Gratitudinally Speaking

[Jeannie Jones]

The elephant's doin' the happy dance for you, Patt. Oh, this is all such great news! Sounds like you've got all the bases covered, plenty of food, cleaning, and the good drugs, AND, of course, your HEALTH!

So enjoy this beautiful day on your porch with all of the above. Love to you, my dear.

[DaBee]

Patt...this is good news to add to the list of thankfulness on this beautiful day in the Ozarks!
love and light
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

WOW, YOU GOT IT ALL!, from NAFALIA:

Wow, Patt, you got it all! Good food, good drugs, good husband, good life, and last but not least, good health! AND a porch! Can't think of anyone more deserving.

Love you well,

Nafalia

[mtnviewsteve]

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Patt,
So-oo-o glad you're home and all is well.
Love and LiGhT,
sTeve
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[mtnviewsteve]

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Very "Gratefull" for the rain and a lower risk for fire in our wooded paradise. In spite of everything we are "always" provided for.
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[DaBee]

I so agree, sTeVe, that we are always provided for. It felt so good to wake this morning with dark clouds and everything covered with a rain that is soaking in. Don't get me wrong, I love the bright sunshine and all of the perkiness of fair weather, but know too that to really appreciate the fair, we must experience the contrasting environment. This contrast has been appreciated even more since several years ago when I moved from the mountains just east of San Diego. The weather was always fair; rarely rained, sun shining. It about got boring, actually. It was good to hear thunder and see lightning and experience rain and snow. I'm so thankful to be right where I AM!
love and light and everything moist
deb-o-thehailyousay :D !

[DaBee]

This was a good reading for me this morning, so I wanted to share it with y'all. Actually, what they call "Red Flags" I've always called "Woman's Intuition". I believe in "Man's Intuition", too. I don't think there's any less in men; just feel that maybe they don't share it as much as women do. I think that maybe we're just, for the most part, a bit chattier. Before I dig myself in any deeper here, I realize that whoever wrote this piece avoided the stereotypes by just calling "it" Red Flags. Smart person ;)

Warning Signs
Paying Attention To Red Flags

Just as the universe wants to provide for our needs, it also seeks to protect us from dangerous situations, destructive relationships, and even minor inconveniences. Frequently in our lives, perhaps everyday, we encounter psychic red flags warning us of potential problems or accidents. We may not always recognize the signs. However, more often than not, we may choose to ignore our intuition when it tells us that "something just isn't right."

Red flags often come in the form of feelings urging us to pause for a moment, listen to our intuition, and reconsider. We may even experience a "bad" feeling in our bellies. This is a red flag letting us know that there may be a problem. We may not even know what the red flag is about. All we know is that the universe is trying to wave us in a different direction. We just have to pay attention and go another way. We may even wonder whether we are paranoid or imagining things. However, when we look back at a situation or relationship where there were red flags, it becomes easy to understand exactly what those warning signs meant. More often than not, a red flag is not a false warning. Rather, it is the universe's way of informing us, through our own innate guidance system, that our path best lies elsewhere.

We may try to ignore the red flags waving our way, dismissing our unease as illogical. Yet it is always in our best interest to pay attention to them. For example, we may meet someone who outwardly seems perfect. They are intelligent, attractive, and charming. Yet, for some reason, being around them makes us feel uneasy. Any interactions we have with them are awkward and leave us feeling like there is something "off" about the situation. This is not necessarily a bad person. But, for some reason, the universe is directing us away from them. Red flags are intended with our best interests at heart. No harm can ever come from stopping long enough to heed a red flag. Pay attention to any red flags that pop up. The universe is always looking out for you.

[PMilam]

I can't bring myself to write this.. so, I will print Craig's email from yesterday, to our friends here..

Dear Ones: Her is the latest update on Patt. She is recovering great from her recent surgery, she saw the surgeon today and he took out some of her staples and thought her wound looked great. Patt said: ”Then he said those words I hate to hear: the news is not good”. The supposed scar in her left arm pit was cancer/it was right at the spot where her sentinel node biopsy was done at the time of her mastectomy. Surgeon says a certain percentage(5-10 %) of sentinel node biopsies are false negative and hers was false negative. The chest wall cancer was cleanly excised. Surgeon says it is a good thing she had recurrence on her chest wall, because if the arm pit cancer had not been discovered she might have had wide spread metastases. PET scan done recently showed no metastases.

* So now she will most certainly have radiation(she was somehow holding out hope that she would have no radiation) and* probably some kind of chemo, probably tamoxifen or similar drug. That will be up to the oncologist. She has an appointment with the oncologist next Thursday,1-19-06.


***************** Patt is, of course, disappointed, and is just generally tired. Julia’s kids are coming out today to see her, so that will help. Jude is back from Mexico and is with Patt right now, and Donna is coming from Austin today for a week. Patt will do radiation in Fayetteville and will probably just stay there during the week with Ben (get ready to support her Ben) and/or Michael and Paula and/or Shine. Will just have to see what the schedule is.

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The sun is shining, we are alive and kickin (some harder than others), and we press on. Your thoughts, hopes and prayers are being felt, keep up the good work. We love you all.*** Craig

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The second shift has moved in.. my sisters. Thank God for them, for Mary and Linda that spent the first 5-6 days with me. It's not so much the physical pain that is keeping me down.. it's the uncertainty of my future. I know that in 6 mo. this could just be another part of my history, never to darken my spirit again. For now... the questions.. the plans for the future, the grandkids.. my fantasy of having more room added to this house.. the gigantic garden in my dreams...

Keep me in your prayers.

Blesssings be.

[Gaylord Wright]

This ol' atheist prays for Patt...... smile.gif

[mtnviewsteve]

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The "Universal LiGhT" of AGES shines her protective healing powers to you.
Blessings,
sTeVe
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[Jeannie Jones]

Originally posted by PMilam:
...Surgeon says it is a good thing she had recurrence on her chest wall, because if the arm pit cancer had not been discovered she might have had wide spread metastases. PET scan done recently showed no metastases... Dear heart, this is VERY good news! I know you're not happy that they found something, but no metastases is GREAT!


...I know that in 6 mo. this could just be another part of my history, never to darken my spirit again...This is our prayer for you, Patt. Many prayers and positive energy going out to you. Know those cards and letters are comin' in.


...my fantasy of having more room added to this house.. the gigantic garden in my dreams... Later, sweetie. Hang on to those dreams, and keep them with you while you're going through your treatments. Remember, you don't have to give them up, just put off the "doing" of them for a while.

So much love going your way, Patt,

Jeannie

[DaBee]

Thanks so much for sharing what Craig had to say. What a wonderful husband you have, Patt.
Sometimes I just don't know what to say. Don't think I really have any kind of advice to share. Well, except that when I was going through the cancer part of my life a few years ago, I really tried to make a concerted effort to stay right in the moment and enjoy it, whether it was spending time with someone or just being quiet and meditating. I can now remember some of the moments as ones of healing and calmness. I especially liked to float on my back down the river, watching the clouds and trees go by. Seems like I've told it before that I still like to do that in my meditations. Do you still have the trampoline set up outside that you can lay on and gather some sunshine and visions of clouds?
Enjoy all of your family and friends and the taking care of you that they do. You are in my thoughts and I send loving healing light your way.
love and light and namaste
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

IN MY MIND'S EYE, from NAFALIA:

Patt, in my mind's eye I hold this pink candle, pink being the color of love. I have annointed this candle with an oil called "Moon Goddess". I will keep this candle lit at all times, and I know that the Goddess will hold you in her heart, for she is our Mother, and will watch after you and keep you safe.

When you feel depression, loneliness or fear, do not give in to it. Wrap yourself in the light of the pink candle that I hold in my mind's eye for you. Do not allow one flower not to bloom in your garden, in your mind's eye. Do not allow one board not to be nailed in the enlargement of your home. Hold fast to the creative visualization of this all taking place.

The gift that I send to you is the gift of Universal Love. No greater love is there than this. Let not one word come from my mouth, which is not felt in my heart. Remember that all the cards and letters that come in for you, when you open them, all that will fly out is Love and Healing.

