure do.
Hope everything goes smoothly on Friday.

[Another Texan]

MotherMoon12 - how fortunate Misty and the kids are to have you to care for them. Hope all goes well Friday.

[Another Texan]

DaBee - No, nothing as elaborate as that. Just a few walls for folks to walk around in, part of the haunted house in the basement of Eureka Kids. We are using materials recycled from the old skate park. Used plywood, masonite, two x fours, two x sixes and even screws are being reused, I do draw the line at trying to straighten and reuse nails though. We've still got a lot to do and opening night is scheduled for Friday the 8th.
BTW haunted house acting can be very theraputic, there aren't too many public places where one can scream at the top of their lungs and not be veiwed as in need of a serious sedative.
Scary Mary

[Another Texan]

DaBee - I can't end the evening without a comment on your comment about my comments, glad you enjoy them.
Weary Mary

[MotherMoon12]

Well, we have Amy's two, Gavin age almost nine, and Canyon just turned six, four days a week. Misty's boys are Ashton almost seven and Hawthorne five and Banyan almost eighteen months. Misty teaches the four older kids. They are in ARVS, the Arkansas Virtual School so we have them here at home all day. Being with children is all I have ever done and all I ever wanted to do. I worked in daycare for many years and have done lots of volunteer work with kids. Chris has been a teacher for over thirty years and in Texas we always had lots of students at our house. My life is wonderful. I would'nt change it for anything. The twin girls will be the icing on the cake.

[DaBee]

You rock, GrandmaMotherMoon!

[Becky Davis]

Yes she does and I have seen her with those younguns. She is amazing with them.

[Jeannie Jones]

Originally posted by DaBee:
Hello there Jeannie and Nafalia
Just realized that I didn't respond to your last note. Now that it has been 2 weeks since your surgery, how ya' doin'? Hope you're past the heavy duty pain part...

Well, deb-o-psychonondebater (did I remember the whole thing, or did I leave out part of it? Hmmmm...the "psycho" part doesn't sound right!!!),

ANYway, Ms. Nafalia just had her stitches out today, and is doing quite well. The whole thing was a LOT less painful than she was prepared for.

Okay, Deb, you ask and ask, and I'm so slippery at avoiding an answer, but tonight I will admit that I've been in a depression of late. I finally found a primary care physician, (been working with neuro doc in Branson, but wanted a PCP in Rogers) and long story short, he gave me a month's worth of samples of Wellbutrin. I just picked them up this afternoon. Took the first one about 3 hrs. ago. So I can at least see how they work with my other meds. It's a dopamine drug. That's what he feels I lack, in my present state of out-of-whack body chemistry.

Hello to the other gals, so wonderful that you're surrounded by children. Sorry if I have made you feel bummed out in the past. It was never my intention.

Love to all,

Jeannie

[DaBee]

Originally posted by Jeannie Jones:
Well, deb-o-psychonondebater (did I remember the whole thing, or did I leave out part of it? Hmmmm...the "psycho" part doesn't sound right!!!),ANYway, Ms. Nafalia just had her stitches out today, and is doing quite well. The whole thing was a LOT less painful than she was prepared for.Okay, Deb, you ask and ask, and I'm so slippery at avoiding an answer, but tonight I will admit that I've been in a depression of late. I finally found a primary care physician, (been working with neuro doc in Branson, but wanted a PCP in Rogers) and long story short, he gave me a month's worth of samples of Wellbutrin. I just picked them up this afternoon. Took the first one about 3 hrs. ago. So I can at least see how they work with my other meds. It's a dopamine drug. That's what he feels I lack, in my present state of out-of-whack body chemistry.
Hello to the other gals, so wonderful that you're surrounded by children. Sorry if I have made you feel bummed out in the past. It was never my intention.Love to all,Jeannie

The psyco part is probably applicable at different times of the day in my life. My ex-husband would probably argue that it is more like 99% of the day, but what does he know?
So glad that your recovery is moving along nicely, Naffy. OK, I won't call you that if you won't call me Debbie....it is kinda cute though. Rhymes with taffy which makes me laffy at the sassy lassie with the jazzy tin lizzy, whos hair is never frizzy....ok, I'll stop. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif whoooo, I was on a roll that was fun while it lasted.
Hey Jeannie, funny you should mention Wellbutrin. After smoking for 31 years, I quit on 6/2/2002, just prior to having a hysterectomy due to cervical cancer. Knew that some machine would be breathing for me during the surgery so I wanted my lungs to have a fighting chance during and after.
Welllllll, about a month ago I picked them up again and it tasted sooooo good. I've been told that the 1st one would taste like iguana doodoo, but those people LIED to me....it was great. So great that I wanted to go have sex so that I could have one of those cigarette after sex moments. I have fond memories of those times. Woops, drifted away for a moment, but I'm back now.
Anyway, I came up here to Oregon after smoking about 15 cigarettes in 45 minutes, I stepped on the plane and left my bad habit behind me.
.........to be continued, gotta go help my sis right now.
yo' you 2 gals..hang in there...haven't finished answering your post, Jeannie.

Ding ding...an idea....if any of y'all have any cig smoking quitting stories, lay it on us. And here's my disclaimer: I really do take this seriously. My Mom died in 1999 from lung cancer and a good friend of mine died a couple months ago from lung problems due to smoking. I just feel that a positive approach works for me, along with family/friend support. I don't go the doom and gloom way because I don't have that kind of opinion of death.
Anyway, catch y'all later
love and lightupmylife
deb-o-addictivepersonality

[Jeannie Jones]

Hi from Nafalia, Deb-o-don'tcallmeDebbieK,

I know you don't like being called Debbie, and I don't remember doing it. Must have been in one of the drugged states I've been in lately. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif At least that's what I'm going to assume it was.

With that out of the way, it's certainly good to hear from you, and see that your humor is still alive and well. Hope all is going well in Oregon. Y'know, I lived in Rufus, OR for about a hear and a half. That was back in my wild and crazy days.

Rufus, at the time, had about 427 people in it, so needless to say, I with my flashy city ways stood out like a sore thumb, but the people were friendly and enjoyed the fact that I was there, and so it was a very good time.

My healing process is going quite well. I now have teenie-weenie boobies, which I like a lot, but the biggest surprise of all has been the fact that I never realized I was a small-framed person! Just couldn't see it for the boobs!

How long will you be in Oregon? How is your sister doing? Are you having a good time, or just working all the time?

Remember, keep that spoon in reserve for Deb-o-not-Debbie.

Hope to hear from you again soon, even if you are a nonpartisanpsychonondebating person, for I am the same. I just choose not to get involved in all that bunk!!!

Love and miss you, hurry home,

As above, so below,

Nafalia

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[PMilam]

Well, it's been a while, glad to see you back here!
I've been in over my ears lately, with grandkids and my mom.
As to the political stuff.. I don't mind stating my opinion, but when I get verbal abuse, I don't like it at all. Most of the attacks towards me have stopped, but, now I mostly don't have time for much writing.
I'm lucky to get to read.. and usually, AT or Kim say what I would say, so, what is the point, except to add my name to the numbers.. for "our side".

My mom is here now, she just had all her bottom teeth pulled, and a bridge put in. She is doing very well.. tho, this morning, as I was helping her with her salt water, brought in the shirt she wore last night, to rinse the blood out of it. She was spitting bloody water out of her mouth, and asked.. how on earth did I get blood on it? When I pointed to the sink.. she just looked at me, puzzled.. did not get the connection, could not remember.

My constant prayer these days.. is let me keep my mind. Watching her go through this is awful.

The kids are fabulous. Jade is almost 5 and is so smart, it's scary. Kole is 16 mo. and is a complete sweetheart. He loves to come out here, and run. His postage stamp yard, with it's steep drop off is not a good place for him. Molly will be 10 mo. on the 15th, started walking last week.. and is now running, also!
And another on the way.. Kole will have a .. he says sisa... we don't know, but he seems to... in April.

Oct. 6 will be a year since my mastectomy, and I have energy enough to do all this.. most of the time.
I finally have enough spoons for the kids, and projects around the house. I am thrilled.

Next week, I'm taking a mini 'me' vacation, visiting friends in Prairie Grove, Calico Rock, and Searcy co.. on the Buffalo. Just me.. at my own pace, no one to cook for, or care for.. no phone calls.. and probably my gardens will all croak, since I won't be there to water.

Glad to be back among you..
peace, love and miracles to all of us.
Patt

[PMilam]

Nafalia, what surgery did you have?
I somehow missed that.. hope your recovery is short and sweet...

[Jeannie Jones]

Hi, Patt,

Let me take the liberty to answer your question to Nafalia. Hope she won't mind. She had a breast reduction, to relieve a little of the burden on her spine, which is so fragile. She went from a C cup to an A.

Gotta make this brief. I'm pooped. Nice that you're going to be able to get away for a bit. You need it. Sorry about your mom, and I DO understand it, having watched my Dad's decline.

Love ya,

Jeannie

[DaBee]

Nafalia.....I was just jiving ya' - you never called me Debbie; was just using that to kiddingly justify calling you Naffie or hey, how about Fannie? I like that one too. Ok, before I get on another tangent and my wordage carries me way far away...I'll stop. Good to hear from you NancyNafalia and thanks Jeannie for posting the photos of Nafalia AND Nancy. Now I have a picture in my mind of each one. Are you identical twins? Yep, I'm doin' that jivin' thing again. I'm stopping right now. I'm not kidding when I say you are a beautiful person with a bright shiney light.
So good to hear from you, Patt. Babies everywhere....how wonderful! Have funfunfun on your "mini me" vacation. Last night I watched a movie with Mia Farrow about alzheimers disease. It is frightening. May you be blessed with calm and ease, and your Mom also.
Right now I'm in Gilchrist, Oregon which is in the Cascade Mountains. We're at 4,800 ft above sea level and the ski slopes are about 20 miles away. Not too much farther east, just over the mountain tops is the high desert. Will be here just a few days and then back to Lebanon. My sis is doing much better and looks like the antibiotics took care of the infection.
Mt. Saint Helen just blew according to the news I'm looking at now. This should be interesting. I'm leaving from Portland on Monday and according to what the experts say, there should only be a small amount of ash reaching northern Oregon.
Good to hear from everybody. I'm wondering, how is Laney doing? Haven't heard from you in a while. YooHoo, are you there?
How are you, Jeannie? A couple days into new meds now. Wha'cha think? I'll finish my story later; getting a bit tired now. Hope you're doing groovlectibly great.
love and light and piccalos and oboes
deb-o-cascadingcreshendos

[mtnviewsteve]

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Wake up, DaBeRaMaOrEgOnTiMeTrAvElEr http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif
Happy Saturday, Spirit Friends,

So thankful for the cooler temp's but WE still need rain to moisten up this powder-keg of woods I live in. Please join hands with me and focus on the gift of heavenly moisture only Spirit can deliver. May the day bring you pleasure, rest, renewal of Spirit and may you be Blessed with "tWiStEdHeAlInGlIgHt".
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"GOOD STARTS"
I give thanks for the wonderful and abundant and perfect form of my life! I know that it all comes from Spirit, that it is Spirit's way of
expressing itself perfectly through my eyes and understanding. I know that my body is Spirit's vehicle for experiencing the world through my own unique perspective, and I honor it totally. I know that my mind is Spirits way of thinking about itself through me. And I know that my heart is Spirit's way of experiencing the giving and receiving of love. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif

In my life, I take plenty of time to honor the vehicle in which my soul travels. I take good care of my body, doing the activities that I know support its health, its strength, and its flexibility. I take care of my mind, feeding it wonderful and insightful ideas that stretch my understanding to new vistas. And I take care of my heart, releasing old hurts and resentments, forgiving wherever forgiveness is needed, so that the primal and perfect love of Spirit may flow with ease through all that I do, say, or think.

I am so very grateful for this experience of being the vehicle for spiritual expression, and I let my life unfold in grace, in joy, and in
majesty. And so it is.
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As Above, So Below.
TwIsTeDlIgHtMaNiAcStEvE
"May the longtime Sun shine upon You, all Love surround You and the Pure
Light within You guide Your Way on..."




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[Jeannie Jones]

From Nafalia to Patt,

Thank you so much for being thoughtful and asking about my surgery.

In reality, the surgery was a breeze. I've had no pain at all, just some soreness and tenderness. Had the last stitches taken out on Wednesday, and the doctor said everything looks great.

What a relief to my poor tired neck to have that extra weight off of my chest. The doctor removed a pound from each breast, and my weight limit that I can pick up with my neck as it is, is 2 1/2 lbs. So you can imagine how much better my neck feels.

I cannot express how happy I am that I had it done.

As I've expressed to Deb, I have been absolutely shocked at the size of my body frame. I always saw myself as a person with broad shoulders, and the opposite is the truth. So that's been a real surprise!

Once again, thank you for being so thoughtful.

Nafalia

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[PMilam]

I am happy to hear that you have gotten relief. And I know what you mean.. now that I have no breasts, I'm downright svelte!! Well, it's taken getting rid of some other weight, too.

I know of several young women that would benefit greatly from breast reduction. It's amazing how much heavier one looks with big ole boobs. Trouble is, so few have ins. and even if they do, it is seen as selective surgery. Think of how mush better you might have felt.. for years!... if you had been "allowed" this surgery earlier.

Oh, what a nice day! I've been out doing a rain dance.. washed the thick layer of dust off the back of the cars.. won't do any good to wash em good, not on this road.

Hope you all are enjoying the break from the heat.

Peace, love and miracles,
Patt

[Jeannie Jones]

Nafalia here, Patt,

I agree with you totally, as far as some of the young women benefitting from this type of reduction. Fortunately for me, it was for medical reasons, so my Medicare/Medicaid covered the whole thing.

My lower spine is actually weaker than my upper spine, and due to the fact that I've had 2 abdominal surgeries, and birthing 3 children, I have about a 5-lb. stomach area, which is not a great deal, as I'm not really an overweight person. But my plastic surgeon, Dr. Gaska, of Springfield, and I talked of the relief that I would get from a tummy tuck. Unfortunately Medicare/Medicaid will not cover a tummy tuck. I plan, in the Spring or early Summer, of just going ahead and biting the bullet and paying for it for myself, by doing some creative financing. Because I know that with the relief I've had from the breast reduction has been so great, that I know that when we do the tummy tuck surgery that my lower spine will be relieved a great deal. Dr. Gaska showed me how it would work and how it would pull the muscles that have been cut and damaged, and take the pressure off of my lower spine.

These injuries are some 40 yrs. old, and now being 61, I feel that any relief I can get, has been earned and well-deserved. So come late Spring or early Summer I will have that surgery done.

Believe me, it's not an elective thing, but a medical issue, just one that Medicare will not pay for. So, I will continue on with this when the time comes.

It is rather sad that Medicare won't pay for something that would truly be a benefit to the patient, but that's life, and how the System works. So this is where it stands at this point.

As above, so below,

Nafalia

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[Marsha Havens]

I didn't know there were geekfest get-togethers!!

We had an impromptu get-together in my shop the other day -- Patt Milam and Royal Alcott!! Although they were both surprised, they handled the meeting with grace and poise.

It's not just a store, it's a social event -- haha!

[DaBee]

It's been a social event just about every time I've been in, Marsha. Along with just running into old and new friends, there's a feeling of comfort and hominess in your store. Hope all is well with you and business is good. Any signs of Christmas shopping yet?
Nafalia...glad you're feeling so well. Are you able to get out and walk around your place? And Jeannie, thanks again for transcribing Nafalia to us. I'm still gonna answer what I started, but it's been a long day and my eyes are too tired. I drove up a huge mountain that's part of a crater with 2 lakes. You can see the old lava flows. The top is at almost 8000 feet and we started at about 4000. Quite a steep climb...my ears were popping. So I'm popped and pooped.
Good to hear from you too, Patt. When is it that you're leaving on your trip? You know, Patt, any time that I see you writing about your mastectomy, even though I haven't met you in person, I am so thankful that you're at the 1 year mark. You seem to be doing well and sounds like your energy level is growing, too. I'm just happy for you.
Did y'all see in the Open Forum where my daughter in law, Chrystal, is trying to gather folks together to create a symphony? If you have any ideas about other musicians or approaches, please let her know. She's a fab gal and a wonderful violinist.
Take care everyone.....see y'all on the Ozark side soon.
love and light and Mount Shasta in the sunset
deb-o-twistedlighttimetraveleraspersTeVe

[mtnviewsteve]

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Eurekean Spirit Friends,
Br-r-r-r, chilly Sunday morning, here in the Ozarks. Join me for a fresh, piping hot cup of French Roast Coffee and Let's greet the day, Spirit has promised Healing, Love, and TwIsTeDhEaLiNgLiGhT.
BLESSED BE.

"GOOD STARTS"
There is only One, and it is for this One that I long. It has always been what I sought, whether I was looking for love or a new job - for peace of mind or healing. I yearn for this One still, in ever new forms. Its name doesn't matter; it has many names. The thing to know is that it is real, it is here, it is the source of all. It is the creative force behind my life, and it is in me, always.

I know that this Presence is always available, offering the best of itself to me. It does this through the divine desire that burns within me; the desire for peace, for a just and kind world, for physical vitality and wild creativity. God offers itself to me through the longing for a deeper connection with my family, my friends, and my community. It makes bold advances on my heart by revealing the seeds of potent ideas in my thinking. Whatever my need or my desire, that is the presence of God making itself known.

I choose this day to wake up to the persistent invitation that Spirit is giving me. I realize that my desires aren't distractions from spiritual things, but they are Spirit's way of finding a home in my heart. I embrace my divine desire, and choose to recognize the yearning I feel as what it is: life's longing for itself - god's desire to move from the realm of possibility into the manifest world.

I am awake, alive, and ready to embrace a desire worthy of my life - one that's big enough for me to grow into, and one that will activate the best of my Self in my thinking, choices, and in every word I speak. I know that this One also has the power, the intelligence, and the love to birth itself through me - I don't have to know how it will happen. All I need know is that there is a spiritual Law that is always supporting this eternal process of creation and re-creation. I know that it's happening today in me.

I am so grateful for Spirit's power to announce its presence through delicious, divine desire! I embrace this desire and let God do its work in me, making my mind, my heart, and my life a place of deepening, of power, and of intimate, infinite connection. And so it is.

As Above, So Below.
TwIsTeDlIgHtMaNiAcStEvE
"May the longtime Sun shine upon You, all Love surround You and the Pure
Light within You guide Your Way on..."

[Becky Davis]

You are such a neat guy Steve.

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[DaBee]

I agree, StEvE is a neat twistedlightmaniac. Love to hear from him and the wise words he brings along.

I have a request....getting ready to head for Portland...it takes a couple hours to get there. Of course, I'm putting everything in the hands of my Higher Power, but feel that some light focused my way wouldn't hurt.....am just wanting to take off from Portland and be on my way home before Mount Saint Helen's blows again. Right now the news says that an eruption is imminent. Also that the winds are blowing southeast toward the Cascades. I know that God will put me exactly where I need to be because I am in an agreement that that is how my life is to be. Maybe I'm being a bit whiney, but the Rheumatoid Arthritis and Lupus is kicking in a bit and my spoons feel really spread out, if you know what I mean. Okedoke, I'm outta here!
Love and light and harmonious flight
deb-o-AA

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[Becky Davis]

Did you catch a flight out of portland Deb. Are you home yet?
MotherMoon how are the twins? Had many sleepless nights? Isn't it something how that built in alarm kicks in and you make it through with the kids like you hardly missed a wink? Hope all is well.

[MotherMoon12]

The twins are perfect and wonderful. They are so little they don't look real, but are quite sturdy. Misty is feeling great. They were all glad to be home. Chris and I hardly ever hear the babies if they cry at night. They have a wonderful Mommy and Daddy who take great care of them. Seems like Misty is going to be feeding them non-stop. They want to eat all the time but she has LOTS of milk. They co-sleep with all their kids. The big boys have bunk beds and the twins are sharing a crib, and Banyan sleeps with Misty and Curtis. They have two rooms that are connected. The little babies always sleep in the same room as their parents. The older boys are just steps away. We believe this arrangement makes children more secure and more independent. It is the way we raised our kids and I couldn't ask for better adult children. We will have some pictures of the twins online soon.

[MotherMoon12]

Look here!

http://www.stjohnsberryville.com/nursery/babies.phtm

Aren't they all gorgeous?

[DaBee]

Originally posted by MotherMoon12:
Look here!
Aren't they all gorgeous?

Yes, MotherMoon12, gorgeous....everyone. Love the babes names; Aspen and Willow. Congrats to all. I bet Christmas will be a blast! It's really cool how the hospital puts the pics of the new babies and mom and dad up. These look like especially proud parents. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif

[DaBee]

Hi y'all....got home Tuesday evening from Oregon. The flight from Portland to Dallas was cancelled because of bad weather in Dallas. Now I just got home from the LR med school. I'm feeling discombobulated, but all ia okedoke out here on the farm. Will have the 2 grandbabes here tonight, so gotta go do GrandmaBee stuff. I've sure missed that the last couple of weeks.
Hope all is well with everyone. Thank goodness for the rain; short but sweet!
love and light and Little Rock traffic is not for me
deb-o-bobuliscomdated

[Jeannie Jones]

Fond Farewell from Nafalia

Well, dear hearts, one and all, I feel that it's time that I be moving on. The time that I've had with each of you, and getting to know you, has been a very special time.
Just want each of you to know how special it's been, and how special the part you've played in my life has been, at a time when you were badly needed, and I hoped that I served a purpose in your life also.

I feel Spirit-led, and by my own choice, as well, that it's time to say a fond farewell. May all the beauty and the wonder of the Universe fill your life, day and night. May magic and enchantment surround you, in every step that you take.

Perhaps, who knows, one day our paths may cross again.

As I have willed it, so mote it be

Done is done

As above, so below,

Nafalia

In Spirit

I'll be with you forever


P.S. Just so you all will know, that if you ask Jeannie why this came about, she will not be able to answer you, because it is by my choice.

[PMilam]

Short but sweet.

Aloha.. Namaste.. Peace... Love... and Miracles along your way.

[DaBee]

I keep thinking that if I go away for awhile and then come back, Nafalia's above post will be retracted. It hasn't worked yet.
http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/confused.gif love and light
deb-o-sad

[DaBee]

OK, Nafalia, I accept this going away with honor to you. To follow one's light is the ultimate love of all that is.
love and light
deborah

[DaBee]

I'm sure that you're aware of it, but just in case....The Hermit is asking when a good time for the next Geekfest-o-Rama would be over on Hey Lita from the Open Forum.
Anybody out there have any input on this matter? StEvE (oh twisted-light maniac bro), what'cha think? How bout you, JJ? I'm asking you 2 mainly because I know you live a bit away from Eureka. Anybody else?
Hey, this could be fun!
love and light and twistandshout
deb-o-hullabaloo

[DaBee]

Free at last
Free at last
Thank you God/Goddess
I'm Free at last!
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[DaBee]

One last question....
Do y'all think it's time to put this puppy to bed?
love and light and sugar plum fairies
deb-o-getthelightwillya?

p.s.....ok, now don't everyone speak at once
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[PMilam]

It will just go, when the time is right.. I guess.