Hang on, hang in, and hang out, for we are all there with you, all the way. We shall talk the walk with you as you go.

Love you well,

Nafalia

PS: Do not ever let it slip your mind for one second that you are a daughter of the Goddess, and her Love will keep you out of harm's way!!!

I wish you shelter from the storm,
A cozy fire to keep you warm,
But this, much more than this,
I wish you love.

[Becky Davis]

I'm so sorry Patt. It pains me that you will have to go through this misery. I wish I could think of the right words to bring you comfort, but at this moment, I am at a loss.
You are so very lucky to have such a wonderful group of people who dearly love you. Your family is so special. But, who am I to tell you that?
I think about you and pray for you often.
You have given me so much strength. Thank You.

[PMilam]

I am filled with gratitude for all the outpourings of love.

In my questioning.. why why why... comes part of the answer.. to awaken to the love and caring that surrounds me.. from my closest family to friends, to those of you that I have come to feel so close to, in this place.. the Gratitude Journal.

It is wonderful and also amazing that such support and help come through this.. power of geekfest.


I was trying to remember the stages that include denial, anger.. finally to acceptance.. seems I am weaving through them over and over..

love and sweet, joyful dreams,
Patt

[mtnviewsteve]

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Has anyone heard from Warrior Nafalia in this or any other dimension? Hope ALL is well SISTER LiGhT.
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[DaBee]

When I was gazing at the beautiful moon tonight, I caught sight of our Warrior Goddess, Nafalia, stepping from star to star, connecting the dots.

[DaBee]

Treatise on the True Sudden Enlightenment School
Opening up Mind and revealing Reality-Nature

Question: How do we accord with inner truth to enter into enlightenment?

Answer: When you do not give rise to false states of mind and are forever formless, this is according.

Question: What is according to the Path?

Answer: A straightforward mind not attached to anything accords with the Path.

Question: What is falsity?

Answer: Falsity is not knowing inherent mind.

Question: What is error?

Answer: Error is giving rise to all sorts of objects.

Question: What is inherent mind: What is false mind?

Answer: If you differentiate, it is false mind. If you do not differentiate, it is inherent mind.

Question: Where are they born from, the mind that differentiates and the mind that does not?

Answer: The mind that differentiates is born from error. The mind that does not differentiate is born from correct wisdom.

Question: Considered together, where are they born from?

Answer: There is nowhere they are born.

Question: If there is nowhere they are born, how can you say there is error or correct wisdom?

Answer: If you do not know inherent mind, you will proceed with all sorts of error. If you know inherent mind, this is correct wisdom.

Question: You just spoke of knowing and not knowing; what are these born from?

Answer: Knowing is born from awakening. Not knowing is born from false thinking.

Question: All sentient beings are in false thinking; how can they also be in correct wisdom?

Answer: All sentient beings are within correct wisdom; there is really no false thinking.

Question: Right now we are engaged in false thinking; how can we be said to have correct wisdom?

Answer: In reality, you are fundamentally without false thinking. When you call it false thinking, this is like a person drinking a potion that dilates the pupils, then looking for a needle in the sky: in the sky there is really no needle.

Question: Given that fundamentally false thinking does not exist, what are all today's practitioners trying to cut off in order to seek the Path?

Answer: Nothing is cut off and there is no path that can be sought.

Question: If there is no path to be sought and nothing to be cut off, then why in the scriptures did the World Honored One speak of cutting off false thinking?

Answer: In reality the World Honored One did not teach cutting off false thinking. As for cutting off false thinking: without detaching from false thinking, all sentient beings falsely feel that there is something attained and something cut off; they falsely perceive that the phenomena of false thinking exist. Following the concepts of sentient beings, the World Honored One spoke provisionally in terms of phenomena of false thinking. In reality, he did not speak a word of it. He was like a good doctor prescribing medicine for a disease. If there is no disease, he does not prescribe medicine.

- Taken from "Zen Dawn-Early Zen Texts from Tun Huang" Edited by J.C. Cleary(1986) Shambhala

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If you've ever listened to a student questioning a teacher, sometimes it feels like the above excerpt. Sometimes it can be difficult for the student to let go of the drive to "understand." The problem with this kind of knowledge is how limited any answer can be for the questioner. But the other side of this dialogue is that when you are listening or reading a piece like this, a stillness comes over the listener that is closer than any answer we could receive. Like being caught in a whirlpool of thought, the endless churning can throw us into a center of calm. At some point thought settles, and the mind is clear once again.

[DaBee]

I've been thinking about everyone today. You're all in high lighted section smile.gif . How y'all been?
I'm especially wondering what you are up to, Patt. How have you been feeling?
Also thinking about Nafalia and wondering if she lost those couple of pounds that were causing her back to hurt. Are you getting walks in, NN?
I must say that, though I really need to be getting exercise, it feels like the RA is keeping me pretty still. Maybe getting out in this sunshine today will warm me bones up. I'm having all kinds of changes of docs and am waiting to get an appt. in Fayetteville with a new (to me) Rheumatologist. Looks like the earliest time is in May. Geezzzzzzzzzzz. Then again, yeaaaaa!!!!!!!!
love and light
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

Fun piece, Deb, about false-thinking. Thanks for posting it.

Sure glad you got a rheumydoc closer to home. I go to neuro in F'ville tomorrow, my follow-up to the Botox shots. Got lots to talk to him about, including the 12-hr. sleep marathons, and how the Botox is not doing the whole job. Since the treatment, I have felt waaaaay over-medicated, and he only let me step down by 1 dose of 1 prescription.

Patt, you're always in my heart, and often in my thoughts. Particularly the last couple of days. Let us know how you're doing, won't you? Hope you're feeling okay, bunky.

Love to all,

Jeannie

[Becky Davis]

Excercise always makes me feel better the day I do it. But watch out the next day...that is when I can hardly move. Dabee, do you do yoga?
It is so hard to find a good doctor. My son can't stand rheumatologists. Doesn't think they are good for anything.
He has a doctor who is a pediatrician and an internist. He has liked him better than any he has gone too. As well as his nephrologist.
He did have a wonderful rheumatologist visit him in the hospital in LR, who totally understood lupus, but he was no on the HMO's list.
Hot Springs is the worst town I have ever lived to find a good doctor.

[Jeannie Jones]

Well, I just lost a post here. I'll tune back in tomorrow, hoping to hear from Patt after her dr.'s appt. Love to all.........

[mtnviewsteve]

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Well, went to Jonesboro to see neuro-surgeon and found out no operation was necessary or would help with my back pain and right leg. They are trying now to say spinal degeneration is what caused my injury. Bull*#@t! My injury is what caused my back pain and injury. Looks like I still have a long battle for justice, if there is such a thing with Workmans Compensation.
Well, me and "Cane" have been friends for almost 2 years, why not a lifetime?
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[Jeannie Jones]

Y'know, Steve, I wonder if somewhere on down the line Botox injections might be a way to go for you. It IS a nerve block, and that's where your pain is coming from, isn't it? As I'm sure I posted somewhere, I had Botox in the back of my neck and right shoulder for the cervical dystonia about 5 weeks ago, and when the Medicare Summary came, it showed that new neurodoc also intentionally "destroyed" a nerve.

As you know, Nafalia has also had Botox at certain places along the spine, and felt immediate relief as well. Just something to think about.

[Jeannie Jones]

Originally posted by DaBee:
When I was gazing at the beautiful moon tonight, I caught sight of our Warrior Goddess, Nafalia, stepping from star to star, connecting the dots. Deb, you caught me! And I thought I was being sooooooo discrete as I stepped from star to star, weaving the grid around us all.

I know how you caught me, Deb. You saw the silver moonbeams following me. (I forgot about that part.)