Lately, I barely keep up with one board, and don't post that much. My mamma is taking up a good bit of time, and when she is not with me, I get out and about more. And there's grandbabies!!

It seems that if we ever want to come here, it will be here. Doesn't have to be this exact same thread. If one of us needs this sort of support and kinship, we just say so. And if there's someone here, they'll pick it up.

No puppies have to die. They can just go outside and play. When they want their tummies rubbed... they'll come back.

I'm hoping that I can be at the next crab/geek gathering.. Nov. 4.. but, I don't want to jinks it!

So, maybe I'll see you there..

[Jeannie Jones]

Well, m'dears, don't know if anyone will come back here or not, but I just found myself here and thought I'd leave footprints.

Echoing Patt's words above, I seem to be able to only handle about one board at a time now, to prevent burn-out. A group of my friends in Oklahoma AND San Francisco in the 60's have joined in cyberspace, from Australia to Calif., to Evanston, just north of Chicago, some in Okla. and me in Ark. It's really been grand, though one's husband just passed about a week ago.

Candace, the recently widowed, and I shared a room in one San Francisco apt. where 4 of us lived, when we were just barely adults. AND, we only had one mattress. (It was so easy to move then, not having many possessions.) It was a single mattress, and we shared it by positioning toe to head. She had a lovely Uruguayan accent, and she was quite beautiful, though I don't think she knew it. Her parents were missionaries, and she grew up in Uruguay.

So anyway, y'all are still in my heart, whether you'll allow me into your inbox or not. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif

Much love for all,

Jeannie

[DaBee]

I've just been waiting patiently for you to come back here, Jeannie http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif
I've been fairly quiet lately. Need to listen for a vague light, watch for a melodic whisper, catch the wisp of of a salty cloud or maybe the touch of a friend reaching back to lend me a hand in stepping forward. I'll know what it is when it is time for me to know what it is. Thank you for sharing your friends as you join hands with each other again.
And thank you for reaching back to pull this energy forward.
love and light
deb

[PMilam]

Hi there, ladies.
Just happened in this cooold morning, a bit too sleepy to think. We went to town tonight, dinner at Cafe Soliel, where we happend to know about 80% of the people there.. and we were all heading to the Aud to hear Danu. They were great! Ever try to dance a jig in one of those tiny seats?!? Great crowd, lots of familiar faces, and lots of folk I've never seen before.

Anyway... I've got to go to sleep.
Nice to see you here.
Sweet dreams

[Becky Davis]

Glad to see yall are here.

[DaBee]

.........and glad to see that y'all are here, too! Wow, what a beautiful morning in the Ozarks. On the Open Forum, the subject of Indigo Children has been presented. Possibly that is what I've been waiting for. Think this will be a good one to follow...and...if Barb is able to get all of the Indigo ducks in a row, maybe we will be able to have the opportunity to see the new movie.
When I first opened up the Gratitude Journal this morning, the post of mtnviewsTeVe's showed up and he was talking about drinking a nice hot cup of coffee in the morning. I thought that he was back too! So are you out there, twistedlightbrother?

gotta go put on a suit of sunshine and get on with the day....heyheyhey.
love and light and itscoldinthishouse
deb-o-thermalunderwear http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif

[Jeannie Jones]

Well, gals, just hit and ran last time, and didn't check in again 'til just now. Didn't know if anybody would check in here or not, and what a delightful surprise to find messages from friends.

So, Deb, when's the book coming out. You do the most amazing thing with words.

Well, it's another hit and run for me. Gotta scoot.

Down to 4 cigarettes a day these last few days. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Anybody feeling an energy shift lately?

Much love,

Jeannie http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif

[DaBee]

Glad to see you jump in for a sec, Jeannie. I don't know why, but I've been thinking about Joy and Liz all day. Just bits and pieces of being at their house at different times. I hope Liz is doing okedoke. Is she still in (I think) Arizona or maybe New Mexico?
More power to you with the ciggypoo thingy. My approach was cold turkey..all or none. Are you using a specific system or is it a J.J. Special? Sending light to extinguish the light http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif
Yes, has been a bit shifty lately. It's kinda different (for me, anyway) it seems. I feel a disarray somehow that is causing me to do something I've never really done before: recluse myself. I don't want to go anywhere. Am content to just be right here in my little house. The feeling of being grounded is predominant. It's a Gaia thing, me thinks. These things always feel strange to try to explain. There is a sound that I hear from time to time that doesn't seem to go beyond me, but I could be wrong about that. Am noticing that I'm using the word 'feeling' quite a lot here, but this feeling is not quite to the 'knowing' phase, so it's appropriate.
I'm wondering if anyone else reading this knows what Jeannie or myself is talking about. Does this attempted description come anywhere near what you're talking about, Jeannie?
Looks like the snow is on its way tonight. Keep those wood stoves stoked!
love and light and kindling galore
deb-o-splinterinthefinger

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[Becky Davis]

I've noticed a black hole in my energy lately.

[Jeannie Jones]

Yup...hmmm...black hole...I sure understand that one, Becky. Here I am, still stuck to my chair.

Deb, the Gaia thing is interesting, considering the recent tsunamis and bizarre weather in many places and other odd things.

So the earth is divided into 7 major and many minor tectonic plates, 50 MILES deep. It was the shifting of tectonic plates under the Atlantic that caused the tsunamis, and one can easily imagine that there would be some sort of domino effect following a shift of that magnitude.

There was an earthquake today (I think it was today) in the Philippines, that was tectonic in origin. It was 6.9 or 7.1 on the Richter scale, depending on which source one reads. So maybe we're hanging on to Mother Earth for dear life. Some of us, that is. Others are leaving us.

Y'know, I mentioned my friend Candace in San Francisco, whose husband just passed after they spent 33 years together. Well, today there was a gathering for him, and another friend sent me a link to a piece that their son wrote, with a photo, for their union, and an obit from the newspaper. What a guy! He sounds like (and looks like) an angel! Candace spent 33 years with him. If you're at all interested, check them out:

http://www.local16.org/obits/Benson/danny_benson.htm

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/02/04/MNBENSONDA21.DTL

Oh, and Deb, the tone deal, vibration creates sound, whether we can pick it up or not, and everything in nature vibrates. I think you're picking up yours. I'm told that in future, we'll be able to give ourselves (or each other?) "tonal adjustments" to fix our health problems. Yayuh!

So, that's about all the concentration I have left. Oh, still 4 cigs a day...would like to add a 5th, as a kind of wild card. But as it is, that pack lasted me 5 days, which seems darned good to me. If I weren't taking the Wellbutrin, I don't know if I could do it this way. I truly want to control it extremely, not to quit. So taking one drug to control another...I don't know if it makes sense or not. I've cut the Well. in half, though, because of side effects. I'm choosing to approach the whole thing as a kind of game, so as not to feel negatively about it.

Well, dear hearts, love to all,

Jeannie

[Becky Davis]

Xochitl...how do you pronounce that Jeannie?
Cool man. Cool life.

[Jeannie Jones]

None of us knew either, so one asked, and Candace's closest friend told us:

"Xochitl is pronounced so-chee (or close to that, more formally you can hear the 'l' a bit)"

I think it's maybe Aztec.

It made me think of my friend Eric, the flute-player in St. Petersburg, RU, who was born in Armenia, and grew up in Sochi, on the Black Sea.

Yes--Danny--cool man indeed.

[DaBee]

Originally posted by Jeannie Jones:
Deb, the Gaia thing is interesting, considering the recent tsunamis and bizarre weather in many places and other odd things.
So the earth is divided into 7 major and many minor tectonic plates, 50 MILES deep. It was the shifting of tectonic plates under the Atlantic that caused the tsunamis, and one can easily imagine that there would be some sort of domino effect following a shift of that magnitude.
Oh, and Deb, the tone deal, vibration creates sound, whether we can pick it up or not, and everything in nature vibrates. I think you're picking up yours. I'm told that in future, we'll be able to give ourselves (or each other?) "tonal adjustments" to fix our health problems. Yayuh!
Well, dear hearts, love to all,
Jeannie

Thanks for sharing your friends with us, Jeannie. I enjoyed reading the articles and consider it an honor to be aware of such a man as Xochitl. Candace and Xochitl sound like wonderful friends to have.
Jeannie, I'd say to stay on the Wellbutrin for the cigarette cessation. The 1st time I quit was with sheer willpower and the 2nd time was with help from the other purple pill. I was wondering what kind of side effects you were having. Could it be excessive sleepiness? Hooray for being able to cut down to 4. Each one of them must taste really good. You can tell that I'm an ex-smoker, huh?
The humming that I hear and feel have been happening for about 15 years. It seems to be very noticable, even loud at certain places like friend's homes, a spot on the river, my home at differing levels. I always get a kind of "caution" feeling when it is not there at all. I've thought about the earth plate shifts and volcanic activity, etc. being associated with this, but can find no information about it. Actually, I'm surprised that I'm talking about it right now, as I never do. But that's ok as maybe someone else has experienced something like this and they will then know that it's not just them. I hope so, anyway. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif


***Boriska-boy from Mars - PRAVDA.Ru ***
I was reading this article and found it quite interesting, but when I went back to make a comment, the whole post was gone. After reading about Mars and e.t. type information, I'm justa sittin' here going, "Hmmmmmmmm?" It must be the twisted sun light that's shining on me causing all kinds of dimensional shifts. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif.
Whew...must be time to take a nap.
love and light and almond joy
deb-o-snickerbars

[Jeannie Jones]

Well, Deb, are you aware of tinnitus (or is it tinitus)? It's a neurological deal causing sounds in the head/ears. Lots of different sounds. My grandmother had the sound of a motorboat for some years, then all of a sudden it stopped.

I have...mmm...since about 1979, unremitting sounds in my head that sound kind of like night sounds, but very very high-pitched--kind of like electronic high-pitched sounds--no pattern, constantly changing. The first time I noticed it, I stepped out into the night to see if it was night sounds, but no, it wasn't. Too high and fast. Very odd. Didn't tell anyone for years, thinking they'd think I was nuts...er, mentally challenged. But it's an actual neurological oddity.

Could it be that? I know there's plenty out there on the web about it. Barbara Streisand has it also. I believe Tony Randall had it too.

I find that silence is not my favorite thing, because the tinitus(sp) seems louder then.

[DaBee]

"My religion is very simple. My religion is kindness."
Author:The Dalai Lama

[PMilam]

Well, I've been muy preoccupado lately.. my own brain zinging and it's birthday month in this family!
Craig took off 9 days, and we spent all but 2 days of it right here... in riverdream.

I think that Feb. has it's own vibration.. signaling the end of winter, and the chirps of spring. One of my daughters was talking about being down.. I recalled for her, a Valentines day that I had purchased a ladder for Craig, and was so mad at him, by VD, that I took it back. I told him about it for the first time on this past VD.

That brings me to thoughts on Valentines day..
It seems to me that someone in the candy/flower/greeting card/ psychiatry business thought this up a long time ago..
It seems to me that the majority of people are either not in a relationship, in a bad relationship, a rocky relationship, or in one that does not require a token of love on this particular day.
It seems to me that the people that most enjoy Valentines day are kid up to about 10-11 years old. That's when it seems like a fun "holiday". Usually you spend a day on the craft of making decorations and cards for the class room, then, at home, if you had a crafty parent, you would cut out paper hearts, and glue them together, or put glitter on them.. if you didn't have a crafty parent, most likely, you got the big, cheap box of penny cards. Then, you have to decide which one is appropriate for each kid.. and save the special one for your best friend.. could be a boy or girl.. didn't really matter then. Then, the big day, with your decorated shoe box, you head for school with high expectations.. and sometimes, they were met. You got candy and pencils and treats.. the cards, you shoved aside, for the ones with candy or treats glued or taped on them. The special card from someone that cared a lot for you is cast aside. Then, your parents have to figure out how to sneak that box away, and get rid of it. Otherwise, it is destined for the attic, bottom of the closet, or store room.

As we get older, the more important the special ones become. If you don't get a special card.. or several of them, you are sad and get depressed.. the one you "love" does not "love" you. By the time you get to the 6th grade, all the fun is gone. It becomes a popularity contest. No longer do your parents put the names of all the kids in your class on 30 different cards. Now, you select your cards, and only give them to the people you like. What if you don't get cards from the people you gave them to? The horror!

By high school, it's horrible. Many don't even want to go to school on VD day. If you are a nerd, or whatever the unacceptable term is these days for the not-so-popular, it is pure hell. Perhaps a mean kid gives you a special, unsigned card.. then, you show it to all your friends, and notice a titter all around you. Perhaps you just broke up with your love, and have no one to share the day with.. miserable.

Then, when you are out of school, and have no special person in your life the commercials are enough to make you want to sleep through the day.

When/if you finally are in a lasting relationship, it is still a forced march. If you don't get your spouse/partner a card, flowers or candy, you are up **** creek. Strange as it may seem, the expectations from your childhood are still there.. you still crave that special, decorated time, with candy and love all around.. love for all...
And you weep. It, most likely, will never be the time that you learned to expect, as a child. It becomes a day of sadness, of lost love, love never found.. or just plain ole, everyday love.

Which is what I am finally happy with. I quit expecting something grand for the day.

This is the email that I sent Craig on VD this year...

°°°°°°°°°°°°°
From my daily deep thoughts....
One act of pure love in saving life is greater than spending the whole of one's time in religious offerings to the gods.
-Dhammapada

So, you have saved lives, in pure love... no need to spend time with offerings to the gods. You're set for life.
I love you, my funny Valentine.

°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
He came home "empty handed" this VD, and I was very happy to see him, and to spend the evening watching tv with him. Ahhhhh...

[Jeannie Jones]

Beautiful "love day" offerings, ladies. Thanks. Love to all.

[DaBee]

Patt, when you were writing about childhood memories of Valentine's Day, you described exactly my thoughts and memories and expectations. Thanks for sharing that. Like you said, a lot of the expectations linger on into adulthood. They've gotten me into emotional trouble because of events not unfolding just as I had imagined. So I've learned to buck up and not expect anything. Except, that's just a cover....I really hoped for just a little something. During my 1st marriage of 21 years, I did grow to never expect anything much for Christmas and my birthday was always forgotten as was the anniversary. During the 2nd marriage, I always got an excess of "stuff" for any of these events. Guess I am never satisfied, cause those times just never had any zip and zing to them. Actually, I always seem to feel a sadness....guess a pattern was set from long before. Now during these alone years, being totally unexpectant....lo and behold....in the mail, smack dab on Valentine's Day....came a big purple envelope with a beautiful card in it. Wanna guess who sent it????????????
?????????????????????????????????
My 1st husband.

I am just not going to try to figure out this life stuff any more. Nothing ever makes much sense...to me.
That's good, because now I can be happy, joyous and free by having no expectations. Life is gonna do it's own thing and it does a much better job without me interfering.

love and light and pink hearts
deb-o-i'masweetheartagain

ps..February is my family's birthday month also. 6 of them including mine.

Jeannie...good to hear from you as always. Hope all is well. You look and sound good!

[Becky Davis]

So Deb...it sounds like things are going nicely for you. Didn't the kids Grandpa come down a few months ago.
Maybe in all of these years, he has done a little reflecting and realized how precious family is. I think guys always maintain a special place for the mother of their children even if all they do is fuss and fight. Its wonderful that bridge has been crossed and a new one is being built isn't it?
I called my family and told them not to get me a thing. I didn't have time to shop either. I know they love me. They show it everyday. I did tell my son he better darn well get my DiL something. (I knew she had gotten him something) Us'n women gotta stick together.

[DaBee]

Reflecting Self Image
Taming The Ego

For babies, separation is the first cause of true grief. As we age, however, the same individuality becomes a source of exploration and, finally, pride. Each of us is unique, not only in appearance or personality, but in thought as well. In its simplest definition, the ego is the concept of self that acts as a barrier between one's own mind and the world. It is the "I" we understand ourselves to be. The ego is conscious and, in many instances, controls how we think, how we act, and how we perceive reality because it is through the ego that we understand our experiences. In essence, it strives to remind us or even to convince us of our separateness, as well as our uniqueness. The ego can lead us to selfishness, conceit, and isolation, but it can also lift us up to new heights of confidence and self love.

It is often easy to wear our egos as pride, arrogance, or self-importance, and to blame ego for various shortcomings. Given that each person has an ego, however, it's natural to grasp that the ego is neither bad nor good. It helps us remain focused and to achieve a balance between primitive desires and ethical beliefs. It gives us the ability to change and to be flexible, while letting us maintain confidence. By becoming conscious of your own ego and its desires, distractions, compulsions, and fears, you can move away from ego-centered pride and a need to compete. Taming the ego allows you to create upsets, make mistakes, lose, or fail, yet still accept yourself. In the Buddhist tradition, meditation is one path to understanding the ego's motives and methods before taming its impulses. If your ego has become a hindrance, it can be helpful to explore the concept of oneness or selflessness, which can help reconcile overactive feelings of individuality, fear, and isolation.

It is ego that prevents us from seeing the world as a whole by causing us to label and judge each thing we're confronted with. But it also ego that allows us to feel special and to revel in our accomplishments and skills. It may be an integral part of what makes us human. Celebrating that, and the ego itself, is a step toward loving ourselves and the many-faceted individuals all around us.

For more information visit Hsuyun.org
http://www.hsuyun.org/Dharma/zbohy/Literature/essays/syc/entanglements.html

[DaBee]

I've decided that this topic is too important to just let slip away. It's a place of positivity and light. I've seen too many comments from people that enjoy coming here, even if they just cruise through. I don't want to be here alone, though, so please please please add your thoughts and positive input. I love reading and occasionally commenting on the Open Forum, but just feel more at home over here. I am trying to be open and sensitive to myself and others. It's kind of an honoring of our love and light. I found this quote to fit in quite nicely with this post:

People are like stained glass windows -- the true beauty can be seen only when there is light from within. The darker the night, the brighter the windows
~Elizabeth Kubler-Ross

[Becky Davis]

I think pride has probably caused more long term damage than any other fault. It prevents one from saying "I'm sorry."

[PMilam]

It also causes us to "suffer in silence". Our egos oft times stop us from asking for help, friendship, touch, encouragement, money, etc.

How many people are alone, afraid and suffering, because they cannot pick up the phone and say..
Help me.
How many of us would not come when called?

If there is no one to help, how can we help?

Yes, this is a place of warmth. I usually read the forum, but, seldom feel moved to respond. If my thoughts go unexpressed by someone else... I venture in.

All too often, my tail swings out and types something sarcastic. If it keeps thrashing about, I'll get in trouble! Of my own making, of course!

I think the horror-scope (sic) thread could have gone here, too.

Yesterday, I felt so spoon-filled! The sun is an amazing tonic. Today, as too damn many Ozark daze are...gloomy. Makes me want to lie on the couch, and read a mystery.

What are you reading now?

I just finished High Country, by Nevada Barr.
I like mysteries.. and all of hers take place in different National Parks.. this one was in Yellowstone.

I haven't read any spiritual stuff lately.. sometimes it seems I have disconnected.. in the way of daily practices. My first reading every morning is from Good Starts and Beliefnet.. daily Buddhist readings.. and my horror scope. Then, personal emails.. then, news... geekfest.. weather.. and we're off and shuffling around, doing busy work.. keeping the fire going, feeding the animals and fish... feed myself.. put in a load of laundry.. pick up after grandbabies.. I never have the energy for it, when they first leave!.. check geekfest... round and round she goes..

Maybe it is the last reading that sticks with me.. news/geekfest. Maybe I need to end my morning reads with the good starts!
Or.. maybe here..

[DaBee]

Sometimes I feel that the "reason for life" is to conquer the ego. That's probably not true, but know that it sure gets in the way of living life fully sometimes. Something that I learned a few years back that helps me and others, too, is to be able to ask AND accept help and the kindness from others. It seems that to allow others to express their goodness by me not having to be in control, and to just set back and watch the process unfold is an amazing thing to experience. (I actually think it's one of those Crone things, but haven't asked anyone younger so don't really know.) Sometimes it even brings me to tears to see someone do good things. And it also brings me to tears to see the opposite. I really don't cry a lot, but put a good movie in front of me and I have to be wrung out like a dishrag.
Speaking of movies......a few nights ago I watched the movie "Notebook". OMG, Niagara Falls. Actually, think that was because it reminded me of myself and my first husband....the guy that I spoke of above. I've often thought that our humble beginnings would make for a pretty good movie script. To think that there may be a sequel is even stranger than fiction!
Books, hmmmmmmm. I usually have several going at once, but only one per category or I end up with some really twisted up chapters. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif Lets see...."The Song of the Bird" by Anthony de Mello, "Kryon....The End Times" Lee Carroll, "Fit for Life" by Harvey and Marilyn Diamond. Read lots of stuff online and also contribute to a web site that my daughter-in-law and I have started. My mornings sound like yours, Patt. Have one of the grandkids here right now and it's about nap time and don't think he'll put up too much of a fuss joining me http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif.
Thanks Becky and Patt, this is great.

[DaBee]

11 Ways To Improve Your Health
Hints For A Healthy Lifestyle

1. Our bodies are attuned to the wisdom of many millions of years of evolution and communicate with us through each moment of our lives. Listening to your body by acknowledging and acting on feelings of comfort and discomfort, illness and health, or happiness and despair can lead you to a better understanding of the body's needs.

2. To fuel the fire which is your being, it is vital to consume only that which will benefit the body. Processed and artificial foods should be replaced with fresh produce and whole grains. Exploring macrobiotics, vegetarianism, and other unique diets can become a culinary adventure.

3. There is no medication so formidable as rest. When you sleep uninterrupted for a period of eight hours, your body's natural healing and rejuvenating abilities are free to work unencumbered by physical and mental stresses.

4. Our breath is always with us. Breathing deeply and deliberately provides nourishment in the form of oxygen to the body but also acts to relax the brain and nervous system.

5. The human form has adapted for activity and something is lost when we deny ourselves movement in all forms. Exercise and stretching not only improve the body, increasing the effectiveness of the lungs and circulatory system while expelling toxins and boosting immunity, but also lifts the spirits by stimulating the body's flow of pleasurable endorphins.

6. Yoga unites the mind and the body, promoting health in both. Regular practice of the discipline's complex movements tone and stimulate the physical form while increasing concentration, decreasing stress, and inspiring well-being.

7. The human body possesses the ability to cleanse itself. When you fast, you trigger this ability, prompting beneficial enzymes to enter the bloodstream, where they eliminate accumulated wastes such as pollutants and metabolic wastes, to rebuild immunity and restore health.

8. Balance must prevail for health to exist. Meditation can help you achieve a healthful balance in body and soul. Concentration, meditative breathing, or visualizations focus the mind and allow negativity to drain away, leaving you with a sense of control and self-awareness. Find your bliss.

9. Home is the heart of health and a change in your environment can inspire positive changes within your body. Explore Feng Shui, color therapy, or new methods of organization. Clearing the clutter in your home's pathways may clear clutter in your body and soul.

10. Challenges can be exhilarating at first but, when prolonged, cause stress. Sustained stress can lead to weakened immune function, sickness, fatigue, anxiety, and depression. Take time out to care for yourself and focus on relaxing solitary pursuits.