Now there is a grid that has my footprints on it. And, of course, I did a cartwheel or 2 every now and again. ;)

Love you well,

Nafalia

[PMilam]

No news is good news

For now anyway.
I saw the oncologist today, and well.. he didn't have any answers for me. There are more tests results that will be determining factors.
As I'm understanding more, perhaps I can keep you abreast (ha ha ha) a bit better. As it turns out, the lymph node was 5 lymph nodes all wadded up together, all inhabited by cancer cells. For sure.. as for sure as I can be at this point, I will have chest wall radiation. Depending on the other two test results, maybe in the armpit.. which can cause complications.. like lymphedema.. which is freaky to me!!
Just too many unanswered questions.. and seems the docs are not communicating much, nor putting their heads together.
Seeing the waiting room there shows me that their are many, many people waiting for their perfect solution, too.
Makes you want to jump and shout!

But.. another week.. in limbo.. oh.. no more.. limbo no longer exists.. wonder what happened to all those babies that went there!!

So, I have actually had a very good recovery time. Friends and family have been here every day, since the day before surgery.
My house is not only straightened.. it's CLEAN! And... AND... Sis, Donna and Bro Rick insulated my shop! It's ready for siding!!
The space left vacant above my kitchen stove now has a fabulous beachy mosaic with dancing figures!! Thanks to Denise, Donna, Jude, Rick, Christine.. and just a little bit of me..

We have had wonderful talks, laughs, cries, spoken of all the universe of subjects, love, art, children, food, birds, water, travel, childhood memories, we've sung songs.. we've danced a beautiful dance around each other. All that came to help, found help for themselves, too, in the giving, in the selflessness in the desire to assist Craig and I through this time.

I cannot express how beloved I feel. How blessed. My heart is so filled with love.

I thank each of you. If not for all the energy.. brought here physically, or sent here through the ether, the internet, snail mail... I don't see how I could possibly feel this good, this hopeful for the future.. no matter what it brings.

I know it will bring more love.

Love is all that matters.

Please know that I acknowledge all that you have given me.


love,
Patt

[Becky Davis]

Aw Patt...now you've gone and made me cry. Stay blest.

[Becky Davis]

Nafalia..while you're out swinging from thestars..don't forget to carry those moonbeams home in a jar! Then we can all find our way to your 'special' place.


Prayers for Michelle today..light and love.

[mtnviewsteve]

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Guide Us to Our Truest Selves


Boundless Sea of Love and Energy, our SPIRIT,
may all your dreams for us come true:
your motherly imaginings, and your fatherly hopes,
your creative purposes everywhere in nature.
Guide us to our truest selves, co-creators of this environment.
Make us worthy inheritors
of the astonishing evolutionary reality in which we live.
May it be so.

- William Cleary
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[Jeannie Jones]

Originally posted by PMilam:
...In my questioning.. why why why... comes part of the answer.. to awaken to the love and caring that surrounds me.. from my closest family to friends, to those of you that I have come to feel so close to, in this place.. the Gratitude Journal... Yes, Patt, it seems like this should be such a simple thing ... opening the heart ... but those of us who feel injured, whether early on or in adulthood, have built up such walls of protection that it can take time and effort to kiss them good-bye, once we no longer need them. They served us, and served us well when we needed them, so I thanked and blessed them in the releasing process.

One thing that was helpful for me, was to lay back in the bathtub with my hands crossed over my chest. I would visualize my heart opening as a flower opening, speaking whatever words, opening my arms, eventually to bring them up and open, laying back in the arms of God. I did this for YEARS, then found that the more Love filled me, the less room there was to carry the defenses.

Apparently you have no need of the above, as your walls have come down, due to the concentration of your cancer and the undeniable demonstrations of abundant love that surround you. Sweet. Very sweet. Now you can bless the dis-ease and let it go, dispersing for the good of the Universe.

I know this was from an old post, but it just floated to the surface again, for me, today, after reading your newest news. Happy happy. smile.gif

Love to you and all,

Jeannie

[Jeannie Jones]

THIS ONE'S FOR YOU, from NAFALIA:

Patt, Jeannie just read me your post about the wonderful work that's been done on your house, all the love that is surrounding you, and when you're surrounded with that much love, it's hard for that doubt to creep in there. So we'll all just keep doing the same thing until, as they say, "this too shall pass".

This kissy-face is one just for you ... MMMWWWAAAAAAAAA!

Oh, by the way, I have a small amount of water that was left out under the final full moon of the last millennium. I save it for very special occasions. So I will get that water out and sprinkle a few sprinkles around to send special energy from the enchanted water to you.

Love you well,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

OUCH!!! :eek: , from NAFALIA:

Saw my radiation oncologist yesterday, and when he came in the room he had my chart open and the very first thing he said was, "That was really a nasty radiation burn you were hospitalized with for a week". (Pat, this is not to put any fear into you of any kind, this was just how it went for me.)

This was my first 3-month visit after treatment had stopped. Dr. Albritten said, "It's a good thing we stopped at 15 instead of going on to the full 29-treatment cycle". Of course, each time I see the radiation oncologist, he does a pelvic and a rectal, because he has to go up inside me to see what's going on, since mine was of the colon, and all the radiation was in the pelvic area.

We talked about the fact that when I'm on my feet for a very long period of time I feel a great deal of pressure in the bladder area (sort of like when you're pregnant and the baby's dropped down and its head is on your bladder, and the pressure that that causes).

The dr. told me the bladder is one area they watch very closely for 2 years, because of the effects of radiation in the pelvic area. What I was having was bladder spasms. My bladder is spasmodic now, and that's why it gets to hurting when I'm on my feet for a while. He gave me a prescription for a pill to take which will help control the bladder spasms.

He also did a uteral exam, gave me estrogen cream with a push-applicator to use inter-uterally daily. He told me he does not want me taking estrogen pills, since I've already had cancer, it would increase my chances of breast cancer.

I had lost the weight that they had me gain before the chemo, and am back to my normal weight, and I lost the weight very quickly. He told me to be very aware of my weight, and if I had a weight loss, to notify him immediately.

As he examined farther up into the uterus, he found many, many very tender spots, due to the drying out of the uterus, because of the radiation burn, and the drying of the uteral walls from that. He told me to be sure and use that cream every day. At the same time, he ran across a few adhesions, and he asked me if there was someone with me, and I told him "No", and he said "If there was someone, I would give you something for pain, and take care of these adhesions now".

Well, there I was, feet in stirrups, in position, so I told him, "Just do it, so I don't have to make an appointment and come back and have it done". He told me, he said, "Now this is going to be painful" (well, little did I know how painful it would be) but being the foolish person that I am, I said, "Do it anyway". :rolleyes: So he did, and I got sick and threw up and nearly passed out, and hollered out a four-lettered obscenity, and he told me "I'm sorry, but I knew it was going to be very painful".

All in all, he stayed with me for a while, and then his nurse, Kathy, stayed with me for quite a while, 'til I was able to pull myself up and together, and drag myself home. I did as he told me and layed around and stayed in the bed the rest of the day. And he told me I might have a little bleeding, which there was a little, but not much.

Today is much better, still a little sore, a little tender, but all in all I've survived it. When I told my sister what we had done, she said, "You're more of a woman than I am". I said, "Well, when you don't know and never been through it before, you can be very brave, but you can believe me, I won't be THAT brave again". Will not see him again until April.

I asked for it, I got it!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Nafalia

[Becky Davis]

Criminy Nafalia, you are making me ache.

[DaBee]

Oh my, what a day you had, Nafalia. Guess it's a good thing that you didn't know what you were in store for prior to the appointment. At least you weren't stressed for days and days. Do they usually do the adhesion procedure w/o anesthetic? Ouch!
Overall did the Doc think you were doing well with the recuperation? It seems to me that you are doing very very well since what you were facing 6 months ago.
Maybe you should teach Goddess Warrior classes. Let me know where to sign up!
love and light
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

NO PAIN MEDICINE, from NAFALIA:

No, Deb dear, it is not usually done in that way, but since I was alone and had to get home by myself, I could not take the pain medication, and since I was already "in position" and did not want to have to make an appt. to go back for it, nor did I want to have to try to find someone to go with me to get it done, and the adhesions were not humongous.

Since I had no idea what was going to take place, I just opened my mouth and said, "Do it now". But you can believe me, that was a one time and one time only thing I will ever do like that.

It was just a matter of convenience, or so I thought!!! :eek:

There are times when I need to stop this "thinking" thing!

Love you well,

Nafalia

P.S.: As soon as I can gather the strength, I will let you know when the warrior classes begin. ;)

[PMilam]

Ouch is right!! Dang!!!

I feel that way about saying.. without another second's thought.. we'll wait til after Christmas to do the surgery..
Of course we all do what we need to learn.. I learned I never want to do anything like that again...

Tra, la, la, the lord is come..{cancer cancer cancer}.. Noel noel, the angels did sing.. {cancer cancer cancer}... got those things wrapped... {cancer cancer cancer}.... I'll make the dressing.. {cancer cancer cancer}

You get the idea... hard to be festive when you will have surgery 5 days after.. and what do you do those 5 days.. sit around, take down the tree and think.. was that my last Christmas? Sucked...

Not like searing pain, tho.. I hate searing pain!!!

I just looked at a video of the wreck.. turns my stomach.

And.. in the spirit of Gratitude... Thank all that is God/good/love in the universe, for leaving Shane to us for more time. I wish I could just rock him like a baby.


Hang on there Warrior! Blessed Be!

[DaBee]

Patt...That Dr. Seuss quote is just the best signature line yet.
I imagine that you are rocking Shane like a baby....without actually holding him. Bet you are just the best mother-in-law ... right up there with me :D . Nothin' but love love love for all of the little cubs and cubettes, huh? Becky is one of us good 'uns, too. MotherMoon12 wrote the book, it seems. Many others, also, that don't post much or even post at all. We won't even get into the grandma mode of things! We'll have to ask sTeVe about grandpaville.
In the past I always wonder about those that, for one reason or another, did not have children. So many of my friends don't have kids or grandkids, but they so love children - and are sooo good communicating with them. I read something somewhere that explained it all...or at least to my satisfaction. It said that, as with reincarnation, we all experience different things in each lifetime. When we learn the lessons, especially if they are really big and difficult ones, and entail many events during each lifetime, we kind of get a break the next time around. It went on to say that most people that do not have children during this lifetime had many children the one before and probably during several lifetimes back. Basically, they're getting a break and an approach to life in a different way. I asked a very close friend about this concept and she told me that she'd always wondered why she never had children, even though she wanted to and thought that she would be a wonderful mother if she did. She said that when I told her this concept, it rang so true, deep, deep inside. Because I received such a positive response from her about a very personal subject, I thought I'd share that with everyone. Throughout my life, the majority of close friends that I've had have not had children. It seems to me that they were put into my life because of their wisdom and sensitivity about children that I possibly wasn't as experienced with. They helped me so much just by radiating that certain kind of mother/child love that they knew so well, even without knowing it.
I breathe a sigh of relief for both you, Patt, and Nafalia. I know that whatever y'all are and have gone through with these physical problems is a part of your lives that have been put there for your growth and experience in this lifetime. I can say the same thing about myself with some pretty large hills to scale. Somehow, somewhere, we are touching someone else's life with our courage and wisdom and love. I also feel that expressing our humanness as we are able to do on this forum, is there for others to read, as well as ourselves. I don't do well as a martyr nor a hypocondriacish person. I never feel that I come across as either when writing on this thread, nor does anyone else. The expression freedom is healing in itsself.
love and light
deb-o-rah rah rah

[mtnviewsteve]

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So many times I just have to "mentally rock" my SpIrItChIlD, little girl Emma. We don't get to see her as much as we'd like. Maletha loves her as much as I do and has the
"goddess-communication" I lack. Guess I know they are where they're supposed to be and I know WE are, buried deep in the woods.
:cool:

[PMilam]

I feel a little weird posting this.. an email from my sister and one from her daughter.

I post in the spirit of... we don't know what, when or how we are teaching.. but, that we always teach.

I know that each of us holds in our hearts that we are teaching love, strength and peace.. but we don't always know.. and we don't always get feedback to know when and what we have taught..

Though I am proud to have these.. I don't mean to be bragging... but encouraging to others to be confident in yourself..


I have to tell you this, Patti and I hope that you do not mind my sharing it with everyone else on the list. The other night, when I was there, Craig and I were sitting in the living room. You were preparing to go sit in a tub for awhile. You had a "second thought" that you wanted to share with us, so you walked back into the living room. You were wearing your pants, but nothing on top. You stood there, with your hands relaxed on your hips and you started telling us what you wanted to say. I have no idea what it is you were saying. I was fixed...mesmerized...and awed that you were standing there with your chest bared and your head high...facing us straight on. I was overcome with awe and I was deeply humbled. I weep each time I bring this image to my mind. Your strength, your courage, your obvious comfort in your own skin. I realized that though I am "intact" physically, I still have a hard time making peace with my own body...with being inside my own skin. There you stood, having been ravaged by the scalpel and this damnable disease, and you stood naked to the world saying I am not my body...announcing to Universe...I*AM WHO I TRULY AM!
*
The trip to Arkansas was wonderful, and the Journey in Arkansas was precious and priceless to me. I learned so much from you while I was in your presence. Because of you, I am (as Rick said), "...not where I want to be, but it is a whole lot better than where I used to be." Thank you for sharing your courage, strength, wisdom, humor and love with me. But mostly, than you for sharing your SELF with me. You have, and continue to, teach me a better way of Being.
*
Humbly and Respectfully yours,
Donna


At the risk of adding inappropriate humor, I must say
that childhood included many breast sightings , yours
and others. Piney Creek was our topless beach! In the
land of transplanted Texas hippies who did what they
wanted when and how they pleased, I knew you were all
comfortable with your bodies, your opinions, AND your
breasts. You have always been a spirit that spilled
past the boundaries of your body. It always seemed
that you were beyond it, beyond thinking about it or
being defined by it. I love you.
--Phaedra

[DaBee]

Thank you for sharing, Patt. It will stay with me always.
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

Oh, Patt, those are wonderful msgs. indeed. Yes, proof that the lesson "landed", and another slice of your life for us to get to know you more deeply.

Hand to heart, then out to you, dear.

Yeah, sounded good at first, putting IT off 'til after the holidays, but I sure see how it colored all the days in between. You painted that well. Should be about time to be getting those wonderful test results back, eh?

A VIDEO of the wreck! Wow! What an age we live in that makes this possible! Wonderful that you were able to go to them so quickly, Patt. Holding all y'all in my heart.

JJ

[Jeannie Jones]

COMFORT WITHIN, from NAFALIA:

Patt, Jeannie just read me the letters from your sister and niece. What great, impressive reminders they are, that our bodies are no more than a vessel for our spirits to come to this third-dimensional planet to experience whatever it is that we need to experience.

Here is a quote that I once heard, and I think it is so very, very true:

"We're not what we should be,
We're not what we could be,
But thank God we're not what we were."

My hope is that in your sharing your letters, that it will help all women of all ages and all sizes to be proud of their bodies and who they are, no matter what their bodies have experienced.

Patt, you are a powerful inspiration, and a very Divine spirit, and we all need you very much.

With Love,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

THE FEMALE WITHIN, from NAFALIA:

In the 13 years in which I did volunteer work in the field of Domestic Violence, (TX, AR, MO) I met and saw so many women who had been bitterly beaten-down and mutilated emotionally, til they did not even know that they were women.

It did not make any difference how young or pretty, or how hold and wrinkled they were, the one thing they all had in common was that they no longer had self-esteem. Having worked with this for so long, I watched as it graduated from one phase to another, as they were coming out of it.

The average abused woman will leave at least 7 times before she can stay gone, and there is nothing which makes me more irate than to hear someone say, "she must like it or she'd leave". Out of the ignorant people's mouths, when I would hear these words, I would just come unglued.

Little did they know that more women are killed leaving, trying to leave, or are killed after they have left, and as compassionate a person as I am, when I would hear that statement, I just could not find compassion in my heart for a person who would say such a stupid thing.