11. Look on the bright side of life. Laughter lowers levels of stress hormones adrenaline and cortisol and increases the levels of pleasurable endorphins within the body, leaving you with a happy afterglow and tension-free muscles. A positive outlook improves immunity and promotes faster healing after surgeries or illness.

[Becky Davis]

I think I am at a time, where I am close to spiritual bankruptcy myself. I think I have drawn and drawn and not deposited anything in awhile. It is time for me to do my work and get back on track with my prayers and meditation.

I don't like the feeling I get when I don't. It is like running on empty. Plus, I think I have been spending too much time with a few folks that just make me feel tired all of the time. Zaps my energy.

I had so much fun the other day. My neighbor was out cleaning her front yard and I was cleaning mine. We have little front yards by the way. It was really pleasant. We were both working and keeping each other company. Got a burn permit and raked out leaves together and burned them. (What I didn't throw in a compost)
Anyway, I need to spend more time doing constructive things that give me energy and some positive thinking. Sometimes I can draw energy off of going to a good movie, play or a ball game. Anywhere there are a lot of people having a good time and exuding electricity. I'm like a dry cell that sucks it up. Does this sound too nutty?

No books lately...it seems everything I start, I do not finish.

[DaBee]

Originally posted by Becky Davis:
I think I am at a time, where I am close to spiritual bankruptcy myself. I think I have drawn and drawn and not deposited anything in awhile. It is time for me to do my work and get back on track with my prayers and meditation. I don't like the feeling I get when I don't. It is like running on empty. Plus, I think I have been spending too much time with a few folks that just make me feel tired all of the time. Zaps my energy. I had so much fun the other day. My neighbor was out cleaning her front yard and I was cleaning mine. We have little front yards by the way. It was really pleasant. We were both working and keeping each other company. Got a burn permit and raked out leaves together and burned them. (What I didn't throw in a compost)
Anyway, I need to spend more time doing constructive things that give me energy and some positive thinking. Sometimes I can draw energy off of going to a good movie, play or a ball game. Anywhere there are a lot of people having a good time and exuding electricity. I'm like a dry cell that sucks it up. Does this sound too nutty? No books lately...it seems everything I start, I do not finish.

I've been down south in Texas for the last couple of weeks. My ex-mother-in-law is very ill at a hospital in Jasper, Tx. Visited her for a few days and spent the rest of the time in Canton...my old home place. Even got about half a day in at First Monday. Took it real slow and did pretty good ambulating around. If anyone is familiar with the Trades Day (as it's also called) and haven't been there in a while...OMG, the place has exploded and is massive. Probably over a hundred acres of vendors out under the trees, but mainly pavillions as far as you can see.
When you spoke of being like a dry cell that sucks up energy, Becky, it reminds me of the book Celestine Prophecy. I've read all of Redfield's books and a few of them, especially the first one, several times. I know it's fiction, but I saw truth in a lot of the examples about energy in everything. It's one of the reasons that I paint rocks, as they have a very soothing vibration (to me) and I love to walk a creek bed to find the ones "calling out" to me. It's almost like a meditation w/exercise and fresh air.
I found the following meditation that helps rid yourself of old hurts and lingering negative memories. I especially like the part about standing in the fire while the other person turns and walks away. Check it out:
Healing The Past
Fire Meditation

Each of us has unresolved issues revolving around our relationships that linger in our souls. People don't always say or do what's right and it can seem impossible to heal that breach, particularly when that person is unresponsive or has passed away. The following fire meditation is a way to release pain and to heal a past or present relationship, or to deal with unresolved interpersonal issues. Through this type of meditation, it becomes possible to seek out reconciliation and forgiveness, as well as to rid yourself of the spiritual baggage that can come when you harbor emotional pain.

During this meditation, it can be helpful to have a partner who reads the instructions to you in a soothing voice. Or, if you prefer to meditate alone, you may want to record yourself reading the instructions and play it back when you are ready to start. Begin by finding a quiet, relaxing space. In choosing, keep in mind that you will want to have your back be as straight as possible, either by laying down on a flat surface or sitting up straight in a chair. Breathe deeply and relax your body and mind.

When you have reached a state of deep relaxation, envision the place where you feel most safe. It needn't be a real location; it can be an isolated private island, a tropical beach, or a mountain sanctuary. It can even be your own bedroom. Take the time to really see and experience your safe place. Smell the air, listen for sounds, and feel the ground under you. When you are relaxed in your surroundings, envision a road. Look down it and watch for the arrival of the person or animal you wish to make peace with. Let them come at their own pace and, when they are in full view, ask if they are willing to heal with you. If their answer is yes, look at first at yourself. How old are you? What are you wearing? How old is your companion and what do they look like?

The next step is to envision a fire. It can be in any form you wish: a camp fire, a ceremonial fire, or a bonfire. As you begin to heal, throw your baggage into the fire and ask for forgiveness or the closure you are seeking. If you wish, you can step into the fire; it will not harm you. Release everything that you no longer desire for yourself or your companion into the fire. In doing so, you may feel your body temperature rise, or you may shake a little. This is normal. Take as much time as you need with your companion. When you are finished, release them, and they will turn and walk back the way they came. Stay in your safe place for as long as you desire. When you feel comfortable, open your eyes and note the great weight that has been lifted from you.

be well
love and light
deb

[bborum]

I have started reading the Terry Goodkind series Sword of Truth. It is fantastic, the writing style is great and keeps your attention. The library has graciously agreed to order in the whole series! There are about 15 books in the series.

[MotherMoon12]

Have any of y'all read "The Sorcerers' Crossing" by Taisha Abelar?

[DaBee]

Originally posted by MotherMoon12:
Have any of y'all read "The Sorcerers' Crossing" by Taisha Abelar?

I haven't read "TSC", but googled it and found some major similarities with it and Carlos Castenadas and also Lynn V. Andrews writings. Love reading both authors, but especially Castenada. I collect Castenada books, to show what an avid fan I am. "TSC" is now certainly earmarked for future reading. Thanks for the lead on that. Also, looks like Taisha Abelar does (or did) a lecture circuit. That would be fascinating. I found info. on a translation of The Six Explanatory Propositions which were
included in the Spanish language version of the Eagle's Gift by Carlos Castaneda,but were never published in the English versions of the book. Here is that link:
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/estonia/516/6_explanatory_propostiions.html

[DaBee]

Originally posted by bborum:
I have started reading the Terry Goodkind series Sword of Truth. It is fantastic, the writing style is great and keeps your attention. The library has graciously agreed to order in the whole series! There are about 15 books in the series.

Haven't read this either, bborum. I found a site that lists the following, which was posted on 7/04. Is the 15 the totality of the series?

The books are long, on average 900 pages a piece, but the story is fast paced and the characters are likeable, especially Richard Cypher, Kahlan (the Mother Confessor) and the old grizzled wizard named Zedd.

The books in the series, thus far, are as follows:

Wizard’s First Rule – ISBN: 0-812-54805-1

Stone of Tears – ISBN: 0-812-54809-4

Blood of the Fold – ISBN: 0-812-55147-8

Temple of the Winds – ISBN: 0-812-55148-6

Soul of the Fire – ISBN: 0-812-55149-4

Faith of the Fallen – ISBN: 0-812-57639-X

The Pillars of Creation – ISBN: 0-765-34074-7

Publisher: Tom Doherty Associates, LLC – TOR Fantasy

Aren't the libraries around here great? Though the Carnegie is my favorite, I do check out the Berryville library on occasion. You can tell that 2 different people make decisions about what books will be in each library. Or that's what it seems like to me. The videos at ES are by far superior to almost any of the rental places, too. Can't beat the price, either.

[DaBee]

Native American Wisdom about life

A native American grandfather was talking to his grandson about how he felt. He said 'I feel as if I have two wolves fighting in my heart. One wolf is the vengeful, angry, violent one. The other wolf is the loving, compassionate one.' The grandson asked him, 'Which wolf will win the fight in your heart?' The grandfather answered: 'The one I feed.'

[MotherMoon12]

Taisha Abelar was taught by the females of Don Juan's group.

[PMilam]

Very interesting. I need some new reading. That series sounds like something that I could sink my eyes into!

Right now, my eyes are healing from eyelid surgery. I can get the type real big on the computer. But, reading at the moment, is a strain. I've had droopy eyelids all my life, but they have gotten obstructive. Jim Dudley has been after me to do this for several years. It is amazing, I can see a bigger picture!
It has been pretty pain free. Just have to take it a little easy.

My eldest daughter, Loretta, works at the ES library.
Books have always been her passion and it has been a wonderful blessing, that this job came available, when she came looking for work.
Say hi to her..
when you see her.. add 20 years, and you will know what I look like!

Nice to see you all here.

[bborum]

Terry Goodking

The Sword of Truth - Series Title

Wizard’s First Rule

Blood of the Fold

Temple of the Winds

Soul of the Fire

Earth of the Fallen

The Pillars of Creation

Naked Empire

Debt of Bones

Also the Wizard's Rule goes through the Ninth.
I too like Castenada. Read Don Juan but have never finished reading all of them.

[bborum]

I have the first two books out but will have at least the first back by Friday as I only have a little over 100 pages left. It is on loan from another library so you might want to reserve it. The print in the books is very small. So eyestrain does set in. But the storyline is so good that you don't want to put the book down. Almost worth investing in a good magnifying glass

[DaBee]

A Cycle Of Power
Honoring Menstruation

In the ancient past, as humanity began to move toward a patriarchal society, women were gradually deprived of the awareness of a wonderful gift. Previously, menstruation was considered a miraculous and cosmic event wherein women were strongly connected to all things spiritual. A menstruating woman was considered to be at the height of her power and was encouraged to spend time looking inward for feminine wisdom. Her menses held mana or the 'breath of life' and were a source of nourishment for the fertile soil. But as the goddesses were cast aside, women's relationship with the lunar cycles and the tides was cast aside. Menstruating women were forced to remain apart lest they infect others with their uncleanliness and their wisdom was suppressed. Contradicting today's attitudes of shame, however, is a strong movement seeking to reclaim the power of menstruation and to see it as a supreme blessing rather than a curse.

For many women, menstruation is a time of altered awareness, creativity, spirituality, and new heights of intuition. The need for solitude or rest is unjustly perceived as a weakness, when in reality it indicates a strong urge for introspection during the menstrual cycle. Perception and sensitivity are both amplified, encouraging women to challenge themselves and others. The Native American tradition states that a menstruating woman has the potential to be more spiritually powerful than any male or female at any time. Some may experience these changes during different spans of the cycle. It is not uncommon to experience a stillness and desire for quiet during the first part of the menses and extreme clarity during the latter part. In ignoring or denying such feelings, men and women alike lose touch with feminine power and the awareness of the value of menstruation.

It may be helpful to understand that menstruation is a natural time within the moon cycle to retreat from worldly concerns and to embrace transformation. Women may enter into the cycle in one way and find they emerge renewed on the other side. Harnessing the power inherent means listening to intuition, noticing unique synchronicities, and understanding the core of oneself. It is a gift from the body to the earth and from the body to the mind.

[DaBee]

Gotta share with you a morning moment with my grandson today. His name is Gehrett (I call him G) and we were just hanging out together, talking non-stop like we usually do (mainly because he has non-stop questions). We were sitting at the round oak table that his daddy grew up with and so did I. He looked up at me and said, "Grandma Bee, are you happy with your life?". I paused for a moment before answering, mainly because I was a bit speechless. I said to him, "You bet I'm happy, G. Are you happy with your life?" He said, "Yes, I am.".
http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif G is 4.

[Becky Davis]

That is about the sweetest thing I have ever hear Dabee. What a sensitive sweet little boy.
Now on to the period thing. Gal, did yo momma drap yo on yo hed?

[DaBee]

Originally posted by Becky Davis:
Now on to the period thing. Gal, did yo momma drap yo on yo hed?

Yo funny, Beck.
Actually, I hated all of that period stuff so bad and all of the stuff that went with it (I was a BT teenager (before tampons))that I used to pray that it would just go away. It just messed up my life. I was told that it happened every month as a reminder about Eve's sins in the Garden of Eden. I hated Eve. Also, my Mother told me that if I wore tampons I wouldn't be a virgin. I think my Grandma dropped my Mom on her head. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif
It all stopped when I was 27 years old. Early early early menopause. My Mom told me that it happened because I willed it to go away.
It also meant that I couldn't have any more children. I was trying to be positive about the period thing, unlike the way it was presented to me when I was young. Guess nobody buys it though, huh? I do know that whenever I've been to sweat lodges and pipe ceremonies, any woman on her cycle couldn't be touched or allowed in sweat lodges. They were too powerful for the Grandmothers and Grandfathers to deal with. So native Americans really do carry on their traditions about it. Have to admit, though, that I have never in my life heard a female say, "Oh goody, it's almost time for my period!"

[Gerthella]

Had to have an emergency hysterectomy, something I had no time to prepare for. Had no idea anything was wrong. The day I got out of the hospital I felt driven to go to Walmart and visit the tampon and pad area to say goodbye. Is that sick or sad?

[bborum]

Heard that said friends when didn't wanna be pregnant!

[Becky Davis]

My periods were always a misery with the cramps and all. I was never made to feel bad or dirty though. I was always told the truth about the reason.
But, my Grandma said the Bible said it was a curse for Eve showing out and all. Also that childbirth would be painful and miserable. Don't know what punishment the rotten Adam got. Anybody know?

[bborum]

Maybe dealing with PMS???

[DaBee]

Going back to the original intent of this thread, "Gratitudinally Speaking", I must speak with gratitude that I am alive and well today. Yesterday morning I had set out on a trip to Texas. At about 8:30 a.m., a half hour into the trip, I collided with a truck sitting on the highway (412, about 4 miles east of Huntsville). There were no brake lights, no turn signals, no movement. The lady driving was going to turn right into a drive way, but must have paused before turning. I slammed on my brakes after coming around a curve and down a hill and seeing her. This is where 2 seconds turn into slow motion....I had a choice of missing the truck and going left, but there was oncoming traffic not too far ahead and also a shear cliff for a culvert. Also, no shoulders on the road. I braced for the impact and as I hit her, she moved off the road and into the ditch. She was not hurt and the truck seemed to only have a dent in the bumper. My Rodeo isn't doing as well. I have liability and medical coverage, but nothing for repairs on my vehicle. I refused to go to the hospital, but knew that I had a whiplash because I've had several. I'm very vulnerable to whiplashes because of a major whiplash and brain stem trauma about 20 years ago. The seatbelt caused a lot of pain in my chest upon impact, but I'm just sore now. Thought I'd busted my sternum at first. Low back and hips hurt, shoulders hurt. Neck very sore and lots of headaches. BUT....I'm ok. Guess I was't suppose to go to Texas any time soon. I'd had a nagging feeling all morning and even the day before. Kept thinking it was just my ego trying to sabotage me, but if I'd been still long enough I would have realized that that wee small voice deep inside was trying to tell me something. The people that lived on 412 where the lady was turning into their driveway came down when they heard the crash. The man told me that there had been 5 wrecks just this year on that short stretch of highway and that 3 people died in those wrecks. Everyone that came up to me, including the Highway Police and EMT's said that we were very very lucky...things could have been a lot worse. Also, the Officer said that he wasn't giving me a ticket because he could tell that I wasn't speeding and it was just something that I shouldn't even worry about. I was feeling very bad about hitting the lady and apologized to her for messing up her day. Her husband told me not to worry and that she was ok. The lady at the house even went and got me a cervical collar she'd had sitting around for 20 years. Everyone was just so very unusually nice.
I am a very blessed person.
love and light and lucky stars
deb

[2100]

I, too, am grateful that you emerged well enough to tell the story!

[DaBee]

SENSITIVITY

"How shall I experience my oneness with creation?"

"By listening," said the Master.

"And how am I to listen?"

"Become an ear that gives heed to every single thing the universe is saying. The moment you hear something you yourself are saying, stop."

Anthony de Mello, SJ


Listen or thy tongue will keep thee deaf. American Indian Proverb

[PMilam]

Oh, honey! I'm so glad that you escaped without major injury! Of course those aches and pains are your inner voice talking to you, too!
Listen. Rest, listen some more.

That was a pretty drastic measure to keep you from going to TX!

It's so true, that we must listen.. even those small things.. like pick up bread... oh, I've got plenty of bread.. pick up bread.. no! Get home, find the kids have eaten every last slice.

Listen, if you want to know a secret... how does that song go?

Take it easy.

[Becky Davis]

Glad you are okay, but a whiplash is no small thing, so take care of yourself.

[DaBee]

Yep, Becky, I'm a little goofier than usual. Actually, about 3 hours after the crash I was in a room with a naturista curandera. I had just walked in the door at home when the phone rang and it was the curandera (indigenous healer). I had called a week or so earlier about some herbal therapies, massage, etc., but she wasn't there, so just left a message. I didn't hear back from her so the thought of it just slipped away from me. I have never met her nor talked to her before. She called and asked how she could help. Makes you wanna go "Hmmmmmmm", huh?
She did some cranial sacral therapy, essential oil and hot pack therapy and light massage along with Reiki. I also have some comfrey tincture and an herbal healing salve that I'm putting on the painful places. No doubt in my mind that this is what is helping me to recuperate so fast. Also, epsom salt alternating with hydrogen peroxide bath soaks each night.
OK, this is going overboard with what I'm gonna post next, but I had no idea that the Beatles recorded so many songs; 323 according to this. I don't recognize some of them, but most I do. Found this because I was looking up the words to the "listen, do you want to know a secret" lyrics you were talking about, Patt.
Think you can click on each one to get the lyrics. Here goes:

The Beatles


The Beatles - A Day In The Life
The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night
The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night (tradução)
The Beatles - A Shot of Rhythm and Blues
The Beatles - A Taste Of Honey
The Beatles - Across The Universe
The Beatles - Across the universe (tradução)
The Beatles - Act Naturally
The Beatles - Act naturally (tradução)
The Beatles - Ain't She Sweet
The Beatles - All I've Got To Do
The Beatles - All My Loving
The Beatles - All My Loving (tradução)
The Beatles - All Things Must Pass
The Beatles - All Together Now
The Beatles - All You Need Is Love
The Beatles - All You Need Is Love (Tradução)
The Beatles - AND I LOVE HER
The Beatles - And I Love Her (tradução)
The Beatles - And Your Bird Can Sing
The Beatles - Anna (Go to Him)
The Beatles - Anna (Go To Him) (tradução)
The Beatles - Another Girl
The Beatles - Any Time At All
The Beatles - Ask Me Why
The Beatles - Ask Me Why (tradução)
The Beatles - Baby It's You
The Beatles - Baby's In Black
The Beatles - Baby, You're A Rich Man
The Beatles - Back In The U.r.s.s.
The Beatles - Back In The U.S.S.R
The Beatles - Back In The Ussr
The Beatles - Bad Boy
The Beatles - Because
The Beatles - Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite!
The Beatles - Besame Mucho
The Beatles - Birthday
The Beatles - Blackbird
The Beatles - Blue Jay Way
The Beatles - Blue Suede Shoes(Medley)
The Beatles - Boys
The Beatles - Can't Buy Me Love
The Beatles - Can't Buy Me Love (tradução)
The Beatles - Carol
The Beatles - Carry That Weight
The Beatles - Chains
The Beatles - Christmas Time (Is Here Again)
The Beatles - Clarabella
The Beatles - Come and Get It
The Beatles - Come Together
The Beatles - Cry Baby Cry
The Beatles - Crying, Waiting, Hoping
The Beatles - DAY TRIPPER
The Beatles - Dear Prudence
The Beatles - Devil In Her Heart
The Beatles - Dig It
The Beatles - Dizzy Miss Lizzy
The Beatles - Do You Want To Know A Secret
The Beatles - Do You Want To Know a Secret (tradução)
The Beatles - Doctor Robert
The Beatles - Don't Bother Me
The Beatles - Don't Ever Change
The Beatles - Don't Let Me Down
The Beatles - Don't Pass Me By
The Beatles - Drive My Car
The Beatles - Eight Days A Week
The Beatles - Eleanor Rigby
The Beatles - Every Little Thing
The Beatles - Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me An
The Beatles - Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me And My Monkey
The Beatles - Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby
The Beatles - Fixing a Hole
The Beatles - Fool On The Hill
The Beatles - For No One
The Beatles - For You Blue
The Beatles - Free As A Bird
The Beatles - FROM ME TO YOU
The Beatles - Get Back
The Beatles - Getting Better
The Beatles - GIRL
The Beatles - Give Peace A Chance
The Beatles - Glad All Over
The Beatles - Glass Onion
The Beatles - Golden Slumbers
The Beatles - Good Day Sunshine
The Beatles - Good Morning, Good Morning
The Beatles - Good Night
The Beatles - Goodbye
The Beatles - Got to Get You Into My Life
The Beatles - Happiness Is A Warm Gun
The Beatles - Hello, Goodbye
The Beatles - Hello, Goodbye (tradução)
The Beatles - Hello, Little Girl
The Beatles - Help (Tradução)
The Beatles - Help!
The Beatles - Helter Skelter
The Beatles - Her Majesty
The Beatles - Here Comes The Sun
The Beatles - Here, There And Everywhere
The Beatles - Hey Bulldog
The Beatles - Hey Hey Hey Hey
The Beatles - Hey Jude
The Beatles - Hey, Jude (tradução)
The Beatles - Hippy Hippy Shake
The Beatles - Hold Me Tight
The Beatles - Honey Pie
The Beatles - Honey, Don't
The Beatles - Honeymoon Song
The Beatles - How Do You Do It?
The Beatles - I Am The Walrus
The Beatles - I am The Walrus (tradução)
The Beatles - I Call Your Name
The Beatles - I Dig a Pony
The Beatles - I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
The Beatles - I FEEL FINE
The Beatles - I Forgot to Remember to Forget
The Beatles - I Got a Woman
The Beatles - I Got to Find My Baby
The Beatles - I Just Don't Understand
The Beatles - I Me Mine
The Beatles - I Need You
The Beatles - I Saw Her Standing There
The Beatles - I Saw Her Standing There (tradução)
The Beatles - I Should Have Known Better
The Beatles - I Wanna Be Your Man
The Beatles - I Want To Hold Your Hand
The Beatles - I Want To Hold Your Hand (tradução)
The Beatles - I Want to Tell You
The Beatles - I Want You (She's So Heavy)
The Beatles - I Will
The Beatles - I'll Be Back
The Beatles - I'll Be On My Way
The Beatles - I'll Cry Instead
The Beatles - I'll Follow The Sun
The Beatles - I'll Get You
The Beatles - I'm A Believer
The Beatles - I'm a Loser
The Beatles - I'm Down
The Beatles - I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and Cry (Over You)
The Beatles - I'm Happy Just To Dance With You
The Beatles - I'm Looking Through You
The Beatles - I'm Only Sleeping
The Beatles - I'm So Tired
The Beatles - I've Got a Feeling
The Beatles - I've Just Seen a Face
The Beatles - If I Fell
The Beatles - If I Needed Someone
The Beatles - If You've Got Trouble
The Beatles - Imagine
The Beatles - Imagine (tradução)
The Beatles - In My Life
The Beatles - In My Life
The Beatles - In My Life
The Beatles - In Spite of All the Danger
The Beatles - It Won't Be Long
The Beatles - It's All Too Much
The Beatles - It's Only Love
The Beatles - Jealous Guy (tradução)
The Beatles - Johnny B. Goode
The Beatles - Julia
The Beatles - Junk
The Beatles - Kansas City
The Beatles - Keep Your Hands Off My Baby
The Beatles - Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand
The Beatles - Lady Madonna
The Beatles - Last Christmas
The Beatles - Leave My Kitten Alone
The Beatles - Lend Me Your Comb
The Beatles - Let It Be
The Beatles - Let It Be ( Tradução )
The Beatles - Like Dreamers Do
The Beatles - Little Child
The Beatles - Lonesome Tears In My Eyes
The Beatles - Long Long Long
The Beatles - Long Tall Sally
The Beatles - Look At Me
The Beatles - Los Paranoias
The Beatles - LOVE ME DO
The Beatles - Love Me Do (tradução)
The Beatles - Love You To
The Beatles - Lovely Rita
The Beatles - Lovely Rita (tradução)
The Beatles - Lucille
The Beatles - Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
The Beatles - Maggie Mae
The Beatles - Magical Mystery Tour
The Beatles - Mailman, Bring Me No More Blues
The Beatles - Martha My Dear
The Beatles - Matchbox
The Beatles - Maxwell's Silver Hammer
The Beatles - Mean Mr. Mustard
The Beatles - Mellow Yellow
The Beatles - Memphis, Tennessee
The Beatles - Michelle
The Beatles - Mind Games (tradução)
The Beatles - Misery
The Beatles - Misery (tradução)
The Beatles - Money
The Beatles - Moonlight Bay
The Beatles - Mother Nature's Son
The Beatles - Mr. Moonlight
The Beatles - My Bonnie
The Beatles - No Reply
The Beatles - Norwegian Wood
The Beatles - Not A Second Time
The Beatles - Not Guilty
The Beatles - Nothin' Shakin'
The Beatles - Nowhere Man
The Beatles - Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
The Beatles - Octopus´S Garden
The Beatles - Oh! Darling
The Beatles - Old Brown Shoe
The Beatles - One After 909
The Beatles - One And One Is Two
The Beatles - Only A Northern Song
The Beatles - Ooh! My Soul
The Beatles - P.S.I Love You
The Beatles - Paperback Writer
The Beatles - Penny Lane
The Beatles - Piggies
The Beatles - Please Mister Postman
The Beatles - PLEASE, PLEASE ME
The Beatles - Polythene Pam
The Beatles - Rain
The Beatles - Real Love
The Beatles - Revolution
The Beatles - Rip It Up
The Beatles - Rock and Roll Music
The Beatles - Rocky Raccoon
The Beatles - Roll Over Beethoven
The Beatles - Run For Your Life
The Beatles - Savoy Truffle
The Beatles - Searchin'
The Beatles - Sexy Sadie
The Beatles - Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
The Beatles - Shake, Rattle and Roll
The Beatles - She Came In Through The Bathroom Window
The Beatles - She Loves You
The Beatles - She Loves You (tradução)
The Beatles - She Said She Said
The Beatles - She's a Woman
The Beatles - Sheik of Araby
The Beatles - SHE´S LEAVING HOME
The Beatles - Shout
The Beatles - Sie Liebt Dich
The Beatles - Slow Down
The Beatles - So How Come (No One Loves Me)
The Beatles - Soldier of Love
The Beatles - Some Other Guy
The Beatles - Something
The Beatles - Something (tradução)
The Beatles - Stand By Me
The Beatles - Stand By Me (tradução)
The Beatles - Steek 'm Op
The Beatles - Step Inside Love
The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever
The Beatles - Sun King
The Beatles - Sure to Fall (In Love With You)
The Beatles - Sweet Georgia Brown
The Beatles - Sweet Little Sixteen
The Beatles - Taxman
The Beatles - Teddy Boy
The Beatles - Tell Me What You See
The Beatles - Tell Me Why
The Beatles - Thank You Girl
The Beatles - Thank You Little Girl
The Beatles - That Means a Lot
The Beatles - That'll Be The Day
The Beatles - That's All Right Mama
The Beatles - The Ballad Of John And Yoko
The Beatles - The Ballad of John and Yoko
The Beatles - The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
The Beatles - The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill
The Beatles - The End
The Beatles - The Fool On The Hill
The Beatles - The Inner Light
The Beatles - The Long And Winding Road
The Beatles - The Night Before
The Beatles - The Word
The Beatles - There's A Place
The Beatles - Things We Said Today
The Beatles - Think For Yourself
The Beatles - This Boy
The Beatles - Three Cool Cats
The Beatles - Ticket To Ride
The Beatles - Ticket to Ride (tradução)
The Beatles - Till There Was You
The Beatles - To Know Her Is To Love Her
The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows
The Beatles - Too Much Monkey Business
The Beatles - Twist And Shout
The Beatles - Twist And Shout (tradução)
The Beatles - Two of Us
The Beatles - Wait
The Beatles - We Can Work It Out
The Beatles - What Goes On
The Beatles - What You're Doing
The Beatles - What's the New Mary Jane
The Beatles - When I Get Home
The Beatles - When I'm Sixty-Four
The Beatles - While My Guitar Gently Weeps
The Beatles - Why
The Beatles - Why Don't We Do It In The Road?
The Beatles - Wild Honey Pie
The Beatles - With A Little Help From My Friends
The Beatles - With a Little Help From My Friends
The Beatles - Within You Without You
The Beatles - Words Of Love
The Beatles - Yellow Submarine
The Beatles - Yer Blues
The Beatles - Yes It Is
The Beatles - Yesterday
The Beatles - Yesterday (tradução)
The Beatles - You Can't Do That
The Beatles - You Like Me Too Much
The Beatles - You Never Give Me Your Money
The Beatles - You Really Got A Hold On Me
The Beatles - You Won't See Me
The Beatles - You'll Be Mine
The Beatles - You're Going To Lose That Girl
The Beatles - You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
The Beatles - Young Blood
The Beatles - Your Mother Should Know


[This message has been edited by DaBee (edited 03-17-2005).]

[DaBee]

Didn't work with the clicking on each song, but if you go to this site: http://the-beatles.lyrics-songs.com/lyrics/216/
you can.
Wonder if they have Herman Hermit's songs too. They were #2 to the #1 Beatles in my 16 year old mind.

For a diversion, check this out. Can anyone see what it is?
http://www.lessons4living.com/labyrinth_stereogram2.htm

[This message has been edited by DaBee (edited 03-17-2005).]

[Jeannie Jones]

Well, how wonderfully active GJ has become again! New people, too! I have a lot of reading to do to catch up.

Many of you know our friend, Nafalia. Some know her only from the posts I transcribed for her, due to her EXTREME low vision. For the old-timers out there, she is Nancy Garcia, who used to manage the Hi-Hat, and several other businesses in town long ago. She was married to Phil Miller at that time, very intelligent biker. She came back to Eureka about 9 years ago, and opened up "Nancy's Closet" on Main St., across from "Eureka Live", and downstairs from my apt. We met and became friends right in that moment.

Nancy had some bleeding a few days ago, and on Tuesday the 15th (beware the Ides of March), a proctoscopy revealed a polyp, which was removed and sent for biopsy. On the 17th, St. Pat's Day, the biopsy results showed malignancy. She has a surgeon's appt. Monday at 9 AM. He may or may not hospitalize her right then. ASAP, he'll open her up and see what's there. He may just remove a part of the colon and sew her back together.

Nancy has suffered from extreme attacks of vertigo on a daily basis for the past 8 years, getting worse over time. At the same time, she grew spiritually by leaps and bounds. The most recent diagnosis, after MANY tests, and a difficult (her spine is very fragile, too) bus trip alone to KC to Barnes Hospital, (using her white cane) was "migrainous positional vertigo". She remembered last night that the first neurologist she saw, 8 yrs. ago, told her that colon cancer may cause vertigo, in listing possible diagnoses.

If the cancer is contained, and removing a portion of the colon may take care of it safely, then her vertigo may stop, which would be a great blessing. If not, 2 trusted people are authorized to have her choice carried out, which would be to just sew her back up and let her live out her days in peace. We believe that we write our own script before we re-enter this physical reality, and she sure has written a dramatic one!

So I ask your prayers for my dear friend at this time. This is a, shall I say, WORLD-wide prayer circle, and it can be even stronger with your support.

I wanted to share this with Deb, and possibly the GJ and BTG, but I would think of it late at night, and forget about it during the day, when I could ask her permission. Today she told me that Mtn. View Steve had posted (thanks, Steve, thanks Patt,) so that was a great reminder for me. I asked her specifically what I could share, and with whom, and she said "all of it".

So there we are.

As above, so below,

Jeannie

PS--Hi, 2100 http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Jeannie Jones]

Greetings and salutations from Nafalia~~~

I've been long away from here, but in my absence I have experienced much and grown a great deal. Let me say to my beloved friends Jeannie and Steve, "thank you" (love is sufficient unto itself).

As we age, it comes to our attention in a more real and valid way, that we have only precious moments to live in our lifetime (so let's not waste any more).

I now find myself facing what could be my greatest challenge, but I choose to see it as my greatest achievement.

Yes, it is true that on Thursday I was told I had colon cancer. To what extent or degree, I will not know until this coming Monday when I see the surgeon. The extent or degree is not what I'm writing about.

What I want to get across to everyone is this: because of beloved friends that I have been gifted with, there is truly a world-wide collective consciousness being focused to send me healing light and energy. How could one not be comforted in knowing this? What a gift I have been given.

To all who have willingly sent loving thoughts to me, I feel your love and caring, for that IS the healing energy.

I will not express in words what this means to me, for Spirit's first form of communication is "feeling".

So what I feel, that I send to you, is as real as what you are sending to me.

As we will it, so shall it be,

Nafalia

[DaBee]

As the light of the silvery moon lifts and falls over ocean waves, the light is carried, wave by wave, to an island of pure earth energy.
The light is absorbed into the earth, which then manifests through the opening portal, carrying the moon and its silvery light to fall through, breaking into millions of tiny light particles.
These silvery particles are dancing around Nafalia's whole auric light and carried inside, all at once, to bathe her body, mind, and soul in the spiraling, never-ending million pieces of light that brings peace and tranquility and ease and comfort. The light brings to you, dear Nafalia, anything that you choose.
love and light
deborah

[Jeannie Jones]

How very beautiful! She wanted to write to you personally, Deb, but we didn't get to it today. I'll read this to her tomorrow (Saturday).

Loving you always,

Jeannie

[DaBee]

Indian Masters wisdom

A great party was in progress.

It was a wonderful party, everything was
perfect, and all the guests were happily enjoying themselves.

Around midnight a crazy gatecrasher sneaked into the house and joined the celebration.

He approached the host and said, 'What a boring party! What a suffocating atmosphere!'

He went on and on about what a terrible party it was in such a convincing way that, finally, the host began to be persuaded.

He forgot how much he had been enjoying himself until now and became convinced that it really was a terrible party.

He even forgot that he himself was the host! So he said to the gatecrasher, 'You're
absolutely right. It's awful! Let's go somewhere else.'

'Yes,' said the gatecrasher. 'I will organize a fantastic party - it will be my party, and you will be my guest.'

The gatecrasher began to promise him all
sorts of wonderful, enticing things.

They left the party together and went to the gatecrasher's house.

It was a dreary place - ugly, dirty, and lifeless, and no one else was there.

But the crazy gatecrasher, believing his own illusions of grandeur, kept trying to persuade his guest that the gloomy house was a beautiful mansion and that they were about to enjoy themselves at any moment.

'The fun will soon begin,' he kept saying. But nothing happened.

In the beginning the man believed
him, but then he suddenly returned to his senses.

'Wait a moment!' he exclaimed.

'What is it?' said the gatecrasher, looking worried.

'Oh no!' exclaimed the man. 'What am I doing here in this horrible place? I have
forgotten that I am the host of that other wonderful party - that it is my home! I have forgotten how much I was enjoying myself there.'

Ignoring the gatecrasher's protests, the
man walked out through the door and hurried back to his own house.

All his friends were still there having a great time; they hadn't even noticed he was gone.

He smiled at them and happily rejoined the celebration.

My children, the entire human race is in a similar position.

People have forgotten who they are.
We are supposed to be living in our own wonderful home, where we belong, enjoying the splendid celebration of life and creation.

Like the host in the story, we are, in fact, the center of it all, but we do not know it.

Something has gone terribly wrong.

The ego has sneaked in and has lured us into a state of utter forgetfulness, a state of unconsciousness.

We have forgotten that we are the host of a glorious celebration.

Instead, as if sleepwalking, we have left to join the ego, the 'crazy gatecrasher', at his non-existing party.

The ego is an outsider.

But we, the host, the real center of the wonderful 'party', around whom the whole play of creation is taking place, have forgotten the truth about our real Self.

We have mistakenly attached ourselves to the ego, the impostor, identifying with the ego and its distorted views.

We need to wake up from our stupor and remember that we are the 'host', the very
center of creation.

Then, we, too, will exclaim, 'Oh no, what am I doing here? I have forgotten that I am the host of that party! That is my home! I have completely forgotten how much I was enjoying myself over there!'

Then you will not waste another moment.

You will rush back to your real home, and remain within your blissful, joyful Self.

Mahant Machendra Puriji

[Jeannie Jones]

Originally posted by DaBee:
Yo funny, Beck.
Actually, I hated all of that period stuff so bad and all of the stuff that went with it (I was a BT teenager (before tampons)}...


Oh, yeah, Deb. (Boys, don't read this.) I always thought it was like I was wearing a sandwich in my panties! And, of course, you couldn't swim, so if you were with people and they were in the water, everybody knew that you had your period, so I just didn't go.

Then in high school, at least where I lived, no self-respecting girl would go out without her girdle on. Had to have it to stop the jiggles, and needed the garters to hold up our stockings. Couldn't wear slacks to school back then.

Group showers! How excruciating! We were all supposed to be naked in front of each other, where nowhere else in our personal life we would even think of doing that! I just thought it was awful, and after a while I just kinda said I had my period all the time.

The school I went to in 6th grade had a GREAT shower area. There were individual stalls that were covered with aqua ceramic tile. One was exposed from the shoulders or neck on up, and the knees on down, but let's see--don't recall if there was an actual door or not, but if someone were coming by, you could retreat to a corner or something. That's the only school I went to that was set up that way, though.

Well, Deb, that was a heckuvan accident! Yeah--that lo-o-o-o-ong 2 seconds. Have you had x-rays or an MRI of neck since then? I think we're right in the middle of something huge happening planet-wise. Seems like the more we're taken out of our comfort zone the more and the faster we grow. Fasten your seatbelts, I think we're in the midst of a really bumpy ride.

Is your hand surgery still on the 24th, Deb, or has it been postponed from all the bumps and chaos? (Maybe you've said that above and I missed it.) Yeah, it may have been Becky or Patt who said that maybe you shouldn't be thinking about going to Texas for a little while now.

So here you go through all this stuff, plus dealing with your regular conditions, and STILL come up with such gorgeous, uplifting quotes, and the visualization for Nafalia and all. My hat's off to ya, gal. You're a rare one. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif

(Oh, and yeah, yo funny, Beck! http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif )



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[DaBee]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jeannie Jones:
[B] Oh, yeah, Deb. (Boys, don't read this.)
I enjoyed reading every single word of your post, Jeannie. My thoughts are with NancyNafalia this morning with much healing light and a touch of Reiki. To you, also, Jeannie. I haven't heard you mention how you are feeling lately. I just know that you're the most wonderfulest http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif friend in the world....just ask Nafalia. To your Mom, also. And to the wierd twisted light Steve in which I am always sensing his presence, just a smidge beyond my reach. I feel that everytime we think of each other we send light to that other person. I sense that when reading posts, especially on this thread. Jeannie, please let us know how Nafalia is doing this morning.
My neck and I have been through a lot together and I knew that there would be nothing that they could do when I had the wreck. Well, except do a bunch of x-rays, give me some pain pills and put on a neck collar and charge me a zillion dollars that I don't have. The cervical collar that the lady gave me helped, but the main pain easer was the healing medicine woman's fine touch with me. I knew that after that I'd feel pretty sore all over; which I kinda still am. Thing is, my pre-op exam is on Wednesday. It includes a cervical spine x-ray, ekg, chest x-ray and blood work. I was a bit concerned about the seat belt pains, especially my sternum, but it's all fading. And I am very awake! Paying attention! Listening and watching and sensing signs and levels of vibration. I sure agree about being taken from my comfort zone...and I'm already experiencing a bumpy ride http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/eek.gif ! Actually, Jeannie, I'm kinda on the edge of my seat with the changes. My life sure is a-changing. Will tell you all about that later.
Funny now, but back then it was excruciating what we had to go through with our young womanhood. I played competitive tennis and that little triangle shaped metal or plastic thingey on the ick belt that held the ends of the pad, would dig into my tailbone area and would make me squeak and squeal when I sat down or started sweating. I was a real tough, hard driven competitive singles tennis player, but that one little spot could slow me down a bit. Also, being on the tennis team and holding my #1 singles rank in a Texas high school 4-4A ranked team (yes, I know...bragging a bit, but I haven't told anyone about this in a very long time) ........anyway, it guaranteed me an individual shower stall and dressing room. Remember seeing those gang shower when I was a freshman and realizing that I had to think of something to do real quick... I joined the tennis team.
Tomorrow we'll be leaving (my son and 2 grandchildren) for Little Rock and try to take the kids (it's spring break in berryville where the kids go to school, but not in alpina where chrystal teaches) to the IMAX, a pioneer museum, possibly the planatarium, etc. My pre-op in Wed a.m. and surgery is Thursday a.m. Of course we'll be heading straight home after the surgery. Grandma Bee gets pretty wierd after surgery....they use some kind of amnesia anesthesia. Last time I was like a motor mouth saying wacky things....so they tell me. I don't remember a thing. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif
Again, good to hear from you AND Nafalia and everybody else that has been joining in lately. Y'all keep it up while I'm gone, ya' hear?!
love and light and waxing moons
deb-o-lunartic

[DaBee]

a day late, but it's an inspiring piece to read anyway:

Life Begins Anew
First Days Of Spring

Tender, green shoots break through the earth and tiny buds suddenly appear on naked branches. Mountain snows melt to feed streams and creeks with their life force. Lambs, piglets, calves, bunnies, chicks, ducklings and so many more babes are born at this time of year. And for one day there is a perfect balance of daylight and darkness. It is during the Vernal Equinox, the first day of Spring when life begins anew.

The air itself seems new this time of year. Washed by spring rains, the palate is cleaned to be filled with the fragrance of new blossoms, fresh water, and pungent soil. Even the sun leaves its scent on clothes hung outside, dried by warm, brisk winds. Like ponies that shed their winter coats, we too begin to peel off the layers that kept us insulated through the winter months. It is now time to bring dreams out of hibernation. We have winter to thank for the insights gained during long, dark nights of introspection. Seeds planted then, give life to thoughts, ideas, wishes, desires, and new goals.

Nature adorns herself in unabashed glory at this time of year. She pulls out every color in her wardrobe from the brightest yellow to the softest pink, throwing in orange, blue, lavender and every shade of green she owns. Spring offers us the opportunity to shed our inhibitions, to be more bold and open to what life has to offer. Put on a bright, colorful smile and charm the world like the newborns, we are young again, no matter our age. Our heart wants to sing, our soul to dance, and our mind to run wild.

The world awakens in Spring and awakens our spirit of renewal, because Spring is the promise that life not only goes on, but that it begins over and over. Seeds become plants and flowers, animals give birth to their young, even the barren desert blossoms with wild flowers. Spring is a time to reinvent ourselves. We can give birth to a new life for ourselves and start fresh. All a tiny seed needs to sprout is soil, sun, and rain. All we need is a willing heart. During these first days of Spring, know that you are in perfect balance and give yourself the nutrients to not only grow, but to blossom in all your glory.

[DaBee]

Indian Masters wisdom

I was free and I had shrunk.

I was so tiny, almost like a minute particle of dust.

Everything was within me.

The whole Universe was inside me.

Light beings disappeared and new ones appeared.

We were linked together with connecting radiating beams.

We were as one.

We are all connected with each other.

If we only realised how closely we are connected, we would never be able to hurt each other.


Shanti Devi

[DaBee]

Surgery went fine. Thanks for all of the positive thoughts.

Jeannie - please let us know how Nafalia is doing. I was thinking of her the whole time I was in Little Rock.

love and light/
deb

[mtnviewsteve]

http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif
Glad you are well and everything went OK, "little sister LIGHT" good reading ya' been posting.Blessing from Above & Below.
http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif
TwIsTeDlIgHtMaNiAcStEvE
P.S. Think I heard Nafalia scheduled for appointment w/surgion Wed. Only cancer they found was in small section of colon.
"Blessed Be"

[DaBee]

Originally posted by mtnviewsteve:
http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif
Blessing from Above & Below.
http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif"Blessed Be"

Thanks for the info on Nafalia, TLMsTeVe.
Also, thanks for the blessings.
I think sometimes of the pictures that I had of the "secret" cave from back when we first started communicating. I've changed computers because of a virus and have lost that link. Do you happen to have it? It was intrigueing.
Rec'd. this from the Indian Master today and it made me pay attention...think I need to do a little waking up:

Indian Masters wisdom

Procrastination, forgetfulness, laziness and sleep -

these four form the coveted ship which bears men to their destined ruin.


Thirukkural

Thinking about it though, do you feel it is a bit harsh? Guess I just don't like the term "destined ruin".

Anybody reading this have thoughts about it?

[Becky Davis]

Tell her to drink some green tea leaves. Not the tea brewed. Dump the leaves in a little bit of water and down the hatch. Won't hurt to try this. It will make her feel better and the chinese say it helps.

[Jeannie Jones]

Originally posted by DaBee:

...I think sometimes of the pictures that I had of the "secret" cave from back when we first started communicating...Do you happen to have it? It was intrigueing...


I looked for "the cave" pix, couldn't find them, but did find the website you had found them in. Here's a link:

http://www.tdrinc.com/architecture.html

Glad your surgery went well. I sure was with you on it.

Haven't communicated much lately. Soon will send more info. on Nafalia.

Love to you and all,

Jeannie

[DaBee]

Thanks, Jeannie. All of these architectural designs are amazing, but it's the ecological house of the future that really catches my mind.
Positive thoughts and healing light to both you and Nafalia.


Becky..on the green tea, you actually eat or swallow the leaves? Happy Easter to you and yours.
love and light
deb

[Becky Davis]

I do.

[Becky Davis]

I just open the tea bag and put them in a little cold water and swallow them. You can also cook with it and add it to recipes using the brewed tea or the leaves just like oregano or any other herb. It is good with shrimp or salads.

[Jeannie Jones]

Walking the Walk With Nafalia:

Two weeks ago today my world turned upside down, and I'm still trying to get it back in an upright position.

A week ago today I saw the surgeon, and he did a group of tests on an emergency basis. He did a complete blood profile workup, mineral and trace elements profile workup, and then some special blood test to see if there was cancer anywhere else in my body. The doctor also did a visual colon exam with a flashlight! http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/eek.gif

Then I was shipped over to the nuclear medicine department, looking for the primary source. No stone was left unturned. First I had a bi-lateral chest x-ray. Then the surgeon had ordered what they call a tri-scan. I was given a radioactive cocktail to drink, and a radioactive enema, and the dye was injected in my veins. For about 1 hour from my neck to my pelvis was scanned, to locate the primary source, and rule out cancer in any other part of my body.

Voila! Primary source located in the colon. That was on Monday. On Wednesday I got the phone call that all the tests has come back ready to go forward with procedures.

The remainder of the week was pretty quiet.

Monday seems to be the day. 2 weeks ago today this all started. This day I have been on the phone with 4 doctors 5 times, or 5 doctors 4 times, all doctors are in agreement (this seldom happens!) that chemo and radiation are my best chances to rid myself of this cancer.

On April 5 at 8:30 AM, I will once again be admitted to the hospital for the day (?) for the final test to be done, which is an ultra-sound scope which they insert up into the rectum into the colon area. I'm going to be put to sleep in a surgical suite, and that's where the test will be performed.

The person who goes to the hospital with me that day, must stay in the building, because this test carries some risk.

The oncologist, when he gets the results of this test, combined with all the other tests that have already been completed, will tell me on my first visit with him, the type of chemo/radiation, how much, how long, how often, and what to expect.

Before the treatments begin, I (we) must attend a class for chemo and radiation, so that we will know what to expect and what to look for, and, if need be, when it's time to return to the hospital, if an emergency occurs.

All you beautiful, wonderful Lightworkers, I know you're out there, and I know you're working on this, so keep those cards and letters comin' in, folks, because they're getting the big guns out now! http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif

Loving you all always,

Nafalia

P.S. I must say that these have been some of the most undignified tests I've ever experienced in my life! http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/eek.gif

[Becky Davis]

You probably don't want sympathy...but what the heck. I am so sorry you are having to go through this. Especially those rigorous humiliating tests. Girl you are a fighter and have survived some stuff that would have done the rest of us in. I truly believe God is not done with you yet. So when you feel despair, hopefully you can draw some strength from the prayers folks are saying for you. Because we really are you know.

[DaBee]

Yes, Nafalia, we really are.
I appreciate you sharing yourself with us. When I was having my hand surgery last week, they gave me a type of amnesia anesthesia. During the 1st surgery that I had about 10 months ago, I don't remember anything, but this most recent one was different. I do remember having some type of realization that I was not alone. I thought of you and knew you were there, just as I am there with you now...and a lot of other folks also.
love and light
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

"Toast and baking soda from Nafalia" http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/confused.gif

So as not to lose our sense of humor, here's a little story before we begin the other stuff.

While talking to Jeannie on the phone, I felt it was a good time to do a post. So I said to Jeannie, "should I post and bring everyone up to date?".

So Jeannie's hearing not always being the best in the world, she thought I said I was going to eat "toast and baking soda", with such surprise in her voice! http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Needless to say, we're rofl now! Best laugh we've had in a long time. Between my eyes and Jeannie's hearing, things do tend to get a bit muddled. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif

The post is really concerning the latest update on the chemo/radiation situation. Got a call from the oncologist's office today, and the visit with him will be on March 6 at 4:30. He will have all the test results, including the ultra-sound that will have been done on the previous day.

At this point, he will lay out the chemo/radiation game plan to me, and what can be expected. All that will be left then is the 1-hour chemo class, and shortly after that point, the treatments will begin.

This is all the news that I'll probably have until after the 6th. After that point, when the treatments begin, my communications with you all will be left up to Jeannie and Steve, because I probably won't be feeling too well. With all the fast and furious changes that have taken place, and trying to keep up with everything and run my everyday life, get all of my arrangements made for aftercare with the American Cancer Society and other agencies, needless to say, I'm physically tired, and mentally exhausted.

Felt I wanted to get this post in tonight to all the loved ones out there. Jeannie and Steve will be doing the updating from this point on.

First of all, whether it be "toast and baking soda", or just a good old-fashioned laugh-out-loud, everybody hold on to that humor, for laughter does heal, along with love.

I know that words are not necessary to say "thank you", but allow me just to put into words how much I love and thank you all very much.

As above, so below,

Nafalia

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[Becky Davis]

I don't know if I would want amnesia anethestic. The last time I was in for stents, the anethesia took me back into an entirely different time. I was a housewife in the forties or thirties with an entirely name and family. Extremely weird. Had the old cars and women with curlers in their hair sitting around drinking coffee in the morning..strange, but a good dream. I kept going back to then and coming back to the present.

[DaBee]

Originally posted by Becky Davis:
I don't know if I would want amnesia anethestic. The last time I was in for stents, the anethesia took me back into an entirely different time. I was a housewife in the forties or thirties with an entirely name and family. Extremely weird. Had the old cars and women with curlers in their hair sitting around drinking coffee in the morning..strange, but a good dream. I kept going back to then and coming back to the present.

The good thing about the amnesia that I had was that during surgery they could put me under a little deeper through the IV so that they could do some more aggressive procedure. They deadened the hand so that when I was awake I wouldn't feel anything. The best thing is that within an hour in recovery, I was groggy, but ready to leave. Doesn't seem like I was asleep enough to have any kind of dream, just a personal awareness that there were loving "others" around me and I felt comfort and ease.
That is a cool dream that you had, Becky. Makes you wonder about a lot of things, huh? Wonder what Sylvia Brown would say about it?
The curlers in the hair reminded me of back in the 50's and 60's especially when you'd always see gals with rollers in their hair. I have a picture back in the early 70's when my son was about 2...I was holding him on my hip, standing next to my Grandpa - - with huge curlers in my hair. I have curly hair and always wanted it to be straight, so I'd glob on the Dippity Do and put these 4" diameter rollers all over my head. I had no qualms about going about my day in town shopping or anywhere. Sometimes now I see little old ladies with the little black rollers with sticky things in them poking out and a little pink stick to hold them in, plus always a pretty scarf wrapped around the whole thing and tied in back. I just wonder what has changed that most of us don't go out in public like that. Possibly one reason is that it is rare that any of us use rollers any more. I don't see how my sisters or myself ever even slept on them, but we did!

[DaBee]

Originally posted by Jeannie Jones:
[B]"Toast and baking soda from Nafalia" http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/confused.gif
Felt I wanted to get this post in tonight to all the loved ones out there. Jeannie and Steve will be doing the updating from this point on.
First of all, whether it be "toast and baking soda", or just a good old-fashioned laugh-out-loud, everybody hold on to that humor, for laughter does heal, along with love.
B]

Thanks to Jeannie and Steve for keeping us updated about Nafalia. Will all of this be happening in Springfield?
Can't say that I'll be trying out toast and baking soda any time soon, but it sure made for a good laugh. There are times when I repeat back to my Grandchildren what I thought I heard them say....it always makes for a good time and lots of giggles. Of course, sometimes I get a little theatrical with it, and before you know it, we've got a real doozy of a story going!

[PMilam]

Blessings, Nafalia, in and out, and up and down, and all around.. Blessings, blessings, blessings.

And.. love, love love.

Patt

[DaBee]

Hello to Jeannie and Steve....
Just wondering if you've heard anything back from Nafalia. She's been on my mind a lot, especially yesterday and today.
Love and healing light to you, Nafalia
love and light to all,
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

Yes, Deb, she's had yet another test today, and that coupled with what the oncologist told her on their visit Wednesday, the site and extent are known for sure. I believe that Nafalia will want to post for herself, maybe tomorrow.

She'll be going to Barnes Hospital in St. Louis for a second opinion and perhaps treatment, but she's having a really rough time getting transportation that she can count on. Without that, she'd have to go and return alone, on the bus again, with her blind cane, and her frail little self.

I'm asking for prayers for not only her health, but for dependable transportation to St. Louis for her also, other than the http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/eek.gif bus.

Love to all, and as Nafalia would say,

Keep them cards and letters comin', folks. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Jeannie Jones]

Word from Nafalia:

Deb-o-moonbeamlight, was just talking with Jeannie and she read me your post, so I thought I would give you a quick reply and update as to what's been going on.

Deb, probably the reason I was on your mind yesterday and today was because yesterday I had the endoscope ultra-sound (what a rough test that one was!) The test lasted for a little over an hour.

I was sedated, but not completely out. It is a very painful test. They found a small area where the colon itself has thickened, which is cancer, and it is outside of the primary source, which is the anus. At that location, it's only 1 centimeter in size (it's that little mustard seed thing), but that didn't tell them how deep it was. Yesterday's ultra-sound told them that.

Before the ultra-sound I was in stage 1. After what they found in yesterday's test, I don't know if that will change.

The oncologist tells me that the cancer is not what's making me so fatigued, that it's the constant vertigo doing that. I can understand that statement, because with all the testing, the vertigo is like super-active, but at the same time, I find it difficult to believe that the body is fighting cancer and it doesn't tire it. (But I'm just the patient, what the hell do I know?) http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif

The type of cancer I have is coacogenic. It is very rare. Only about 4,000 new cases a year are reported, as compared to 140,000 colon cancers a year.

Dr. Weston told me yesterday that they've only known about this type of cancer for about 30 years, and with so few cases of it, they don't have a lot of knowledge about it, but are gaining more every day.

He stated that for the first 20-25 yrs., they would go in and remove the cancer surgically, and then do chemo and radiation therapy, but by doing it that way, they had to leave the patient with a colostomy. So they reversed the process, and did chemo and radiation first, and have found that they have to do less surgery that way.

There are 6 specialists involved in my cancer team here in Springfield. The oncologist I saw on Wednesday has called in a communicable disease specialist, because I have histoplasmosis, which is what took my central vision.

With chemo there's a chance that the histo will be reactivated, and could destroy the rest of my eyesight. It could also activate it in my respiratory system again, which could lead to major complications, with the histo turning into pneumonia.

The oncologist said that the greatest side-effects I would experience from this chemo/rad. therapy would be extreme fatigue.

Since I'm already in such a weakened state, and in a constant state of fatigue, this was of concern to him.

Since March 15 when this began, (seems like 50 yrs. ago) it's just been one doctor and test after the other.

I will not agree to starting treatment until I've made my trip to Barnes Hospital for another opinion, away from Springfield, and a much more advanced medical center.

So, at this point, all of my records, pictures, slides and scans are en route to the Siteman Cancer Center in St. Louis

I've already spoken with the coordinator there. As soon as all my info. is in her hands, it will be given to their doctors there, and a cancer team will be put together for me there. Sharon, the coordinator, told me that within 1 week after they got all my records, I'd have an appt. there. So I expect that week-after-next, Greyhound and I will go to St. Louis.

Depending on what I learn there, will make up my mind as to whether I accept or refuse treatment.

There are many things I must consider here, 1. being the possible loss of the rest of my eyesight if the histo. flares up, 2. being the lack of help at home, and 3. being my refusal to be put into a "home", even on a temporary basis.

As I told my oncologist, I've been fighting battles all my life, and there are just so many battles that one person can fight in a lifetime, alone. And that's where I left it.

So, Deb-o-moonbeam-light, not much else I can tell you at this point, 'cause I don't know any more, except that I love you all for all the energy and love and light that you are sending.

Let Peace begin, and let it begin with me,

Peace always,

Always Peace,

Nafalia

P.S. Doctors love to play word games. They speak of chemo and radiation as a "program", and the "stage" of your cancer. Makes it sound like you're going to the theater! http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif Of course, I would notice these things, because I play with words so much myself. But reading between the lines, it's still cancer, and it's still chemo and radiation. Keep those cards and letters coming in, folks.

[Becky Davis]

Hope you are feeling better Nafalgia. Still sending those mini prayers out to you. I am so sorry the vertigo is still plaqueing you. I wish you relief.

[Gaylord Wright]

Hey, Jeannie, this is Jim & Brent, we think of you often, and miss you, just heard about
your challenges. Wish you only love and light. I'm remembering those wonderful days
of theatre with ESP, and all the fabulous
fun we had. The poem I sent to you in Russia,
and your diligence to make sure it was read.
Thank you for all your kindness and consideration, and one of the best minds the
world can offer. Love, Jim & Brent

[Jeannie Jones]

Well, Jim and Brent, how lovely to hear from you. Thanks for the kind words. There's nothing like a road trip, like ours to Jonesboro to the theater competition, to get to know each other better.

I think there may be some confusion here, though. Often people think that Nafalia is someone I channel, or a new name of mine. Not so. Nafalia is the pen name of my dear friend, Nancy Garcia, who is nearly blind. When she wishes to post something, she calls me from Springfield, and with the phone on my shoulder, I type the message for her.

Some pages ago, I spoke of her history in Eureka (including having managed the High Hat Bar), and most recently, she had a shop on Main St. across from Eureka Live, called Nancy's Closet. I lived upstairs.

Anyway, I've finally managed to put pictures of us in Kodak's photo gallery, and here's the link:

http://www.adobe.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=y9wx6wa.sgnkdf6&x=1&y=qxhs5z

You have to sign the guestbook to see them, but hopefully you won't mind that.

Nafalia's tests from Friday have now changed her status to Stage 2 cancer, with a 60-65% survival rate, so prayers are still requested.

Although I do have my own health challenges, they're not on the same level as hers.

Much love to you, Jim and Brent, and to anyone else who may be reading this,

Jeannie

P.S. Please feel free to e-mail me privately at any time, if you wish.


[This message has been edited by Jeannie Jones (edited 04-12-2005).]

[DaBee]

Hi Jeannie and Nafalia....
Yesterday morning right at the end of a big bad storm that blew through here, I was online, typing a long, long response to you. Suddenly I was kicked offline. Put the letter on Notepad and waited to be able to get back on. Nothing doing...come to find out, my modum was fried. So now I'm on a different computer (actually, my old one) that Chrystal (d-i-l) worked on all day. And today is her birthday! A whopping 31! It was just so nice of her to do this on her special day, even though I told her she didn't have to, she said that she felt so bad that I didn't have my communication, she just had to. Guess what I'm trying to say is that the letter will be on that old computer for a long time, but no way I can get it to you.
I just wanted to let you know that if I had a vehicle I'd drive you to St. Louis. Hope you don't have to take a bus, but no matter what, you're not alone. There's lots of us light workers (whether we know it or not) there with you. Feel our presence; it is real.
I'll try to put my thinking cap on and remember what I wrote about, but just suffice it to say that I've been thinking about you. There is one quote from a Ruiz book that I had typed out. Maybe I'll get that written out again tomorrow.
Sweet dreams.
love and light/
deb
p.s......hi to Jim and Brent; good to hear from y'all.

[Becky Davis]

Hey Dabee, did you get your puter problems solved? Haven't heard in a few days. Timm says you got your "grass monkey". Don't overdue the old bod getting it in. It will get tall and thick with purple seed sticks on it. You don't have to plant it thick either. It will thicken up by next year and you'll have more than you know what to do with.
Thinking of you Nafalgia..prayer sent your way. Hope you are not suffering today and your vertigo is better.

[DaBee]

Computer is going, but moving along at a turtle's speed, Becky. A few kinks to still work out, but it'll get back to snuff.
I was getting the brass monkey off of Timm's driveway when he drove up. He musta spooked the crazy thing, 'cause that darned monkey started running around the yard and I had quite a time catching up with him. Finally cornered him on the porch. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif
Gonna plant him in my new bed today...the outside one. Your kindness and sharing is appreciated. Do you have more like him where he came from? Guess this'll do me as, like you say, brass monkeys are quite prolific.
I have the pot that you put him in and Timm said that I could give it back to you when I head down that way to do some crystal digging.
You coming up the Eureka way any time soon?
love and light and fairy tale delight!
deb

[DaBee]

A Matter Of Choice
The Law Of Attraction

One of the most wonderful abilities we have is the ability to make choices. We can choose to think positive thoughts or negative thoughts. Likewise, we can make an effort to ensure all our actions contribute to positive outcomes or we can convince ourselves that negative outcomes are inevitable. Such choices can then have a profound affect on your life, for they are the seeds you sow in the universe. Your words and deeds, even the thoughts kept hidden in your mind, contribute to your experience by attracting similar words, deeds, and thoughts because of the Law of Attraction. It is a natural law, as easy to understand as "like begets like" or "what you sow, so shall you reap." It means that what you give to the universe will come back to you, giving you a huge measure of control over the direction and quality of your own life.

If you are patient, you will no doubt be able to see the Law of Attraction at work in your own life. To give a simple example, a smile freely given to a stranger or coworker often nets a smile in return, while a scowl directed at the same individual will most likely cause them to scowl back. On a larger scale your thoughts, feelings, and reactions to people and situations subtly change your aura. These changes in energy can act like a magnet, pulling similar energy to you, be it positive or negative. As you walk your path, you can use the Law of Attraction to help you create the life you want to live by making a conscious decision to emit positive energy. If you are experiencing unpleasantness at home or work, perhaps analyze your own treatment of others. If you find yourself under a great deal of stress, ask yourself if you have been focusing on the expectation of stress. Remember that your thoughts, too, can attract positive or negative outcomes.

Will you choose to focus on beauty, peace, happiness, and love, or to dwell on the faults of others or the world? It's up to you. Because of the Law of Attraction, your focus can easily become your destiny. Learning to alter your reality by attracting only positive people and situations, or, indeed, anything you desire, will open an infinite number of doors.

[Becky Davis]

Very nice and calming post Dabee.

[Jeannie Jones]

(Message from Nafalia in Springfield, not Jeannie in Rogers) http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Nafalia--chemo/radiation--NOT!

Let us now put our focus on the alternative for our healing process & release the traditional way as we are not of the traditional world or of the traditional way of thinking.

We are the alternative of all things. We have the faith which gives the power of the alternative world of " SPIRIT ". We are the answer to that which has failed in the traditional world on all levels .

We are the manifestation of the total sum of all that " SPIRIT " is. We are the answer to all we have gained in many life times now coming into manifestation.

We are the vessel through which " SPIRIT " continues to bring about the necessary changes to become as we were before we became the programmed minds we could/would have been if we had not questioned the traditional teachings of society.

We are " SPIRIT " come to earth to experience, learn, share, teach, heal, and bring the unanswered questions answers. We are the vision others lack because we know that sight is not a physical thing but the insight of the vision of " SPIRIT ".

We are all things/souls/people of all times manifesting in the " NOW " . We are the " ALPHA & OMEGA " at the same time. We are being given the opportunity at this moment to find what we have been searching for, in many life times. We can choose to take the alternative ways or remain in the traditional.

I choose the alternative, as I remembered that I've always known the alternative was where the hidden secrets/mysteries were brought into clarity. I chose for me, as you can choose for you.

DO NOT ASK ME WHERE THIS COMES FROM. I JUST SAT DOWN AT MY COMPUTER & THIS IS WHAT WAS WRITTEN ~~~ I'M MERELY A VESSEL FOR THIS MESSAGE.

So mote it be,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

I'm so very grateful for the things that we, as Americans, take for granted. Is the glass half full or half empty? Hey, we've got WATER! It pours out of our faucets, our showers, we can trap it for a bath, and it swirls 'round in our commodes, most of which are indoors.

We have gas or electric power, allowing us to prepare our food indoors, to be warm or cool, and to heat our water. I'm really grateful for that, too.

Five senses make this physical existence so very pleasing and joyful (even though I wear glasses and hear better when I can see someone's lips move). http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif

What would we do without beloved friends and family? We learn, we teach, we act as mirrors for each other. We comfort, amuse, and sometimes befuddle each other. And if the love is unconditional, we will still be there for each other.

Late night thoughts of gratitude.

[DaBee]

Jeannie, I have to always remind myself to live in the moment. When I can focus on that and leave the past memories and future possibilities in their rightful place, my life is much more serene and full of awe (I would say aweful, but that just doesn't sound right :eek http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif.
When I try to only deal with chopping wood and carrying water, the road to enlightenment seems much clearer.
Nafalia, I've been thinking a lot about what you posted above. I am so thankful that you have found your healing path. When I get through chopping that wood, I'll get back with you on it.
It's beautiful weather down here in East Texas, but I sure do miss my garden and the mountains. Becky, that monkey grass, so far, has a 100% survival rate. Think it may have even multiplied while in the container. Should be back in a couple weeks.
love and light
deb-o-bluebonnet

[Becky Davis]

Good DaBee. It will go through a real growth spurt shortly. That stuff spreads like wildfire. I have another batch that doesn't spread as fast, but it is slow growing.
I had thrown some garlic and wild periwinkle on top of that bucket. Don't know if it made it up there or not. The periwinkle is pretty if you have space for it. They use it for chemo, I am told.

[PMilam]

Nafalia, blessings.

I chose to forgo chemo and tamoxifen after my mastectomy. May your coming time find you gathering strength and health.

Whatever comes your way, I pray that you have the peace that surpasses understanding.

love, peace and miracles,
Patt

[DaBee]

Wisdom Within
The Higher Self

The soul can be likened to a great house with many rooms, each of which makes up an integral part of who we are. One of those rooms, or aspects, is what is known as the higher self, a part of us that possesses a range of perception far greater than that of the conscious mind. Your higher self is aware of both your current existence and numerous other possibilities, and cannot be altered or suppressed. It is related to your basic, innate purpose and no matter how much or how often you change, it remains constant. Some believe the higher self is the most evolved, most perfect "self" and thus can act as a guide on life's journey. In that role, it manifests itself in many ways: as images that flash in your mind inspiring ideas, as a small voice, as intuition, or as a feeling of rightness associated with certain actions.

Becoming aware of and connecting with the higher self is comparable to becoming truly aware of oneself while feeling entirely integrated into the universe. It is like being in your body while looking down at your life from a high vantage point. With such insight, you can find the answers to many questions about your own life and the infinite existence. Connecting with the higher self, however, takes dedication, discipline, and practice. You may find it difficult because old emotional wounds or negative thoughts block your connection. One technique involves becoming "level" with the higher self through visualization. Begin by sitting in a chair with adequate support for the spine. Relax and breathe deeply. When you have achieved a level of deep calm, rise out of yourself, turn, and see your seated body before you. Visualize the higher self - it may appear as a point of white light above your head. Concentrate on it and slowly move it down to your physical body, letting it env!
elope you until it reaches the floor. Be sure to ground yourself after doing this exercise by eating a meal, or going out in nature.

After connecting with their higher selves, many people report rediscovering their soul's purpose and feel comfortable living in accordance with it. On the other hand, it is possible to fight the higher self, which can lead to tension and lack of energy. Nonetheless, the higher self is our most open and wise "companion" in life, and a source of unadulterated insight, provided we have the perseverance to bond with it.

[Jeannie Jones]

Hi, folks,

Good one, Deb. Thanks for the visualization. And the previous one at the top of the page.

Nafalia's doing MUCH better. She's eating things she hasn't been able to eat in a LONG time. Perhaps later today she'll want to write something. This is the first time I've felt the "nudge" to check in since my last visit.

I'm doing well. After quitting the anti-depressants and bringing my other meds back up to their proper dosages, I'm feeling a lot better, and have a lot less pain.