In this wonderful, beautiful country of ours, a woman or child is abused every 15 seconds. Statistics say that 1 in every 3 homes has abuse in it. And when I was working in the field, I found myself doing this all the time. As I was riding down a street, I would be counting the houses and going, "1, 2, 3, abuse. 1, 2, 3, abuse."

Domestic violence is considered a dirty issue, an issue which few people want to touch. An issue which is very hard to raise funds for, for the organizations, and one which is probably the saddest of all that I've ever dealt with, because the cycle can only be broken through education, and people in abusive situations are so brain-washed that they do not realize that there is a way to break the cycle.

After all the years that I spent working in it, I finally had to leave it behind me. But I felt when I left that if I had managed to change one woman's point of view as to her own self-worth, I had been successful in my endeavors.

So you see, Patt, why what your sister and your niece wrote is so powerful? If I had been able to have those letters when I was working with domestic violence, you would have been the inspiration I would have used to help so many more women. Bless you and your powerful spirit.

As we will it,
So shall it be,

Nafalia

P.S.: Blessed be the woman who has the strength to walk away, and hold tight to the ones who do not have the strength to get away, and let us all pray for the children who are caught, and do not understand, for they are children.

[DaBee]

Nafalia, I'm sure that you inspired many more than 1 person while you worked in the capacity of volunteer of domestic violence victims programs. Your compassion and passion reaches through the red tape and protocol, especially with you being a volunteer. My hat is off to you, in a sweeping, bowing gesture. I'd curtsy, but never really got that down well and I think bowing is so much more elegant and eloquent. Oh my, how I digress.
I have dealt with domestic violence, but not in a program situation. I've been a victim myself. I've witnessed it in my family and with friends, much more than I care to count. It can be so devastating and once it happens to a person, nothing is ever quite the same. Especially when it takes away the child-like naivity (of one never having dealt with abuse before) from someone at any age. When a person has to really fear another person, there is something about our human nature that is just not right.
I took a course, years ago, on rape crisis intervention. It had to do with being there with a rape victim during police interviewing and hospital procedures. For several years I worked the front office of a motel in Texas. The city/county would place abuse victims, usually women with young children, in the motel for a couple of days. The problem with it was that, though it was a good thing that they were taken out of the situation, which normally involved drugs and alcohol, they most likely had no place to go once they left the motel. During their stay, I made a point of watching their room closely and also of talking to these women. They were so scared and shaken up and did not know what they were going to do about anything. Usually their families abandoned them for one reason or another. There was no longer a facility to help house the women and children in that county. The financial support just wasn't there. I know that there exists such a facility in Carroll County. I do plan to volunteer there once my health stabilizes. I believe that especially people that have been in abusive situations would be of great emotional support to the people placed in the women's shelter. I do wonder, though, how women deal with the victim status. Hopefully, not carrying it with them the rest of their lives and also the children that have most likely witnessed this and will have to deal with it emotionally at some point.
Once again, thanks for people like you, NN, that can make such an difference. The sensitivity and awarenessthat you possess is what makes that difference.
love and light
deb

[mtnviewsteve]

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Buddhist Wisdom
Buddhist wisdom about searching for truth

"Don't keep searching for the truth, just let go of your opinions."
Buddha
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[DaBee]

That's a good one, bRo. sTeVe. Read it early this morning and have been thinking how true it is. The simplicity of the freedom that can be yours from this seemingly simple (but not easy) task in enormous. It seems that the Toltec thinking is quite similar.
L&L
deb

[PMilam]

Here's another that goes well with that...


It often takes more courage to change one's opinion than to stick to it.
Georg Christoph Lichtenberg(1742-1799)
Physicist and philosopher

[Jeannie Jones]

WORDS OF THANKS, from NAFALIA:

Deb, Jeannie just read me your post, and I did only what I felt I was led to do, so there is no need for you to bend your knee to anyone, ever. I thank you for the bow, but it was not necessary, for I, too, was a victim of domestic violence.

That's why I became involved. And then it became my passion and a goal that I set for myself, to reach out and touch as many women as I could for as long as I could.

I would still be doing it (against my doctors' desires) if I were in good enough health. But I think it is obvious that I did my time, and it became time to pass it on to another.

No matter how little or how much time that we volunteer to this issue, every moment makes a change.

Even the donation of used clothing, left-over make-up, anything that could help a woman get on her feet or in any way help her to get out and find a job or a home, is the issue.

Normally when a woman leaves, it's with nothing, not even her purse, for that is the first thing a man will take, her purse. For in her purse is her social security card, her driver's license, etc. In other words, he takes her identity. She has to go through the entire process before she can go out and find a job.

Most women walk away with the children and the clothes on their back, and know that they were lucky to have that. So once more, let me repeat:

Blessed be the woman who has the strength to get out.
Hold tight to those who cannot.
Pray for the children, because they are caught in
something that they do not understand.

And so it is,

Nafalia

P.S.: It is important to realize that when you have gotten out of a domestic violence situation and gone on with your life, you are no longer a "victim", but a "survivor"!!!

[Becky Davis]

Very true Nafalia.

[DaBee]

P.S.: It is important to realize that when you have gotten out of a domestic violence situation and gone on with your life, you are no longer a "victim", but a "survivor"!!! It is very important, Nafalia, but one of the hardest parts of the psychological recovery. In most people, without help, and even with help, it is very difficult to make this transition.
The one point about this shift in consciousness that I'm always trying to be aware of, for myself and for others, is that when you are a victim (long after the abuse, even) you continue to be victimized until you are in the survivor mode.
That same perpetrator, even though he or she may be in prison or dead or out of your life for years, is still victimizing you. Only you, the victim/survivor, can make the positive shift.
On a personal note: I never like to stay on a negative subject for any length of time, but it feels like it is important to make myself perfectly clear about this one matter. I thank you for initiating it, NN, and for you relaying the message, JJ. It might be for nothing more than just to put the words down to remind myself, but the reason may also be to put the words down for someone else to read. I am learning to follow my instincts or higher power or higher self, or whatever you want to call he/she/it/they. I've had enough serendipitous synchronicity happen in my life to always follow that positive Hado, wherever it guides me.
I love y'all and send out the essence of joy and light through this page and beyond.
deb-o-rah

[DaBee]

Originally posted by PMilam:
Here's another that goes well with that...
It often takes more courage to change one's opinion than to stick to it. Most of my life and especially by my family I have been called a "stubborn Swede". I would refuse to budge about anything I'd made my mind up about. I can look at pictures of myself from when I was a little girl and "see" it. My grandfather (FarFar in Swedish) was my hard headed, foreign speaking (with English here and there) hero. He never waivered about anything. He loved his little Debbie because she was so much like him. He would always pat me on the head and say "snal flicka" which is "good girl".
Wellll.........at some point and really, not all that long ago, I found out that I wasn't always right about everything :confused: . I was in shock :eek: ! Once I got over the shock of that, which took quite a few years of groveling, life started shifting a bit and I gradually came around with a new perspective.
Now I find that to stay open minded to all concepts, beliefs, ideologies, people, circumstances, etc., helps me to get through a process of learning life lessons much quicker. Sometimes the old stubborn part tries to creep in, but I can recognize that now and get rid of it. I find, also, that the less opinionated I am, the less there is to unlearn. I can much more quickly get rid of the old stuff that causes confusion and separation.
I'm not telling anyone that this is the right process to go through, only that this is what is working for me.
love and light
deb(bie)

[mtnviewsteve]

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Buddhist wisdom about believing nothing

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it-even if I have said it-unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.


Buddha
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[Jeannie Jones]

FOOD???, from NAFALIA:

Not to bring up an old subject, but I'm most likely gonna need a little help on this one, gang. Since the radiation burn, and the last of the chemo is over and done, and 4 months have passed by, well, I'm still having trouble with the food issue. My body just does not seem to want to retain food. And so it has now come down to this. I eat something, and very soon afterwards it's a trip to the johnny-room (not every time, but way too often).

I've tried everything I know, followed all the doctors' suggestions and directions, and the problem does not seem to want to go away.

Spoke with the nutritionist that specializes in radiation burns to the degree that I had, and she tells me it could take up to a year for the burn inside to heal up. She has wracked her brain and done as much research as she can, and she was very saddened, but can find no help for me.

Well, it's quite obvious to everyone that we must be able to retain food in order to heal and to grow and have our strength return. The nutritionist told me today that, if we don't find some resolution to this problem, that there are only 2 options left, and those are:

1. IV feeding
2. To put a tube in my stomach and feed through it.

I'm not agreeable to either one of these. Like she said, it is so important to keep the G.I. tract functioning, so that it CAN heal, and to have to resort to either one of these methods does not keep the G.I. tract functioning.

I know that somewhere out there, through some person, i.e., the lady I know at the health food store, there is a much better answer.

I have dealt with this problem for 4 mos. now, and I certainly don't want to take energy away from P. Milam and others right now when they need it so badly, but if you've got a little extra, if you'd send it my way so that we could find the answer, then the healing process could continue on.

As we will it,
So shall it be,

Nafalia

[PMilam]

Oh, honey... you are on my love/healing/peace list.. it just doesn't stop when energy is low.. seems the more that goes out.. the more comes in..

Craig says take their advice, and time is the healer here.

I wish I could say.. do this and so.. and your problem is solved.

I send you love and light.. pink.. and sweet, easy to keep down.

Patt

[mtnviewsteve]

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ALL POWERFULL Goddess Mother,we ask in your precious name, ~~~~ grant the healing to Nafalia, necessary to fuel her body with the needed nourishment and comfort in these trying times~~

Please do not forget the others, Becky Davis, Debbie, Patt Milam, Jeannie and the many other weakened ONES you know and know you. Bring Healing and Comfort to ALL in need~~~

These things we ask and KNOW you will allow and provide. May the LigHt of the ANCIENTS wrap us ALL~~~~~
So Mote It Be.

[DaBee]

Nafalia, I will meditate about this food situation and open myself to answers from the universe. Just a couple questions....are you lactose intolerant? Have you ever had B12 injections?
love and healing light,
deb

[DaBee]

sTeVe...did you know that there are :
25 crows in Crow
a little tidbit I thought you outta know
eatin' pecans and playin' dominoes
25 crows in Crow
???

[mtnviewsteve]

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~~~~25 crows, in one crow-eating~~~

A Gathering of Crows
One crow for sorrow,
Two crows for joy,
Three crows for a girl,
Four for a boy,
Five crows for silver,
Six crows for gold,

Seven crows for a secret never to be told.
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[Becky Davis]

Steve, that is a beautiful prayer. Throw one in there for me sometimes.
Nafalia, I don't understand. Would not food from a feeding tube also go through you? Are you having difficulty swallowing? I know they can put a tube directly into your stomach, but if the problem is not swallowing...I don't understand how tube feeding would correct the problem. Splain please?
Also, have you eaten yogurt and other soothing foods? What are you primarily eating?
As disgusting as it may sound, some pureed or baby foods may be good.

[daturasgarden]

I don't know if any of this will help?

"Acupuncture can be used to help with nausea and pain
THC (the active ingredient in marijuana) is useful for treating cancer pain, chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting, and poor appetite/wasting. It can be prescribed in pill form, while some people find relief from smoking marijuana. However, it is illegal in most states, but your doctor may be willing to prescribe it.
For nausea, both ginger and caraway seed can often help. Caraway seed can be used to make a tea to be used after radiation treatment. To prevent nausea, hold a slice of fresh ginger in your mouth while undergoing therapy; if you become nauseous, chew on it. Fennel tea calms the stomach and prevents nausea. Acupuncture or an acupressure wrist band may also help.
Pressure points on the wrists that can help reduce nausea. There is a special wrist band that uses electrical stimulation of the nerves in the wrist for this by Woodside Biomedical Inc. in Carlsbad, CA at (888)668-6648. However, do not use it if you have a pacemaker.
For pain or burning in the stomach, mix one heaping teaspoon of kudzu or arrowroot in six ounces of water or licorice tea."

Blessed Be...

[Jeannie Jones]

SWEETNESS AND KINDNESS, from NAFALIA:

Patt, that was a very sweet and wonderful post that you sent to me. Thank you. Thank Craig for his advice. That was very kind.

I am doing everything they tell me, it just seems they're running out of things to tell me. I know there is an answer out there somewhere. There is a key. I just have to find the key.

Love you much,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

DITTO, from NAFALIA

Well, as always, Steve, it was a beautiful prayer, and I know it comes from your body mind and soul, and I especially like the post about the crows.

And so it is,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

B-12 ANYONE? from NAFALIA

DeboB12girl, yes, I take B-12 shots once a week, and have for about 5 yrs., and as far as the lactose intolerance, EXTREMELY so. Hereditary.

Pretty much am trying everything that comes my way if it is possible and fits into my restricted diet.

It seems my body is in a catch-22 no matter how it goes, 'cause of the migraine headaches which manifest in proximinal benign positional vertigo, which keeps me on the migraine headache diet. This eliminates sooooo many foods (I can't even begin to name them all).

So that's where it stands with this issue at this point.

Love you well,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

BABY FOOD???, from NAFALIA

Becky, my understanding of the tube in the stomach is that you feed yourself things through the tube, such as "Ensure", that sort of liquid diet is what they use.

Swallowing is no problem at all. It's simply that the radiation burn is so severe, the lower intestinal level, fibers in there were pretty much fried and are beginning to heal, but my body is rejecting food because it cannot digest it.

As far as the baby food thing, well, there are a lot of things in the baby food which are not allowed in the migraine headache diet.

So that's about the best answers I can have for your questions. I can swallow fine, though, just no bulk food, or high fiber, no fruits, and no vegetables. :rolleyes: <font size=-3>Somebody please tell me what's left?!?!</font>

Love you well,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

BABY FOOD???, from NAFALIA

Becky, my understanding of the tube in the stomach is that you feed yourself things through the tube, such as "Ensure", that sort of liquid diet is what they use.

Swallowing is no problem at all. It's simply that the radiation burn is so severe, the lower intestinal level, fibers in there were pretty much fried and are beginning to heal, but my body is rejecting food because it cannot digest it.

As far as the baby food thing, well, there are a lot of things in the baby food which are not allowed in the migraine headache diet.

So that's about the best answers I can have for your questions. I can swallow fine, though, just no bulk food, or high fiber, no fruits, and no vegetables. :rolleyes: Somebody please tell me what's left?!?!

Love you well,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

NO NAUSEA, NO PAIN, from NAFALIA

Datura'sGarden, thank you so very much for your well-stated information. I have no problems with the wonderful natural herb, used it for many, many years, until about 10 years ago, when I developed the vertigo. It was at that point that I stopped using the healing herb.

I have no nausea, nor do I have pain, but even though this information was not meant for me, there's someone out there who needs it.

Thank you for your kindness,

Nafalia

[DaBee]

Eggs

[Jeannie Jones]

INTUITIVE READING, from NAFALIA

Well, gang, yesterday at 4:00, Linda Eastburn (many of you may know her) came over and she did an intuitive health reading for me. I'm going to touch on the high points of the health issues which she found.

First of all, she said, of course, my energy is just drained, due to everything that's gone on, and, of course, the food issue being what it is. No way to refuel or rekindle the body. She did see that the fibers are healing, and she said that about a 2-month process still lays ahead of me, as far as this issue goes.

My glandular lymphatic system and digestive system are all out of whack, and my body is working overtime to get everything back in alignment, and the healing has begun and will continue.

She was led to tell me to consume much, much less water, no more than 2 or 3 glasses of water a day, 'cause it's only flushing out needed nutrients in my body, and causing the food to go right through me.

What's happening is my body is rejecting everything, because it's trying to detox, and a little humor thrown in there, like she said, my body doesn't trust me anymore, and that it's saying kind of like "Yeah, right, we're gonna trust you after what you did to us???". So my body is just refusing anything I give it. It's like "You poisoned us and now you want us to accept what you put in us???". :eek:

Linda told me to do this: make all foods that I eat as soft as possible, and eat only approximately an ounce or so at a time, and ingest small amounts every 15-20 minutes. Not to drink anything for 1 hour before I start the process, and 1 hour after the process.