Today I saw my dermatologist for my second quarterly visit. I like him. I had one spot on my leg that didn't look good, and he froze it off (the spot, not the leg). http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif He also froze off some of the most prominent part of the spot on my cheek, around the area where the carcinoma had been, to see how it would go. Seborrhoeic keritosis, I believe that was, and a new one at the bottom of my eyebrow on the same side. He gave me a couple of small tubes of a cortisone cream for what I thought might be roseacea on my chin and just above my nose, which only turned out to be contact dermatitis to the exfoliant I've been using. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif

Well, Deb, I still owe you an answer to ALL the times you've asked me how I've been doing, and haven't explained. It's 4:30 AM now, and that's just not the time to start it. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/eek.gif

Well, lots of love to all,

Jeannie

[DaBee]

I really love the message that this Daily OM brings. Our humanness is such a miraculous stage in our journeys and sometimes,IMHO, it is good to be reminded of it. Thanks, Jeannie, for sharing and I'm looking forward to hearing from Nafalia.
love and light and it's outta sight!
deb

Wonderful Vessel
The Amazing Body

As human beings we have been given a wonderful gift. Our incredible minds and internal spirits are housed in a body that enables us to physically connect with this beautiful planet we inhabit. We are able to see, hear, taste, smell, and feel through our bodies and convey all those senses to our minds and souls so that we may learn and grow and ultimately evolve.

The human body serves us the best to its ability, everyday of our lives, allowing us to breathe in the oxygen that is our life force, most of the time without us even having to thinking about it. That breath fuels a complex system that not only allows our body to function, but to renew itself. Our bodies actually have the capacity to remake themselves at a cellular level every seven years. That we can heal from major injury, severe illness, and physical trauma is a feat that we often take for granted. When the mind and spirit are one with the body, our ability to heal ourselves is truly miraculous.

The conditions to which we humans are able to adapt are beyond that of many other creatures on our planet. Our bodies continuously cleanse toxins from our system, whether environmental or self-induced. We push them beyond their limits to perform incredible feats, jumping to heights unimaginable, running at speeds that break records, and bending into yoga postures that are beyond comprehension. Even without sleep and nourishment our bodies continue to function until there is no more to give. When one of our senses or organs cease functioning, others are quick to step up to the plate and compensate for any loss. If we lose our eyesight, our hearing and/or other senses become more astute. When one kidney can no longer function, the other does the job for both of them. The human body is an incredible team that is on our side in the game of life.

We are blessed to be here, now, as human beings that can bring love and compassion to all the creatures we share this earth and universe with. Honor your being and use it to do good. The spirit and mind are willing, and so too, is the body.

[bborum]

In March, I posted the Terry Goodkind book Series Sword of Truth. Well, I am now on book 6 and am just as engrossed as I was with the first. This is the first author I have read in a long time that keeps you enthralled page after page. You can't skim or you will miss something that is important later. But you won't want too. Every word is manna! To those who are reading or are on the waiting list, enjoy!

[DaBee]

bborum, I haven't gotten over to the library yet to check out those books, but it's on my list of things to do. Thanks for the reminder.

JJ - My computer is fried and I'm on Chrystal's. Could you please resend the last email w/attachments as I can't get to it.
Have the gbabes this week as their parent's are off celebrating their 10th anniversary. I'm having so much fun with these 2, but my time is pretty well taken up keeping up with everything including ducks and chickens and geese and gardens and dirty dishes and gosh, I'll stop now cause the list would go on and on. Reminds me of 20+ years ago. Double the fun though, cause I only had one to chase around.
Hope everyone is enjoying this spring falling into summer time in the Ozarks.
love and light
deb

[DaBee]

I am so thankful for life and love. Even tough times and struggles has its purpose. When I read the following, it spoke to me and helped me understand a little more about the life process. Thought I'd share.
love and light
deb


Mystery Of Transformation
The Butterfly Chrysalis

During the time that a caterpillar egg is an egg, it looks nothing like a caterpillar, and the butterfly seems a far cry from the larva that precedes it. Do caterpillars recognize butterflies as their future selves? Do butterflies identify caterpillars as past relations? The most mysterious phase of this shape-shifting creature's process is the chrysalis, the jade green cocoon in which the crawling, leaf-eating caterpillar transforms into a floating, nectar-drinking butterfly.

In our human lives, we sometimes find ourselves in the chrysalis state. During those times we don't have much to offer the outside world because, whether we realize it or not, much of our energy is consumed with an inner transition. We might feel sluggish or disinterested in the outside world. We might feel impatient with ourselves, wondering why we don't have the energy we used to for our usual routines. But if we remember the chrysalis-the dark, inner sanctum that provides the environment for a remarkable conversion-we can relax and let ourselves be, finding ways to support our process rather than cajoling ourselves out of it.

If you see a butterfly emerging from its chrysalis, the temptation may be to help it break out. But the physical challenge of this part of the process is necessary for the butterfly to build its strength so that it can survive outside the chrysalis. The same is true of us. Sometimes we have to labor on our own to discover the force we need to be our new selves in the world. Similarly, when seeing friends or family members struggling, it's easy to become impatient and want to help with their emergence, but we have to learn to let others make their own way. Taking on the challenge of liberating ourselves directly enables us to thrive in our new freedom. Sometimes the greatest supports we can offer others and ourselves are patience and quiet confidence in the process unfolding, along with faith that the result will be extraordinary.

[Uncle Ogre]

To DaBee, Where was hand surgery done and who was Doctor? Are you satisfied with results?
To Becky. What is monkey grass and how is it used?
Sorry if this old ogre seems dumb but....
Can be e-mailed at uncleogre@gmail.com or answered here. Thank you

[PMilam]

OH, Bee.. that is just what I needed! Of course.

This week, I have been sleeping, getting outside to do a little gardening, then back to the couch, or chair, or right here. No energy for town, nor kids.. just doing a bit of renewing!

Thanks.. I hope that you are doing very well.

love

[DaBee]

Originally posted by Uncle Ogre:
To DaBee, Where was hand surgery done and who was Doctor? Are you satisfied with results?

UncleO...had the hand surgery at UALR in Little Rock. The doc's name is Bindra. He's in the Ortho dept. This is the 2nd surgery he's done for the carpal tunnel. On the EMG tests both hands showed to be pretty much gone as far as feeling goes, plus the pain was getting more and more intense. Both hands now have full feeling, no more pain and they were quick to heal. I'm very happy with the results. If you are going to have this done, trust me that you only want one hand surgery done at a time, allow time to heal, then the other. I'm really into being independent and having them both done at the same time would have taken that away, plus, I'm sure, proven to be embarrassing. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif

You can find out all about monkey grass in the Open Forum thread that has several pages (8) that Becky started to John called Hey John. He has Hilltop in Eureka and is quite knowledgeable about anything to do with gardens and plantings and landscaping. Think the monkey grass is discussed in around the 3rd or 4th page. I've planted what Becky sent to me and all is thriving.

[Becky Davis]

Hey...nice to know I am a butterfly waiting to emerge. Sure have been feeling like a slug. Thanks Deb, that made me feel like there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Not unhappy or anything like that..just disinterested in anything and lack of ambition.
Uncle the grass is for lawn borders, not the kind you mow. Although as fast as it grows, it will fill in a space pretty quickly. Yep, check out dear Johns column.

[Jeannie Jones]

Nafalia speaking with Jeannie~~

I'm finding it quite amazing that it's been 2 1/2 months since they told me I had colacogenic cancer. The reason I'm finding this so amazing is because I'm healing so well.

Not even for a split second have I had any doubt about my choice of alternative healing. There is a "knowing" deep within me that my healing process is taking place each and every second, and with each and every breath. Life just seems to be more and more amazing to me.

I follow my regimen of diet, which is very simple. I see my doctor 3 times a week, for energy and chiropractory work, and he clears out all interference in the central nervous system so that the body can do its healing job.

I have more energy, more good days, than I've had in 8 years. I'm out and about more, (not a lot, but more than I was before), I'm doing more little things around the house than I've done in a while. I still have my attendant, who does the heavy work, shopping, errands, etc.

For several months before the diagnosis, I had lost my sense of touch. I just was not interested in anything, and so disassociated from everything, that my sense of touch was not there. A wonderful part of the healing process is that my sense of touch has returned.

The sense of touch is so much of the vitality of one's life. It truly keeps you connected to the physical world, and gives you an appreciation of the physical experience.

At times your sense of touch may manifest in pain and/or discomfort. Just for a moment, stop and imagine ~~ if we didn't have it, how would we know if we were dead or alive? We would not understand if we were still in the physical experience, so it's the sense of touch that keeps us in tune with the inner and outer world. It was quite an experience. I didn't realize I'd lost it until the gift of touch was returned to me.

So, when they say "reach out and touch someone" ~~ do so.

What I'm experiencing at this time, I can without a doubt say, has given me the opportunity to know and understand myself at an even deeper level than before. For as I said, I have a knowing deep within, that tells me I am growing on a new and different path.

To sum it up in a few words, I'm having a transformation. I am observing myself as I transform into a new being.

To all those who have asked about my well-being, I thank you and I love you much for thinking of me. And keep those cards and letters comin' in, folks! http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif

As we will it, so shall it be,

Nafalia

P.S. This REALLY is Nafalia, not Jeannie channelling. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by Jeannie Jones (edited 05-30-2005).]

[DaBee]

So good to hear from you, Nafalia. Your right road is taking you to wonderful places on your journey and I'm honored that you are sharing it.
Your opening yourself to the non-traditional modes to wellness is a leap of faith that I am listening for. It gives me hope and faith to follow my heart and the small voice within.
Love and light and twinkly fireflies in the night,
deb

[DaBee]

In reading through my "dailies", ran across this and it seems to go along with what Nafalia has been talking about.

Inner Healing Wisdom
Tuning Into Sickness
The physical body is like a biological computer. It is composed of innumerable components and stores many things in its vast memory. Though we try to rid ourselves of illnesses in the form of viruses, diseases, and aches and pains, these, too, are a part of the human computer. The mind-body system is miraculous, utilizing everything in its control to send us signs. Chronic pain can be a sign of discord, infection a sign of exhaustion or emotional repression, and a sour stomach a sign of anger or stress. Many illnesses are manifest into being through our own actions or inactions, bottled-up worries, or inability to feel deserving. Because your body will not lie to you, it is often possible to not only become well, but to treat the underlying root of the illness, by tuning into it. Essentially, it is another part of your body and, as such, can be communicated with.

If all people were to live lovingly, positively, and naturally, there would no doubt be less sickness. But, in this age of heavy workloads, complicated interpersonal communications, indoor activities, and pollution, the body begs to be consulted when illness strikes. When you feel sickness coming on or if you have been dealing with sickness for a long period of time, take time out of your day to sit quietly and relax deeply. When you have reached a state of intense relaxation, ask that which plagues you (be it virus, bacteria, or pain) what it wants. Talk to it as if it was an entity within you and have a conversation with it. But it is important to listen after you have posed your question; your body has all of the answers. If nothing is immediately forthcoming, ruminate on your life as of late. Are you avoiding a stressful situation or unconsciously seeking sympathy? That could be the case, but the answer you receive may not necessarily be profound, and it can be specific or somewhat vague. What your sickness tells you may be surprising. However, when you have acknowledged and accepted the answer, your recovery will be swift.

Tuning into your illness can help you learn new, more effective, adaptive, and powerful ways of dealing with sickness. Putting one's faith in the ability of the mind to heal the body and vice versa is an important step on the journey toward lasting self healing.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~
While most people feel that we've come a long way in modern medicine, I feel that we, as a more sensitive people as of late, are beginning to "remember" that we are able to tune into our selves for the real information. All of the answers are there if we can only be quiet enough for a long enough time to hear or sense them.
Right now I'm in Texas and staying in a house that is maybe a half mile from a busy state hiway. The traffic is so bothersome to me because at home in S. Carroll County, only an occassional vehicle passes and I live almost 4 miles and behind lots of hills from the nearest paved road. The peaceful, healing quiet is something that I miss when I'm not home.
I also feel that some of us have been or are becoming "sensitives" to our environment, be it the air or sights, what we hear and/or what we eat and drink. Does anyone reading this know what I'm meaning, or rather, struggling to say? A bit off the subject matter (what is the subject matter, anyway? http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif but am wondering about somehow correlating this sensitivity as a paving of the way for Indigo Children, maybe not as parents necessarily, but those who may better understand.
It's a muggy, cloudy day in E. Texas but I bet it's another beautiful day in the Ozarks!

love and light
deb-o-deepintheheartoftexas

[Uncle Ogre]

DaBee, Thank you for the response. Already had the Carpal tunnel in hand and wrist.. Put teflon sleeves in so ligaments could sliiiiide >> Ha,, works great.. No, now its a bone spur on the thumb joint. Drs in Fay. want to do major joint replacement.. Oh well maybe some day.. Its only been 8 years.. Wish you the best,, Sounds like you're doing fine...

[Jeannie Jones]

Hi, Deb-o-Queen-o-EastTexas,

Interesting synchronicity in the personal part of your last post. Day before yesterday Nafalia was talking with a gal she knows in a "metaphysical-type" shop, who told her about "crystal children". She mentioned it to me, and I found this article that is right up y/our alley, I believe. Here's the URL:

http://www.starchild.co.za/what.html

What I'm hearing is that as the higher frequency is grounding in the planet now, it is causing many of us to feel ill. So it is with the earth as well. Also, it pushes on whatever has been "held" in our lifetimes. We may relieve some of the discomfort by filling ourselves totally with Love, and releasing what no longer serves us.

Very low energy day today for me, although I did get a few things accomplished. Gotta cut it short now.

Baskets of rose petals to all,

Jeannie


[This message has been edited by Jeannie Jones (edited 06-02-2005).]

[DaBee]

Originally posted by Jeannie Jones:
Hi, Deb-o-Queen-o-EastTexas,Interesting synchronicity in the personal part of your last post. What I'm hearing is that as the higher frequency is grounding in the planet now, it is causing many of us to feel ill. So it is with the earth as well. Also, it pushes on whatever has been "held" in our lifetimes. We may relieve some of the discomfort by filling ourselves totally with love, and releasing what no longer serves us.
Very low energy day today for me, although I did get a few things accomplished. Gotta cut it short now.Baskets of rose petals to all,Jeannie

I just love it when synchronicity happens! Hello to Jeannie and Nafalia. Thanks so much for the website. I've perused many concerning Indigo Children and closely related topics, but never have seen this one. It's quite interesting. On another thread in Open Forum there's been a pretty lengthy discussion in the not too distant past, concerning this same subject and quite a few people related to this either with themselves or thru children or grandchildren. It makes me realize that not too many people check out the Gratitude Journal when a new post is made. Too bad, because so many posts on this thread go right to the heart of the matter of whatever. It doesn't concern politics or religious battle/conflict. Maybe that's why they don't check this out. Notice that if I post anything on the Open Forum and it's a controversial subject and I just kinda lay out a zennish response, it goes unmentioned, while another aggressive post is responded to with zeal. I do believe in our freedom of choice and know that we draw into our lives what we put out there. Guess that answers a lot of "why" issues.
Sorry about that rambling, but it's been on my mind lately. Just another observance of human behavior, including mine. I agree, Jeannie, with the idea of a higher vibration (frequency) being given to our planet and all of its vegetable, animal, mineral inhabitants. I still think that the wavering hummmmm that I hear from time to time is the higher frequency. I especially notice it more around the full moon time. I have no explanation for that. Could be the bats in the belfry, but I hear it none the less. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif
Hope you're feeling zippier today, Jeannie. I'm sure not, but maybe we traded energy supplies or something. This part of Texas never really agreed with me, so maybe I've got Texasitis again. Do think my hair is starting to look like big ol' Texas hair and the making a three syllable word from one syllable, i.e..."help" is now "ha-ee-ulp", and lets see, well, I won't go into anymore of it, but think it's time to start loading the buckboard and heading back to the hills. Gotta stay a couple more weeks though. Y'all just keep sending me good thoughts and prayers in one syllable increments. Thanks.
love and light
deb-o-big D little A double L ASS

[PMilam]

Hi ya'll..
I have to admit, some days I don't think to look here, either...
After the butterfly.. the next day, in fact, this appeared.. from Goodstart.. the one that Mtn View Steve.. aka Light Steve, introduced us to....

Spirit is always in perfect balance. It knows when to stay in motion, and it knows when to be still. And so do I. Like nature, like the tides, like the seasons, I honor the times when I'm active and energized equally with the times when I feel dormant and led to my interior. Because Life is all an infinite cycle of goodness, I know that every cycle has a beginning, middle, and end. I don't need to worry or fear when I feel stuck, because that 'stuckness' is a temporary thing, like clouds passing before the sun.

In the midst of my life, whatever the cycle, I pay attention to the inner guidance I receive from the Self, and honor it. I regularly return my mind to a place of peace and understanding through daily spiritual practice. I always go within for the answers, because that's where answers are to be found. The key that sparks my understanding may come from a glance or a word, but the consciousness in me is what makes me ripe for that understanding. I give thanks for this understanding: that spirit is always with me, inside and out, through every day of my life. And I know it. And it's good. And so it is.

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I sent out the butterfly one and this one to my group of AR women. We have a gathering every year.. I think it's our 14th, this year..
anyway.. the response was overwhelmingly...

"I needed that!!"

Maybe it's the time of life.. maybe it's the time of wo/man.. Joanie Mitchell...

I can go for about 3 days, being active, taking care of kids, gardening, etc... then, I need 3 days of low activity.. and lots of sleep to get ready for the next period of activity. Last week, I took the whole week off. Then Sat. got Kole (23 mo.) Had him over night and all the next day.. then got Jade (5) and Molly (17 mo.). It was Molly's first night away from home. She did great.. Both of them did. I took them home Tues evening... and have been either sitting or laying down since!!

I'm happy to hear that you are doing better, Nafalia.
Asking that your time in TX goes fast and that you find pleasure in the rest of your time there, Deb.

Blessings all around!
love,
Patt

[DaBee]

I felt a lot of comfort in reading your post, Patt. Thanks. I've had the same reaction after being on my toes with the g'kids for over a week + the 7 hour drive here. When I got here, the 1st night I slept 11 1/2 hours, the next night 13 hours, then last night 8 hours + 2 more cause I just couldn't get awake. I'm feeling much more rested today, but could probably really use a nap. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif It's getting pretty hot here, so have to watch my exertion level and like you said, just need to tune in to my consciousness for guidance and answers.
Is your Arkansas women gathering the one that you had pics of last year when you went camping? It's nice to be on the same frequency with other women. I'm finding that I'm not as social as I used to be. At least we have Geekfest and just the internet in general to tune in to like others. I've thought about going to some of the Geekfest gatherings, but haven't made one yet. Think that having to deal with parking in Eureka is one of the reasons. Also, my club and party time days are pretty well over with. I'd suggested a family type of picnic at one point, but don't think it really interested anyone. Something will come along that gets me up and moving, I just know it.
OK, just talked myself into it.....naptime!
Sweet dreams everyone!
love and light
deb-o-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[PMilam]

Dang! I get here, to keep from napping.. and there you are, all asleep!

The pictures are from a family gathering that we have been going to, since Craig and I met. The women's weekend started after many of us scattered away.. it brings us back. We did have a group that met every other week, when we all lived in the boonies, and were rearing little kids. We absolutely needed that time, to maintain sanity! Many with no electric, running water.. toilets.. and certainly no money!

Those of us that are still married were telling our husbands lately, that if it had not been for those get togethers, we would have left them long ago!

We used to gather at the Riverview hotel at Calico Rock, in the fall. Now, we gather in the summer, at Wit's End, so. of Marshall, just across from Courseys smoked meat place... this way.. we have ac.. and the river is swimmable.. whereas the White @ Calico is not.

Ok.. I've got to get back to my inside project, so I can go outside when it cools down. Sunset is my favorite time of day.

Hope you slept well, and woke refreshed and renewed!

[mtnviewsteve]

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DaBee, LIGHT Sister,
Whatcha' doing way down in Texas? Glad to hear all is well but ya' still missing us! When do you plan on coming home to the Ozarks?
My back "deal" is the same, no improvement, still using a cane to hobble around, but still getting around OK. Have good days and bad days but my LIGHT still shining and I'm still peddling incense a little. My job at Stone County Ironworks is good, as long as I can sit without too much pain. Laying down is the only real relief I get, as I elect "not to" take pain removers. Think I'm goofy enough and don't need to be "more goofy." Remember that song that says "Here I am in Dallas, Alice, where the hell are you?"
Look forward to hearing "a little" more about your journey and know how "high" we can get when SPIRIT fills us and we allow ourselves to go with the flow.
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*Peace*Love*Twisted-Healing LIGHT
sTeVe-o-TwIsTeD-lIgHt-MaNiAc.

[Jeannie Jones]

Well, hi, folks, and very nice to hear from you too, Steve. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif I've been exploring that site that I mentioned at the bottom of previous page, and found "Why We Feel So Tired So Often". I know there are outer reasons, like physical conditions, g-babes, long road trips, etc., but here's a view of the over-all.

The article mentions, among other things, that we're clearing on many levels, and getting rid of old behaviour patterns that no longer serve us. I would suggest that if you're pressed for time or interest, to at least go to the bottom to read "A Note of Caution". Here's the link:

http://www.starchildascension.org/starchild/tired.html

After re-reading the article on indigo/crystal children, I went on in my exploration, and checked out that site's links. Amazingly, or rather synchronicitously, http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/biggrin.gif the only link I chose to follow, from a list of some 13 or so links, brought me back to Arkansas! (Cryptic? Yes, perhaps so)

Gotta go--energy reserves are depleted.

Love and kisses to all,

Jeannie-aux-arcs http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif

[DaBee]

Just ran across another possibility. I've always been aware of stale air being something to avoid, but I always thought that it was because there was too little oxygen in the air mix. Gee, cool to learn something new every once in a while. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif

Something In The Air
Negative Ions

People often say, "There's something in the air." Intuitively, most people can sense there is an innate difference between the natural, fresh air one breathes in the countryside or mountains and that of their home, car, or office. Air in the outdoors, away from cities is crisp and light, while circulated air might be described as stale or dry. That 'something in the air' is the negative ion, a molecule that has gained an extra electron. Unspoiled air has a high concentration of negative ions that exist in balance with positive ions, or molecules that have lost an electron. Exposure to negative ions (also called happy ions) can lift your spirit, boost your energy, and improve your mood. In times of high stress, breathing air with a large number of negative ions can help regulate sleep patterns and appetite.

An excess of positive ions is produced in most suburban and urban settings because of electronics, synthetic fabrics, air traveling over metal, high-tension wires, static electricity, and highly filtered air, which upset the air's natural ion balance. The results can sometimes be seen as headaches, lethargy, and seasonal depression. But the effects can be countered simply by walking in the woods, in a park, or by the sea, wearing and using natural fibers, sitting more than a foot away from your computer monitor and turning it off when not in use, and opening the windows rather than using an air conditioner.

In many European offices and hospitals, negative air ionization is required and research has shown that negative ions can have a positive effect on allergies and asthma, cognitive function, and athletic performance. Ancient yoga texts suggested that students wishing to perfect breathing exercises do so near waterfalls or mountain caves. The masters may not have known about negative ions, but in our world of confined and crowded spaces, electronics, and filtered air, their advice remains true.

[DaBee]

Originally posted by mtnviewsteve:
http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif DaBee, LIGHT Sister, Whatcha' doing way down in Texas? Glad to hear all is well but ya' still missing us! When do you plan on coming home to the Ozarks? Look forward to hearing "a little" more about your journey and know how "high" we can get when SPIRIT fills us and we allow ourselves to go with the flow. http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif *Peace*Love*Twisted-Healing LIGHT sTeVe-o-TwIsTeD-lIgHt-MaNiAc.

So way good to hear from you, oh twisted maniac brother StEvE. Glad that the job is going well. I remember that it came your way with accurate timing and gratefulness. Dealing with chronic pain can sure be an energy robber. I understand about not wanting to take medication for it, but find that at times I just have to stop and go no mo without something.
Was reading through the link that JJ mentioned and came across a paragraph that will kinda answer your question about what I'm doing at the La Brea Tar Pits, woops, I mean Texas http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/wink.gif. I'm in the process of balancing and listening, guess you would say. More to come when I have the time to elaborate. Then again, that's more than "a little" than you'd probably want to know.
And sTeVe, thanks for asking.
So.....gotta go, gotta go, gotta go go go.
love and light and here is the quote:
THE SACRED DANCE : MULTI-DIMENSIONAL RELATIONSHIPS IN THE 21ST CENTURY

The third or last movement is always back to Unity and Harmony. The Two once again discover, through their separate journeys, that they are indeed One. In fact, they rediscover each other and their oneness, since they have learnt something more about the self and the other, and are now reuniting on a higher spiral of evolution and consciousness. And having learnt this particular new thing, there is no need to go back and do it again and again, this being how destructive patterns arise within a relationship. Skilled cosmic dancers know how to let go and move to new levels of experiential dancing, by keeping the relationship in a state of growth and new movement.

deb-o-onahigherspiral http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/cool.gif

[mtnviewsteve]

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Your daily Native American Wisdom
Native American Wisdom about Living Life

"Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned
and the last fish has been caught
will we realize
we cannot eat money."
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[This message has been edited by mtnviewsteve (edited 06-06-2005).]

[DaBee]

Because I tend to resist limitation and restriction, this reading was a tiny bit hard for me this morning. I realize now that this resistance was coming from my ego. It can sure get me in trouble sometimes. I enjoy being aware of information in any form concerning Alignment, which I equate with being in Balance.
smile.gif deb

Living In Alignment
Integrity

A boat with no leaks is said to have integrity, as is a solid piece of furniture. It is their wholeness-no gaps or weaknesses-that gives them their integrity. People who have integrity convey a similar "seaworthiness" and stability. There is the sense that they can be counted on, that their actions will be consistent with their ideals. Just being in the presence of someone with this quality creates a feeling of steadiness even in a chaotic environment. These people are natural leaders because we sense that it is safe to follow them. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Gandhi are clear examples of modern human beings who embodied integrity.

All spiritual traditions have vows, precepts, and tenets that are designed to encourage us to live in harmony with a higher vision of what humanity can be. Following a set of precepts, or taking a vow, can teach us what it feels like to be true to a set of elevated ideals in which we think beyond I, me, and mine. Being true to a vow in the face of temptation builds strength and power. We learn first hand the benefits of sacrificing short-term gains in favor of long-term vision. We learn the value of doing what is right, and not just what is easy. In a culture obsessed with convenience and freedom, integrity can be a rare quality. Perhaps this is because we have a cultural habit of resisting limitation and restriction. And yet, limitation and restriction often provide the structure in which integrity can be born.

Living with integrity generates self-confidence and self-esteem. It is important to take time on a regular basis to examine whether your actions, your words and your vision are in alignment. Make it a priority to look into any imbalances you find and commit to resolving them. Take time to consider and, when necessary, revise your overall vision for life, making sure your actions and words support your ideals.

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:
"Buddhist Wisdom"

"In the same way that rain breaks into a house with a bad roof, desire breaks
into the mind that has not been practising meditation."
Buddha

Together in Unity

I offer you peace. I offer you love. I offer you friendship. I see your beauty. I hear your need. I feel your feelings. My wisdom flows from the Highest Source. I salute that Source in you. Let us work together for unity and love.

Mahatma Gandhi

So Mote It Be.
:cool:

[mtnviewsteve]

"When Your Heart Is In Your Dream,
No Request Is Too Extreme"

Jiminy Cricket
:cool:

[DaBee]

Your Life Is Your Art
Toltec Wisdom

The Toltec wisdom tradition originated in southern Mexico thousands of years ago. It has reemerged in recent years through many teachers, some who consider themselves direct descendents of the ancient Toltecs. This tradition is not considered a religion, but a philosophy accessible to anyone open to its insights.

The Toltec believe that this life is a dream, and that the dream we are having, which we consider reality, is created out of our beliefs and thoughts. Therefore, it is malleable. We can change it by changing our beliefs and thoughts. Deconstructing our current view of reality and understanding how that view forms our experience of reality is the primary work involved on the Toltec path.

For example, if you grew up in a family with a history of depression or repression, the chances are your reality is very influenced by ideas that perpetuate those conditions. Many of the ideas we hold to be truth were passed on to us before we had the capacity to question them and they took hold in our consciousness by default. Once we begin to understand this, we can release thoughts and beliefs that cause suffering, knowing that they are not the truth.

You can begin this journey by examining the set of beliefs under which you currently operate. Notice if any of them make you feel restricted, unhappy, or depressed. This is your intuition telling you that something is not right. Question those beliefs. Trust your innate ability to know the truth when you see it. As we methodically dismantle our belief systems, we begin to experience newfound personal freedom, one of the key tenets of the Toltec Way. It is this freedom that enables us to see that we are artists capable of creating our own lives.

[Jeannie Jones]

Originally posted by DaBee:


The Toltec believe that this life is a dream, and that the dream we are having, which we consider reality, is created out of our beliefs and thoughts. Therefore, it is malleable. We can change it by changing our beliefs and thoughts. Deconstructing our current view of reality and understanding how that view forms our experience of reality is the primary work involved on the Toltec path.

Deb, this reminds me so much of one of the Anthony de Mello pieces that you posted about love, which says that we must rid ourselves of attachments, the outer yearning for a person or a condition such as love or happiness, in order to be completely free and "in the moment". If we are completely free, then love comes to us as metal to a magnet, on a moment-to-moment basis. But as the Toltecs and Anthony de Mello have said, we must release our concept of "reality", and the framework of our belief systems.

If we forget about how we define reality, become fully able to stand alone and feel a sense of completion without looking outside of us for it, and open ourselves up totally, I think that this would be a major opening to live in the abundance of this physical experience, and to take a giant leap toward ascension.

Don't know if I've explained that very well, but maybe I should find an excerpt from the de Mello piece that would say it more clearly. Well, I just reread it again, and don't see how it could be "excerpted", so I'll just paste the piece here:

"If we really dropped illusions for what they can give us or deprive us of, we would be alert. The consequence of not doing this is terrifying and unescapable. We lose our capacity to love. If you wish to love, you must learn to see again. And if you wish to see, you must learn to give up your drug. It's as simple as that. Give up your dependency. Tear away the tentacles of society that have enveloped and suffocated your being. You must drop them. Externally, everything will go on as before, but though you will continue to be in the world, you will no longer be of it. In your heart, you will now be free at last, if utterly alone. Your dependence on your drug will die. You don't have to go to the desert; you're right in the middle of people; you're enjoying them immensely. But they no longer have the power to make you happy or miserable. That's what aloneness means. In this solitude your dependence dies. The capacity to love is born. One no longer sees others as means of satisfying one's addiction. Only someone who has attempted this knows the terrors of the process. It's like inviting yourself to die. It's like asking the poor drug addict to give up the only happiness he has ever known. How to replace it with the taste of bread and fruit and the clean taste of the morning air, the sweetness of the water of the mountain stream? While he is struggling with his withdrawal symptoms and the emptiness he experiences within himself now that his drug is gone, nothing can fill the emptiness except his drug. Can you imagine a life in which you refuse to enjoy or take pleasure in a single word of appreciation or to rest your head on anyone's shoulder for support? Think of a life in which you depend on no one emotionally, so that no one has the power to make you happy or miserable anymore. You refuse to need any particular person or to be special to anyone or to call anyone your own. The birds of the air have their nests and the foxes their holes, but you will have nowhere to rest your head in your journey through life. If you ever get to this state, you will at last know what it means to see with a vision that is clear and unclouded by fear or desire. Every word there is measured. To see at last with a vision that is clear and unclouded by fear or desire. You will know what it means to love. But to come to the land of love, you must pass through the pains of death, for to love persons means to die to the need for persons, and to be utterly alone.

How would you ever get there? By a ceaseless awareness, by the infinite patience and compassion you would have for a drug addict. By developing a taste for the good things in life to counter the craving for your drug. What good things? The love of work which you enjoy doing for the love of itself; the love of laughter and intimacy with people to whom you do not cling and on whom you do not depend emotionally but whose company you enjoy. It will also help if you take on activities that you can do with your whole being, activities that you so love to do that while you're engaged in them success, recognition, and approval simply do not mean a thing to you. It will help,too, if you return to nature. Send the crowds away, go up to the mountains, and silently commune with trees and flowers and animals and birds, with sea and clouds and sky and stars. I've told you what a spiritual exercise it is to gaze at things, to be aware of things around you. Hopefully, the words will drop, the concepts will drop, and you will see, you will make contact with reality. That is the cure for loneliness. Generally, we seek to cure our loneliness through emotional dependence on people, through gregariousness and noise. That is no cure. Get back to things, get back to nature, go up in the mountains. Then you will know that your heart has brought you to the vast desert of solitude, there is no one there at your side, absolutely no one.

At first this will seem unbearable. But it is only because you are unaccustomed to aloneness. If you manage to stay there for a while, the desert will suddenly blossom into love. Your heart will burst into song. And it will be springtime forever; the drug will be out; you're free. Then you will understand what freedom is, what love is, what happiness is, what reality is, what truth is, what God is. You will see, you will know beyond concepts and conditioning, addictions and attachments. Does that make sense?"

Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily,
Live is but a dream.......

JJ

[DaBee]

JJ..I think you explained it quite well, but thanks for adding the de Mello piece. I never tire of reading his material. There is such a correlation between the Toltec teachings, which I find easier to grasp when Don Miguel Ruiz writes about it, and the de Mello teachings. There are some new de Mello books out...has anyone out there read them? I'm gonna try to get them on half.com. Maybe we can converse about it when several of us have read them. What 'cha think?
love and light and sweet dreams to all.
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

Nafalia's Call To All Lightworkers

As I lie here in the bed, I now feel it's time that I put out a call to all Lightworkers.

The battle with the cancer and the fight to stay away from traditional medicine is what I now need help with.

It has been a little over 3 months since I was diagnosed with colon cancer.

My decision to do alternative care, I still believe, beyond the shadow of a doubt, is the way for me to go.

What I'm asking from all of you is that any little bit of energy you have to send my way would be greatly appreciated.

Things were going quite well for quite a while. Now it is time to integrate some other pieces of alternative health care into my healing process. Just spoke with a friend of mine up in Kansas City, who performs many kinds of alternative health care.

I told her the symptoms I have been experiencing in the last couple of weeks, i.e., weakness, sleeping a lot, loss of appetite, and in general feel like I'm losing ground.

She knew right away that I have become borderline hypoglycemic, lack protein, and my body's not absorbing the food, even though I'm eating all the right things.

She explained it to me basically that the cancer is taking all of the food value and everything, to thrive on, which leaves me in a very weakened state.

I told her I was not strong enough to travel to her for care, and she replied, "I was in Springfield this morning, and I can travel."

So as the battle with the cancer continues, I'm now calling in other pieces of the alternative picture, and at the same time, am asking all of you to come back in also.

I don't know much more to say than what I've already said. I think it's a pretty clear picture, so I will leave it at this.

As we will it, so mote it be,

Nafalia

[DaBee]

Nafalia...As I write this, I am there with you. Focusing healing light and a gentle breath of fresh air. You are in my thoughts throughout the day. Positive and balancing affirmations are sent.
love and light
deb

[DaBee]

It seems to me that the answers to some of life's quandaries are just a thought away. If not inside of us, then out in the universe just waiting to be of service. As I went to bed last night, a nagging thought that was really making me sad just sat there, refusing to move. I prayed that a power greater than myself would take it away. This morning I found the answer because (IMHO) I asked for the help. Here's what I read and want to share it with you./deb

Controlling Your Mind
Unwanted Thoughts

Negative thoughts exist for most of humanity. When they arise, they can spiral into a deluge of gloomy thoughts or even depression. There are times when it seems impossible to stop thinking of the world's ills or replaying every moment of a bad memory. It's like having a song stuck in your head, only more intense and emotionally draining. Unwanted thoughts that persist can distract you from your life. Luckily, there are ways to consciously release them and to trick your mind into refocusing its attention on more positive subjects.

When unwanted dark thoughts are swirling in your head, it can be difficult to concentrate on anything else. You need to take back your attention and to refocus it. Start by shouting out loud or inside your mind something jarring and to the point, such as "Stop!" or "That's enough!" Any word or phrase is fine, as long as it is momentarily shocking. Doing so may be enough, or you may want to try thought stopping. First, take a few deep breaths, relax, and picture a scene in which you feel comfortable, optimistic, and good about yourself. Note every detail, even if the setting isn't a real place. Next time unwanted thoughts occur, yell "Stop!" and then immediately begin imagining your scene, replacing the unwanted thought with something positive.

Never try to 'think away' an unwanted thought because you will simply strengthen it. It can be helpful to share your unwanted thought with someone, thereby lessening your mind's preoccupation with it. If you're uncomfortable doing so, simply distract yourself when unwanted thoughts begin cycling. Recite the alphabet, tackle some chores, do a puzzle, exercise (which released hormones that may quell unwanted thoughts), or perform a conscious breathing meditation.

It's natural to experience negative thought patterns or even obsess over a memory, but there is no need to let it overwhelm you. It may be difficult at first to replace negative thoughts with positive ones or to concentrate on a puzzle when you can't let go of a thought. Techniques like thought stopping and using other forms of distraction to rid you of unwanted thoughts get easier and easier with time and it really does work.

[DaBee]

Nafalia and Jeannie...I have had you both on my mind and in my heart. Please keep us posted about how you are doing and I'd like to know about the other alternative methods that you are employing. Remember Qwirks, also.
love and light to both of you wonderful light workers and especially special ladies/
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

From Nafalia:

There is some research being done as to what alternatives come next. Colonics has been suggested (still haven't made up my mind about that one). Phyllis of Evans Health Food Store, is, one might say, a guru of health foods and alternative health care in this area. She's been at it for some 50 years.

Phyllis has called her distributors to speak with their alternative health care specialists, because she has several questions to ask them about the type of cancer I have, and as to which particular type of high-powered mushroom would be best for me to start taking to build up my immune system, and we're still waiting on replies to that. She has also recommended that I drink lots and lots and lots of carrot juice right now.

Spoke with a friend of mine up in Kansas City who specializes in many forms of alternative treatment, including colonics, and she says there's only one kind of colonic that should be administered to me, and that's the gravity, which is basically done by hand, and not machine, and that's the short tube and not the long tube because my cancer is in the lower part of the colon.

She too is waiting to speak with another alternative health care provider on some techniques and procedures which he specializes in. So we're in a holding pattern on that one, too. My friend said that she would come here to Springfield to administer treatment, because I'm too weak to travel to Kansas City.

At this point, this is pretty much where the situation stands. The experience of dealing with cancer is, for me (and I'm sure for many many others), one that brings with it feelings of aloneness and loneliness, and seems to be very personal. I'm not sure why this is so, but it is so. At times it seems overwhelming, as if I can feel the loneliness and sadness of the entire planet. I don't know if it is a part of my transformation, but it certainly is powerful. I've been dealing with this, especially the last week or so, and this is the first time I've verbalised it. But it just seemed to start flowing out and wouldn't stop, as I'm speaking with Jeannie right now. (I hadn't even spoken to Jeannie about it before!) Not much else to tell you other than that I'm doing each moment in the now.

Deb, you have no idea how much I appreciate your concern in asking. I feel that sometimes it would be just wonderful to have someone hug me, or hold my hand and just tell me that it will be okay, but for some reason Spirit is having me walk this one alone, without the comfort of human touch. I try to use my good days to the fullest, and on the days that are not so good, I just rest and sleep.

As we will it, so shall it be,

Nafalia

P.S. Still trying to figure out why I wrote THIS into my script in this dimension, 'cause it certainly isn't anything I'd CONsciously choose to do. :eek:

[Becky Davis]

Dear Nafalia,
I wish you to take comfort knowing that even though there is sometimes no one there to help you through these dark and difficult days and even though it is not always verbalized, you are in the thoughts and prayers of many people.
It is sort of a constant thing for some of us to think of our ailing friends and offer up thoughts of goodness for them. Though we have never met and don't write often, you are in my thoughts. I have a mental image of you that seems to pop into my head at least every other week. I am sorry, I have not communicated this more to you.

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool: I found this, I know not where, and edited it ever so slightly to accomodate those for which I care:
UNFOLDING THE ROSE
It is only a tiny rosebud,
A flower of Goddess Mother's design;
But I cannot unfold the petals
With these clumsy hands of mine.

The secret of unfolding flowers
Is not known to such as I
Isis opens this flower so sweetly,
When in my hands they die.

If I cannot unfold a rosebud,
This flower of my Goddess Mother's design,
Then how can I have the wisdom
To unfold this life of mine?

So I'll trust in Her for leading
Each moment of my day.
And I will look to Her for guidance
Each step of this pilgrim's way.

The pathway that lies before me,
Only my Goddess Mother knows.
I'll trust Her to unfold the moments,
Just as she unfolds the rose.

May the unfolding of the rose of your life be ever so sweetly entrusted unto the hands of the One Whom we serve, that not one
petal will be damaged!!
:cool:
In Peace, Love, and Twisted*Healing*LIGHT

[tizzy]

mtnviewsteve, that is an absolutely beautiful poem. Thanks for sharing!

[DaBee]

Yes, sTeVe, I most enjoyed reading your poem.
Nafalia, I cannot seem to put the words together to express my feelings in somehow making a response to your post.
I received this quote today and guess it may do some expressing towards the feelings.
love and light
deb
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Native American Prayer: Hold On

Hold on to what is good,
Even if it's a handful of earth.
Hold on to what you believe,
Even if it's a tree that stands by itself.
Hold on to what you must do,
Even if it's a long way from here.
Hold on to your life,
Even if it's easier to let go.
Hold on to my hand,
Even if someday I'll be gone away from you.

[DaBee]

Anyone reading this that has not read PMilam's topic of Near Death Experiences on the Open Forum, I strongly encourage you do to so. It is the most powerful and delightful pieces that I have read in a long time. It's one of those inner knowing things that only can be recognized when brought to the forefront of your thinking (or your heart, really) by reading a story like this.
Thank you, Patt, for sharing.
love and light
deb

[DaBee]

Patt, how did your weekend friends retreat go? Had you read the near death experiences piece before going? Just wondered if you have been able to talk with anyone about the article and your experience. It is so fascinating. I don't know many people that have had this experience, but I have had an experience in which it was someone else, not me, that was leaving this realm. I just got to go along with her for a little while, but I'll never forget.
Good to have you back
deb w/love and light

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:
Ain't it true!! Enjoy LIGHTworkers.
Peace*Love*Twisted-Healing**LIGHT
sTeVe.

June 28, 2005
Anatomy Of A Flower
Being Part Of The Whole
As with all living things, a flower's intention is procreation. All the various parts of a flower work together toward this purpose, and each plays an essential role in the process. The vivid, delicate petals attract pollinators (birds and bees) who aid in the transfer of pollen. The center is the source and inspiration for the visually stunning petals and the petals, in turn, attract what the flower needs to create seeds and multiply.

When you have an opportunity to serve something larger than your individual self, you are like a petal on a flower, offering your particular brand of beauty and charisma in the service of a centralizing force. This centralizing force might be a person with a higher vision, a community with a common goal, or a spiritual path. Contemplate the ways in which you are a petal on a flower in your life. Who or what is at the center? What core values are you serving?

Consider also any situations in which you are the center of the flower, offering the nourishing seeds of an idea or quality that others are willing to gather around and perpetuate. It takes confidence and vision to be the nucleus. It also takes humility to empower the "petals" around you helping to feed your vision and enabling it to grow beyond you.

Like the parts of a flower, we are all here working together to create and be creative. Whether we are the center or the petal, it helps to be conscious of the seeds we are sowing in the world, as this is how we create the future.

In essence, we are all petals radiating outward from the unified source of energy that is life. Our time on this earthly plane is finite and fragile, and yet we branch out from our invisible source vibrantly and powerfully, attracting energy and making fertile connections that contribute to the continuation of life itself.

[PMilam]

Blessings to all. I'm in grandma mode right now..
love is heading your way... whoooo.... feel it?
xoxo
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[DaBee]

This so very eloquently states a way of thinking that I feel deeply, but have a hard time putting into words. It's also something that I, at times, fail to realize that I am doing because of so many years of conditioning as this being a societal norm. What I usually tell myself, or others close to me, if my advice is sought concerning such, is that we each have a path to follow and sometimes have to go through hard personal lessons to be able to really understand. I feel that we truly soak them in with the hard stuff as opposed to the easy stuff. Enough of my ramblings; here's what I am trying to say:

Giving The Freedom To Live
Accepting The Journeys Of Others

Each of us, in life, walks on the special path that the soul is destined to undertake. Our journeys are very different and we progress at different rates. The pitfalls and blessings we encounter are unique, yet we are all learning and no one form of knowledge is more important than any other. Even so, when we observe others, it can be easy to pass judgment on their decisions and to assume their actions will correspond with what we feel is right. But for every problem, there are a multitude of solutions. Everyone makes mistakes and, while watching others do so can be frustrating, it is important that you accept each person's unique way of doing things. Giving others the freedom to act in the way they feel are best without the fear of harsh judgments honors the capacity for growth that all people possess.

It is helpful to practice accepting others as they are. Never judge the decisions of others based on the path you would have taken because every person lives by different values and experiences. Challenge is a universal concept, but we all deal with difficulties in our own way. Give others the space to fail, but don't harden your heart against their experience. It isn't wise to try and fix people or control situations. You may feel compelled to intervene when difficulties arise, but it is important only to offer guidance when asked unless the person is involved in a truly dangerous situation or cannot act for themselves. Failure to choose the right path or to make enlightened decisions is simply another step on the journey. It is a means to experience and wisdom. Letting go of the need to influence others does not discount offering loving support and it does not mean that you need to stop caring. It does mean stepping back, dissolving judgment, and gracefully allowing others!
to live their own destinies.

Giving others the freedom to blossom in their own journeys gives you the freedom to take more notice of your own. You may not condone the actions you see taking place, but your reactions will be more loving by letting them be. And you will be able to focus on just being yourself, confident that the path you take is as right, valid, and special as any other.