She also felt very strongly that my soul is telling my body to rest a lot, and to follow this routine until my body once again can trust me. smile.gif

She told me to take each small morsel of food that I take into my body and view it as an entire banquet, and that in time, she sees within 6 to 8 weeks, the healing process will be progressed to the point where my body will once again accept what I put in it.

We spoke of many, many things concerning my health, and she and I both feel that the healing process will continue on, but the next few months are going to be pretty difficult, as my energy is way, way low, and my blood is in a weakened state. But what can you expect after what my body's been through?

I've been following her advice, and so far everything that I've eaten is still there, and that in time I will be okay.

It is amazing how full the body can feel in following this process, but it's working. It takes me about an hour to eat a sandwich, and I usually find that it's difficult to complete a whole sandwich, because I feel so full.

That's pretty much what we spoke of on the health issue. I just wanted to share this with you all. Oh, she also told me to take high-calorie juices and dilute them down a little bit, and drink an ounce of them at a time, off and on during the day. Not too much, but some. And that's where it stands as of today.

Through Linda, I believe we've finally found the key that will get my body back to trusting me again. It's like I told LInda, I had a "cosmic a$$-whuppin'" at the cellular level last year, but the cancer was a gift in disguise, for it is creating many new changes, and they manifest when they so desire, on the inside and the out.

I told her, "I don't know why I put this in my script, for I'm sure there would've been an easier way, but after all, it is ALWAYS about the experience".

As we will it,
So shall it be,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

Originally posted by DaBee:
Eggs Does this have to do with chickens? Or is it the ethereal egg? My, how one word can make the mind wander!!!

Deb, are you asking me can I have eggs? The answer is "No", as they seem to make the journey from in to out faster than anything!

[DaBee]

That is so interesting, NN. What Linda has said sure feels right, doesn't it?
Synchronicity at work here again because this has been on my mind about myself. In fact, yesterday, I made a promise to my body that I was going to treat it with respect and dignity. That I would put only the right foods in, would do the right kinds of exercise and tasks, would not think negative thoughts of how it has disappointed me with disease. I realize that I am responsible for this and had no right blaming my body for it. I am going to try to do right by it before there is no turning back. I will deal with everything that comes along with the systems and muscles and bones and skin and heart and hormones, etc, in a more positive way. I have no idea where this came from, well, except maybe I kinda do, but it's one of those nameless Hado experiences. This was a pretty significant "peeling back another layer of the onion" things for me that I had not even thought of speaking to anyone about.
Thank you for sharing, Nafalia. It opened the door for my sharing, which may open the door for someone else. Things just work that way a lot, don't they?
love and light
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

SHARING, from NAFALIA

Deb, sharing is always the gift. Glad this helped.

Love,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

Hi, Deb, noticed that this is the 2nd time you've used the word "Hado", which was unfamiliar to me. Started to ask you what it meant, then realized I could use that Google function at the top of the page. Read a few things, including the Christmas message on this page linked below, the essay, and viewed the 2 presents. I really find the guy quite charming to read. How did you become familiar with this?

http://www.thank-water.net/english/emoto.htm

And here's a link that's more concise and gives more of a definition:

http://www.beyondword.com/all-book-catalog/H-books/bk-healing-power-of-hado.html


Pax vobiscum,

JJ

[DaBee]

I saw the word used in a spiritual context, but didn't remember ever seeing it before. I have a friend that was a Zen Monk in a Monestary in Japan back in the 70's. I wrote and asked him about it and this is what he said:


Hado is pronounced as ha, as in ha ha ha! Do, of course is pronounced like a female deer, doe a deer a female deer...as the song goes. Hado has been an essential Buddhist teaching for a couple of thousand years now. Zen Buddhism, in particular, emphasizes Hado and translates it into English as 'thought-energy' even though that is not it's transliteration. It is interesting to me that you have kind of stumbled onto this expression, and is probably a perfect example of Jungian 'synchronicity' in your case. Being the beautiful spirit that you are, it has now come into your life by way of a new word for you to use to describe thought-energy. I am certain that thought-energy is not new to you at all, but that only the word 'hado' is. I'm trying to use it in my sentences whenever it's applicable. It feels a bit odd, but probably just because I'm not familiar enough with it yet. I think it's beautiful and am grateful for a word that describes, somewhat, something that is rather undescribable. If that makes any sense.

g'night y'all
love and light
deb

[shuggie]

Have you ever tasted a Russian Cream?

[Jeannie Jones]

No. Why, Shuggie, is it like this?

quoting Deb:

...something that is rather undescribable.

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:

Hindu wisdom about Focus

Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life,think of it, dream of it,
live on that idea. Let the brain,muscles,nerves,every part of your body,
be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to
SUCCESS........... If we really want to be BLESSED, and make others
BLESSED,
we must go DEEPER.


Vivekanda
:cool:

[Becky Davis]

You can also drink some Boost or Ensure to get some calories in you. Theres all kinds of stuff you can have really. Mac and cheese is soft and warm feeling to the tummy. Cottage cheese, tuna...girl, we'll just fix you right up. Small meals often. Good advice for anybody.

[DaBee]

Originally posted by shuggie:
Have you ever tasted a Russian Cream? Z'this it?


Ingredients
2 oz vodka
1 oz Kahlua® coffee liqueur
1 oz Bailey's® Irish cream
light cream

Method
Pour vodka and kahlua into an old-fashioned glass over ice. Stir, add irish cream, light cream, and serve.

I have, but didn't live to tell about it. ;)

[Jeannie Jones]

Deb, so glad you've decided to make your health your #1 priority in your life. It must be so. And that's one thing we provide for each other here, keys. Keys open locks, which open doors.

Interesting info. from your friend about "Hado". At least we know how to pronounce it! And a ponderable explanation of what it is.

Becky, Nafalia can't use cheese or eggs. Schwann's delivers their wonderful foods to her place, but some of the items have MSG, and she can't have that either. She's limited to the migraine diet because of the vertigo.

Steve, good quote about "focus". All of us can use it, once we choose what our primary goal is in this time.

Shuggie, where'dja go, gal? smile.gif

[DaBee]

Suzanne....You're welcome to join in at any time! The more the merrier. We love sending love and healing thoughts your way.
love and light
deb

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:

Your daily Hindu Wisdom
Hindu wisdom about knowledge

The more this power of concentration, the more knowledge is acquired, because this is the one and only method of acquiring knowledge. Even the lowest shoeblack, if he gives more concentration, will black shoes better, the cook with concentration will cook a meal all the better. In making money, or in worshipping God,Goddess, Spirit or in doing anything, the stronger the POWER of CONCENTRATION,
the BETTER will that thing be done. This is the one call, the one knock, which opens the gate of nature, and lets out the FLOOD OF LIGHT.

Vivekanda

:cool:

[DaBee]

Read this this morning and wanted to share. I've always heard that others are reflections of ourselves and felt that the concept never just totally clicked with me. Somehow, this description makes total sense. I don't know if it's a case of this just being written better or the fact that "when the student is ready, the teacher will appear". I'm grateful, whatever the reason.
love and light
deb-o-ray

We Are All Mirrors For Each Other

When we look at other people, we see many of their qualities in innumerable and seemingly random combinations. However, the qualities that we see in the people around us are directly related to the traits that exist in us. "Like attracts like" is one of the spiritual laws of the universe. We attract individuals into our lives that mirror who we are. Those you feel drawn to reflect your inner self back at you, and you act as a mirror for them. Simply put, when you look at others, you will likely see what exists in you. When you see beauty, divinity, sweetness, or light in the soul of another, you are seeing the goodness that resides in your soul. When you see traits in others that evoke feelings of anger, annoyance, or hatred, you may be seeing reflected back at you those parts of yourself that you have disowned or do not like.