[PMilam]

Amen

[DaBee]

"There is no denying that consideration of others is worthwhile. There is no denying that our happiness is inextricably bound up with the happiness of others. There is no denying that if society suffers we ourselves suffer. Nor is there any denying that the more our hearts and minds are afflicted with ill-will, the more miserable we become. Thus we can reject everything else: religion, ideology, all received wisdom. But we cannot escape the necessity of love and compassion."


Dalai Lama

I usually like to give my 2 cents worth on whatever I post, so that it's not just a simple copying from somewhere else. Usually with the Dalai Lama, though, he says it all.
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

Hi, folks,

Ms. Nafalia wanted me to post this for her:

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Time for the call to go out for the candles to be lit for the folks in the path of "DENNIS"!!!!

SEND OUT A CALL TO ALL LIGHT WORKERS TO WRAP THE FOLKS IN THE PATH OF DENNIS TO BE PROTECTED & NO HARM COME TO THE BRAVE SOULS WHO MUST FACE THIS HURRICANE!!!!

AS WE WILL IT ~~~ THE GOOD SPIRITS WILL GRANT IT

NAFALIA

[DaBee]

Nafalia, looks like it worked!

I have that everburning candle lit just for you. How are you feeling?

love and light
deb

[DaBee]

This is long, but a comfortable read. It's about a new book that sounds like a good text for daily reading. I'll be looking for it/deb

Vitamins for the Soul Daily Doses of
Wisdom for Personal Empowerment
By Sonia Choquette

Each time you choose to listen to your inner voice (or your sixth sense), you strengthen your commitment to live an authentic, self-directed, and personally empowered life. Your inner voice is communicated through subtle vibrations pulsating throughout your body, otherwise known as "vibes." Trusting your vibes relieves you of the stress of figuring things out—it saves you the wear and tear of worry and helps you begin living a life of ease and flow. Listening to your inner voice reflects your commitment to live a six-sensory life—the one you were designed to live as a Divine Child of the Universe. Just as taking vitamins strengthens and empowers your body, trusting your vibes strengthens and empowers your soul. Yet, as you know, just occasionally popping a multivitamin won’t do you much good—in the same way, it’s only when you trust your vibes on a daily basis over time that you’ll begin to feel, see, and experience a positive and powerful difference in your life.

Like vitamins for the soul, trusting your vibes strengthens your spirit, enhances your creativity, improves your decision-making ability; and helps you become a more empowered, joyful, and healthy person. Every time you choose to do so, you give your soul a dose of love and acceptance. And daily doses of love and acceptance heal your heart and restore you to a brighter, happier existence.

Learning to trust your vibes is possible, but if you want to see a real difference in your life, you must make it a habit. Consider each page in this book a daily fortification for your soul—that is, one page should be consulted every day. Open it at random, and take the offering on that page as your "vitamin"—you’ll soon discover that the wisdom you receive is perfect for that day. The synchronicity will be undeniable. And the results, if you take your psychic vitamins regularly, will speak for themselves.

So open this book every morning to receive a daily dose of psychic support. Now if you’re under particular stress or in need of a megadose of psychic guidance, simply open the book as often as needed and follow the instruction therein. Each page offers you another shot of soul food for personal power and peace of mind, which will make trusting your vibes a matter of habit. And if you take your psychic vitamins every day, you’ll definitely experience a change: You’ll go from living a fear-based, five-sensory, average life, to a heart-based, six-sensory, extraordinary one—one that restores your true voice, frees your spirit, and leads you at all times to the best possible outcomes. You’ll soon see, feel, and experience the magic it brings.

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Vitamins for the Soul

"I Am . . ."

Did you know that the words I am . . . are very powerful metaphysical words? Whenever you say, "I am," you proclaim who you are and want to be to the Universe, to others, and to yourself—and the Universe agrees and makes it so. That’s why it’s so damaging to make proclamations such as: "I am unhappy," "I am broke," "I am sick," "I am fat," or "I am unlovable"—these statements absolutely attract these unpleasant conditions.
This week, use the power mantra "I am . . . " to create the exact conditions you want in your life.

Try:

• "I am healthy."
• "I am balanced."
• "I am happily employed."
• "I am loved and lovable."
• "I am beautiful."
• "I am a prosperous, creative being."
• "I am joyful, lighthearted, and blessed in every way."

Begin with Grace

The Chinese have a saying: "The way it begins is the way it ends." Begin your new project by affirming: "I am a spiritual being, protected by angels, helped by guides, and infinitely loved and supported by God."

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Ten Ways to Nurture Your Spirit

1. When you leave work, really leave work.

2. Go for a walk with someone you love.

3. Invite friends over for a potluck dinner, followed by an evening of board games.

4. Unplug the phone during dinner.

5. Don’t take work calls in the evening or on weekends.

6. Tell stories instead of watching TV.

7. Play with your pet.

8. Do something creative or artistic with your hands, and give your mind a rest.

9. Write a long letter to a loved one.

10. Take a leisurely bubble bath while reading your favorite magazine.

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Listen to Your Higher Self

Listen to your Higher Self over everything else: It will naturally guide you to what it is you really need for change and serenity.

When you commit to living the six-sensory life, you begin your spiritual healing. You’ll recover your childlike joy, you’ll be able to love yourself in a deep and profound way, and you’ll start to feel how magnificent you really are.

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You Decide

Making the decision to trust your vibes is definitely a healing experience. . . .
Ask your Higher Self to help you in your new commitment. Approach your changes with a sense of humor and playfulness. Don’t worry about whether or not your vibes are "right"—just listen for what’s true for you for now. And go with it (that’s the hardest part).

***
Be Flexible

Be flexible.
The more adjustable you are, the more your Higher Self can guide you. And be physical about it: Get out of your head. Dance as much as you can. Stretch! Bend! Twist!

***
Write to Your Higher Self

Here’s an exciting tool for contacting your Higher Self when you need guidance: Write your Higher Self a letter, asking for help on whatever matter concerns you, and then imagine that your Higher Self is answering you.

As easy as this is, it works. By simply opening the way for your Higher Self to communicate, it will. You’ll be amazed at the bright ideas, suggestions, and solutions that come pouring through your pen.

It’s even better to make this a daily practice, as doing so allows your inner genius to go to work for you in every way.

***
Count Your Blessings

How has your Higher Self helped you this week? What gifts from your "inner teacher" have you received? Are you enjoying this whole new way of life? Are you starting to notice just how fun it is to go with the flow and trust your vibes instead of resisting?
Do you like having the Universe on your side?

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It’s in the Heart

We find our inner voice and the path to personal joy in the heart. It leads the way to a broader, deeper perspective and understanding of both ourselves and others. It brings our attention to the unseen subtle aspects of life and directs us toward a more creative, more loving, and more healing approach to life’s difficulties.

***
Take a Deep Breath

Every time you need guidance, counsel, direction, or simple reassurance from Divine Spirit, close your eyes, take in a few deep-cleansing breaths, and then place your attention directly on your heart. Allow your focus to rest there quietly for a moment or two, and then ask your heart to guide you. Trust whatever feelings come up—don’t censor or discount a thing.

If nothing comes to you immediately, don’t worry. Relax. Remain open and patient. Guidance will come before you know it.

***
Instant Relief

Listening to your heart and following your vibes will instill in you a profound sense of confidence and security. It isn’t an assurance that arises from an egotistical sense of "I’m so wonderful"— rather, it’s a sense of relief, knowing that you don’t have to do it on your own. You only have to do your part, and the Universe will meet you halfway with support, protection, and guidance.

[DaBee]

All alone am I ever since your goodbye
All alone with just a beat of my heart
People all around but I don't hear a sound
Just the lonely beating of my heart ...

Hello, hello, anybody there? Echo
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OK, now for today's wise thought:

Indian Masters wisdom about condemnation

Condemn none: if you can stretch out a helping hand, do so. If you cannot, fold your hands, bless your brothers and let them go their own way.


Sri Swami Vivekananda

[PMilam]

I'm here.. but, not for long.. on grandkid time again.
I've been spending my computer time on researching for our trip to GA.

You sure have 'come out' on open forum!

Blessings
Patt

[DaBee]

Sometimes lately I think that maybe I've come out too much. Usually keep personal stuff personal, but seemed appropriate at the time. Sometimes I feel like an open book and other times like a cave dwelling bat. Guess I'm looking for that balance and have to swing wide both ways for the process to unfold as it will. Thing is, I really like to see when other people open up and get real about different topics; even if I don't agree with them.
Sounds like you're like me, Patt, in that when you have the G'babes, all attention is focused on them. They love it and I do too! Just crazy about this Grandma stuff.
deb

[DaBee]

This is another explanation of "living in the moment". When your mind wanders to past events or future scenarios, being able to just identify that this is happening is the 1st step. By focusing on the activity that you are, at the moment, involved in, you are living life to the fullest.....even with mundane and simple acts. An appreciation of the simple things will ensue.
You will be "in gratitude".
love and light
deb

Buddhist(Zen) wisdom about Limiting Activity

When we practice zazen we limit our activity to the smallest extent. Just keeping the right posture and being concentrated on sitting is how we express the universal nature. Then we become Buddha, and we express Buddha nature. So instead of having some object of worship, we just concentrate on the activity which we do in each moment.

When you bow, you should just bow; when you sit, you should just sit; when you eat, you should just eat.If you do this, the universal nature is there. In Japanese we call it ichigyo-zammai, or "one-act samadhi." Sammai (or samadhi) is "concentration." Ichigyo is "one practice."


Shunryu Suzuki

[DaBee]

Ahhh, I still don't have this life lesson down completely yet. Must have been one of the "agreements" that I took in as a child, being the oldest of 4 and always made to feel responsible for the other 3. Do think I'm getting better as the years go by though. It took the younger siblings a while to learn that I will put my foot down now, whenever their behavior is reflecting their spoiled early years. My resources for giving has diminished as I've gotten older, well, past 50 anyway. Besides that, I want to take a good portion of the extra energies and put it to use in my time with the Grandbabes.
Does anyone have life issues and lessons concerning this? Surely I'm not the only one.
From what the following says, it solidifies my concept that there is no such thing as 100% true altruism.

Putting Yourself First
Meeting Your Own Needs

In life, we are encouraged to think of others first. It is seen as a virtue to selflessly address the needs of parents, children, friends, and loved ones, before or sometimes at the cost of our own needs. But this virtue, like any, is best and most meaningful in moderation. Overly caring for others can easily be an unconscious cry for love or a crutch. Devoting all of your time to others can stand in the way of you caring for yourself. Taking care of yourself can feel selfish while taking care of others can seem easier than dealing with your own issues. But addressing your own needs first in some cases is beneficial and vital not only to your own health and well-being, but to your ability to care for others when needed.

We often find ourselves faced with too many responsibilities and those most readily given up are often those most important to us. Ask yourself why. Do you feel the need to prove yourself by being selfless or hope your sacrifice will be acknowledged? Do you feel selfish for wanting things for yourself? Or is it simply more stressful to contemplate your own needs, because they are the ones requiring the most personal effort on your part? Selfless dedication can be frustrating when we don't find the appreciation or love we desire, which ironically leads to putting more effort into others. But when you care for yourself, you affirm your own worth and boundaries. Don't be afraid to put yourself first now and then. Listen to your inner voice and be fair to yourself as well as to others. Have the courage to face your needs and issues head on without putting them off by helping someone else with theirs.

Avoiding caring for oneself is often indicative of great internal struggle. It can be helpful to recognize that you are as deserving of care as any other human and that you, too, function best when your needs are met. Try, when possible, to do something special, take a break, ask for help, and to give your own needs the attention they deserve.

[PMilam]

Ah, Deb, I am the eldest of 5.. know what you are talking about! I was just a child when I had my first daughter.. 19.
So, all in all I had kids at home for 35 years.
It's been 4 years now, since the last left home. Actually, we left home.. moved out here, as the kids took turns living in the house. Finally sold it around Easter.

It's hard to figure out what to do when they are gone. The primary focus of my whole adult life has been my kids.. and some extras. So.. now, my fulfillment comes with the care of grandkids. It is easier, now, to let everything else go, and stay focused on the kids.. no matter the house is a mess, the yard need mowing.. the garden needs tending. Let's blow bubbles!!!!

That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it!

Yes, they do wear me out. I can only go 3 days in a row.. then, I'm ready to drop.

[Jeannie Jones]

"Wise Words From Nafalia":

Hi, everyone, it's been a long while since I posted, but feel very strongly about what I'm going to say to you. Due to my own experiences with colon cancer, I cannot stress enough the importance of having a colonoscopy done every 2 years (over the age of 50).

The test is a minor inconvenience, and it really won't be that bad for you because you'll be asleep. Unlike me, because I had to be awake because of the valium I take for my vertigo.

The experience that I am now going through with the colon cancer, had I had any signs or warnings beforehand, (i.e., stool smear can show signs) I would not be posting this message today.

To the ladies out there, this is vitally important, because the cases of colon cancer have risen in women to a very high degree in the last few years. Don't put this off a minute longer.

Yes, I am feeling much better (but due to the fact that I stay on a very strict regimen daily), but still there are days when I don't feel so good.

This experience has changed my life totally, and is compounded by other complications, nonetheless, life is still the enchantment.

I tell all persons that I speak with that it is imperative that each of us take the responsibility to take charge of our health care, and not expect the doctors to do it all for us. Whether you choose alternative or traditional, matters not. What matters is that you step up to the plate and take charge.

I'm sending this message with all the thankfulness in my heart for all of you, and the concern that everyone realize that without your health you have nothing at all.

Love you well,

Nafalia

P.S. I am currently reading #4 of the wonderful series of 10 books, "Sword of Truth", by Terry Goodkind. Would like to share with those who are readers, this Terry Goodkind is a fabulous author. Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy! Thanks, bborum, for referring these books to us.

[bborum]

You are so welcome. They have provided me with many hours of enjoyable reading. Although my reading slowed down after the season started, I am on book 9 and still just as entranced as I was in the beginning. What a wonderful author he is, what an imagination and creative ability to tell the story in so many segments and still keep you wanting more. Hope everyone has the pleasure of reading this series!

[DaBee]

I will remember your urging, Nafalia, and talk to the doc about it. I won't have any kind of health coverage until about November, though, so it'll have to wait till then. I've never had a colonoscopy, but my sister has (she has crones disease) and she, for some reason, has to be awake for it too. Doesn't sound like a picnic in the park from what she has to tell. I'm sure that what you're going through now is much much worse than a few hours inconvenience, though. Thank you for the heads up....or is that bottoms up? Guess that was a paltry attempt at humor, but I'm leaving it in just in case it you get a chuckle out of it. I've had cancer and know it's no joke, but sometimes even lame humor is better than none. I do take seriously what you've had to say, believe me.
Sending you love and light and ease and serenity.
love and light
deb

[DaBee]

Patt.....I've been thinking about you and wondering how you're doing with the flu or whatever slammed into you so hard. Sending healing light your way and thoughts of love and speedy recovery.
deb

[PMilam]

Thanks, Deb. I got slammed Tues night. I had been running errands all day and brought Kole out. Fortunately, Craig got home early, so he could watch Kole. It was sudden pain, in my back.. then just a feeling that I was completely drained of energy, and my head was exploding. (not in a migraine way). I've been having fever and can not eat much.
Tonight I finally took a shower, after laying in bed or on the couch for 4 days.. and discovered that I had a rash on my arms and lower legs. Symptoms of tick fever.. and/or a "really bad virus" that's going around.

It has kicked my rear end! I'm taking antibiotics, so hopefully, I started early enough. It's hard to do much of anything... here's the grateful part... Craig has been taking very good care of me.. and the puppies, dogs, chickens and garden.. tho, the garden may be a lost cause.

Anyway, I appreciate your thinking of me.. those are prayers, in my way of thinking. I've got so much to do! And I have to let it go. There is nothing, but my attitude, that I have any control over... well, eating well, things like that..

Nafalia, I pray that your life will continue to bring you blessings, peace and love.
Got to lay back down.. nitey nite.. sweet dreams..

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:
Get well soon P. Milam. Maletha has had "TICK FEVER" for a month or more, different than Lyme Disease and has been taking anti-biotics twice a day for two weeks. She is better now but need to build her immune system back up. She was "lifeless" for weeks and lost almost 20 lbs.
Sending "Pure White LIGHT' to brighten your day and make you stronger.
WISH You well too, Nafalia, Warrior of LIGHT.
Peace,
sTeVe.

[Jeannie Jones]

From Nafalia to PMilam,

Thanks, P, for the good thoughts and good wishes and kind words. Sorry to hear you've been ill. I return to you threefold what you send to me.

These health issues that so many of us are dealing with just seem to envelop our lives at times. Perhaps it's the Universe's way of reminding us to take care of ourselves and put ourselves first once in a while.

Wishing each and every one of you good health, good vibes, and GOOD LUCK :eek:
(Sorry, just couldn't help that. :D )

Love you well (love you, seeing you in wellness),

Nafalia

[DaBee]

I read this over several times, with each reading coming closer to the meaning that was meant for me to have. I hope you enjoy this in its fullness to you.


Buddhist(Zen) wisdom

Small waves and large waves
A small wave in the ocean laments "Poor me. Other waves are so great in size, yet I am so small. Other waves can travel so fast, yet I am so inferior." Another wave replies "This is because you do not know your true being, so you think you are suffering. A wave is your temporary phenomenon. In actual fact, you are water. When you realize that your true being is water, you will no longer be troubled by your physical form, and therefore will no longer suffer."

[DaBee]

StEvE....How is Maletha doing? I've been thinking about her and sending healing light her way. Sounds like tick fever can keep you down for quite a while. Does this come from a tick that is carrying some other kind of disease?
The best to you both
love and light
deb

[Becky Davis]

Please say some prayers for my son Jeremy. As you know he has lupus nephritis. Is having a difficult time this month.

[DaBee]

I think of Jeremy often, Becky. Wonder what all he is going through now. Quite a load he carries, but our Higher Power doesn't give us any more than we can handle. It is so good that he has a loving, dedicated Mom like you. Prayers and healing light sent Jeremy's way; and to his family, also.
love and light
deb

[mtnviewsteve]

Originally posted by Becky Davis:
Please say some prayers for my son Jeremy. As you know he has lupus nephritis. Is having a difficult time this month. :cool:
prayers of PURE WHITE LIGHT being sent to Jeremy to bring Him comfort and strength.

[mtnviewsteve]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DaBee:
[QB] StEvE....How is Maletha doing?
:cool:
Happy Saturday/Sunday DaBee,ALL OTHERS,
Maletha is much improved and well on her way to being her vibrant, foxy, spiritual self. It has been quite a battle, at least 3 months.
Tick Fever or "Human Granulocytic Ehrlichiosis" is caused from the bit of a "Lone Star" tick. Starting with a small rash and affecting the immune system and having symptoms much like anemia, lifelessness, no energy, feeling bad flu-like symptoms.
She was treated with two rounds of anti-biotics, 2/day for 2 weeks. She has responded well to treatment and feels 100% better now.
Hope you are well and doing your finest yet. I always enjoy reading your posts and glad to see you on both boards now. How far "We've" come.
I have had to reduce my work hours to 32 hrs./week due to the discomfort sitting for so many long hours in front of the computer. I am doing/feeling so much better since I found Dr. Janice Vigh in Leslie, AR. Acupuncture has made my life worth living and helped me so much in the "Pain Management" area. Ancient Chinese Medicine has alllowed me what conventional medicine could not, to feel less pain, no drugs and go on carefully with my life.
Have a Happy, In-LIGHTing Saturday on the "Kings", it's a beautiful morning here in our
forest in the Ozarks. :cool:
Blessing of Peace*Love*TwIsTeD-HeAlInGLiGhT
sTeVe.

[Jeannie Jones]

To Becky D. from Nafalia:

Becky, so sorry to hear about your son and all that he must be going through, besides the effect it must be having on you and the rest of the family.

As we grow older, and chronic illnesses take effect in our lives, we can find peace in the fact that at least we have had the time to enjoy much of life without pain or illness.

Thus, when we hear of a young one who has such pain and illness as a part of their daily lives, it cannot help but burden our hearts.

So with all of my prayers, light, and energy, I send this blast of moonbeams and starlight to your son.

As above, so below,

Nafalia

[bborum]

Steve, if you will purchase a memory foam pillow, cut it to fit your chair and where the pain is the most severe, you may find a lot of relief and can sit longer. Also make sure your chair is an ergonomic fit. Makes a world of difference.

[Becky Davis]

Thank you Nafalia. It truly is heartbreaking for me to have to watch him go through this. He is a brave guy though and keeps trying. Thank you for the prayers and light Steve, Nafalia and the rest of you. He so needs and appreciates them. I do think it helps. He is feeling much better this week.

[DaBee]

There has been a lot of discussion on the Open Forum about animals; both domesticated and wild. Read this this morning and thought I'd post to lend to positive thinking about our critter world.//deb
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Pet Medicine
Animals As Healers

All pet owners have had, at one time or another, an experience in which their pet, whether golden retriever, kitten, horse, or iguana, recognized their suffering and offered comfort. Animals, both wild and domesticated, have the ability to sense changes in the body and mind and can positively influence humans in many ways. They can inspire playful thoughts in those discouraged and remind us of the need to nurture both ourselves and others. They can even affect profound physical changes in humans, by lowering our blood pressure and reducing stress. The gentle purring of a cat or a friendly nuzzle from a warm lizard can be a form of healing, and all animals, even those in the wild, are natural healers.

A house pet can tell you many things, if you observe. Your pet will choose to sleep in the places in your home that have the best energy and, when you're ill, may concentrate its attention on the area of your body that needs healing. Stroking soft fur, a smooth, scaly back, or downy feathers can enhance memory, shorten recovery time after an injury, help curb depression, open lines of communication, and even increase a person's chance of survival after a heart attack. For many years, schools, nursing homes, and even prisons have let their charges visit with specially trained animals periodically because a visit with a pet both calms and cheers people. With the elderly, the love of an animal can heighten cognitive ability, movement, and quality of life. Wild animals, too, have their own healing powers. The antics of a silly squirrel can lift the spirits while the industrious ant is an inspiration. A chance encounter with a dolphin or manatee can be life changing.

In mythology, the centaur was the keeper of the art of healing and the Egyptian god Anubis was the healer of the gods. It is not surprising that so many people keep pets or enjoy watching animals in nature. Animals transform us and their unique and beautiful modes of healing are as natural as they are.

[Jeannie Jones]

Note from Nafalia:

I could go into a long post with all the details, but there's really no need, because the end result would still be the end result.

After letting the traditional doctors convince me to do it their way, I conceded to chemo and radiation, only to find that every door that I knocked on for assistance in my home care during the 5-week treatment time, was slammed tightly shut.

Since it is impossible for me to get the assistance at home that the chemo and radiation treatment would require, it appears that I've been left with no alternative but to accept the fact that the cavalry is not on its way. So, to make it short and brief, I now feel that I'm being guided to put this all behind me, and live my life on a day to day basis, with all of its beauty, pleasure and heartache, and just continue on. Be it 6 months, a year, 2 years, or however long, I intend to just enjoy each moment of my life, and be grateful that I have it.

As I said, I could go into a long post with all the details, but there's really no need. The most important thing is that each of you understand that I appreciate all your thoughts and prayers, and your light and energy.

As we will it, so shall it be,

Nafalia