Because we are all mirrors for each other, looking at the people in your life can tell you a lot about yourself. Who you are can be laid bare to you through what you see in others. It is easy to see the traits you do not like in others. It is much more difficult to realize that you possess those same traits. Often, the habits, attitudes, and behaviors of others are closely linked to our unconscious and unresolved issues.

When you come into contact with someone you admire, search your soul for similarly admirable traits. Likewise, when you meet someone exhibiting traits that you dislike, accept that you are looking at your reflection. Looking at yourself through your perception of others can be a humbling and eye-opening experience. You can also cultivate in you the traits and behaviors that you do like. Be loving and respectful to all people, and you will attract individuals that will love and respect you back. Nurture compassion and empathy and let the goodness you see in others be your mirror.

[DaBee]

OK, yep, this is another cut and paste, but golly, it's how I share in cyberspace!
This is from a website about people that are "sensitives". I took the test and found out the reason for some of my "qwirks". Always thought I was a tough cookie, but looks like that's not my whole picture. I'm thinking that pretty much, the people that read and share on this thread have that sensitive side to them also. If you do, then this article will "resonate" with you, I imagine.
Enjoy!
love and light
deb-oh-so-sensitive ;)

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As a sensitive soul, good energy-management skills are a must. This means tuning in to yourself on a regular basis and continually reassessing and adjusting what you take on. It's a real balancing act. And sometimes, despite your best intentions, your energy gets drained and you feel out of balance. The key, then, is to know how to quickly and easily recharge your energy.

Some of why this situation happens is that highly sensitive people are more susceptible to overstimulation than less sensitive types. Being overstimulated ultimately drains your energy. You may not notice the drain right away because it can also produce an adrenaline rush, which creates a sense of urgency or even panic that's hard to shake. You can fall into flight or fight mode without even realizing it, and even get a little addicted about keeping that urgency going.

On top of this, our culture generally encourages us to over-commit. We try to do it all, fit it all in, and take it all on. This can be overstimulating and draining as well. You might even start buying into the rationale that you DO have to do it ALL, that the world WILL end if you don't get it done, and that you have to HURRY UP about it. So you go into hyper-drive while feeling exhausted at the same time, psychically, emotionally, physically, and mentally. It's enough to make this sensitive soul say, "Stop the madness!"

Other contributing factors lead us to overspending in the energy department. For instance, you may find yourself "over-giving." Many sensitives have a real knack for putting other people first and giving out far more than they are receiving. Sometimes this can feel like a survival strategy. You may trap yourself, thinking that if you can *just* get the people around you to feel better, then you will feel better yourself. (I wrote about this topic last month in my e-zine article, "Are You Giving Away Your Power?") Giving away your energy this way is another way of feeling drained. And once you're drained, more overstimulation isn't far behind. It's a downward spiral that can quickly gain momentum if left unchecked.

So what's a sensitive soul to do?

Step 1. Make a Course Correction
You can take your power back by stopping to look critically at what you're doing and why you're doing it. Drop anything and everything that isn't aligned with your *own* highest priorities, and give yourself permission to seriously reconsider other events and plans. As a sensitive soul, you absolutely have to prioritize your self-care and learn to manage your schedule and energy well, or you jeopardize your ability to engage with others or do your soul's work with any real impact.
My own busy January schedule led me to do exactly this kind of strategizing, toward rebalancing my energy. The first clue that I'd entered the "spin cycle" of over-doing and over-giving was that I started feeling cranky or resentful. These powerful emotional messengers always get my attention and get me into action to course-correct. It was a powerful reminder of "oxygen-mask thinking" -- that in order to support the people who rely on me, I had to put on my own oxygen-mask FIRST by taking the time to renew my own energy.

Step 2. Recharge Your Energy
Once you re-orient your schedule and your life to your own priorities, including your own self-care, take some time to recharge before forging ahead. Sometimes you can get so "spun out" that you can't think of a single thing that will help. I recommend creating a list of activities, people, and environments that recharge, renew, and enhance your energy. Then when you're in crisis mode, you can get out your list and remember how to come back to yourself.
To get you started thinking about what works for you, here are some things that work for me:

Reading comic books
Reading "girl" magazines
Doing spa-at-home treatments
Getting a massage
Taking Epsom salts baths
Talking to close, mutually supportive friends (No energy vampires!)
Snuggling with my sweetie and/or my kitties
Collaging and cutting out magazine pictures
Reading science fiction books
Eating popcorn, drinking kombucha, and reading in the blue chair
Looking at Barbie dolls at Mr. Mopp's
Listening to music on iTunes, www.pandora.com, (http://www.pandora.com,) or favorite CDs
Pulling oracle cards
Meditating
Listening to the work of Sonia Choquette
Getting outside
Being in the sunshine
Prowling at Long's or Elephant Pharmacy
Playing games
Coloring in coloring books
These simple yet playful and nourishing activities bring me back to myself and help me return to my efforts renewed.

So now it's your turn. Make a list: What recharges your energy?

[Jeannie Jones]

Absolutely, Deb, and I can see you in this article for sure. Astrologically, I was pretty much set up to come into this world doing this on my own (I mean, just taking "time off" in my off hours, when I need to, without feeling guilty about it). No matter how much and how hard I've worked, I've also holed up in my apt. when needed for precious recharging time.

One thing I used to do, years ago, was to take a long, long bath with a board across the tub to hold my book and something to drink, and I'd float a bowl of popcorn in the water. As the bath water cooled down, I'd just add more hot.

The only time it's been problematic to me is, just as the article said, when I was working an 88-hr. work week for 9 mos., and the adrenaline was so powerful that it made me think I could do anything. Afterward, I pretty much "crashed", and realized what a fine line I'd been walking ... er ... running.

[Edited to add more, for clarity.]

[DaBee]

Oh NancyNafalia....come out, come out, wherever you are!

[Jeannie Jones]

Deb, she hasn't felt up to posting for a while, but I have a feeling she may want to this afternoon. Haven't heard from her yet today. She DID say to wish you "Happy Birthday" for her, though. smile.gif

Wondering how Patt is feeling these days.

Wonder if Steve is having computer prollems.

Love to all,

JJ

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:
Blessings of LiGhT to ALL. Computer problems is something I'm learning to live with. As with any injury or illness, we just try to make the best of it and look for the LiGhT somewhere in the Above or Below.
Hello to each and ALL.
So Mote It Be.
:cool:

[PMilam]

I'm feeling ok... just really fatigued from the new meds. Aromasin is the main one.. and, I'm just soaking in being at home.

I go for a new patient session on Wens, and start rads on Thurs.. then 5 days a week for 5-7 weeks.

I have good friends that live in and around Fville, so I have several options, if I don't feel up to the 3 hours of driving.
They also have free housing for people that live out of town, that are doing treatments.

It's one of those times, when you drop your baggage, and step off into the air.

I'm just now thinking that I'll take my camera, and take some of myself.. and others, if they are interested. I met friends of a friend there for chemo. Both of them live in the Prairie Grove area, and have cancer. Their wells and houses are contaminated with arsenic. I think I am entering a whole new world.

I hold you all in my heart, and appreciate, so much all the support, energy, caring, words of grace and peace.
Don't know how much I'll be on the puter while I'm over there.. I'll just have to see how it goes.

Nafalia, special blessings to you, heal, heal, heal.

If I don't get back for a while, I'm still praying for you.

love, peace and miracles,
Patt

[Jeannie Jones]

MANIFESTATIONS, from NAFALIA:

I've been away for a while because, as I once said to you all, the cancer and the chemo and radiation brought about changes on the inside and outside.

As I told you before, I cannot tell you what the changes are, or when they will manifest, they just come as they will.

During my time away, I've gone through some inward searching, and found it was a time that I had no words to say, so I just waited for the time to speak to come.

I am doing better at retaining my food. I'm growing stronger. I believe now I've come to understand that the cancer and the treatment are a gift in disguise.

What this gift is, has yet to fully manifest in my mind or my life, but it feels as if it's very positive for me. I believe as my recovery progresses, the gift will come to the surface.

So you might say that during this time I've been away, I've been assimilating the experiences that I've had, which started last March 15 (the Ides of March).

Just wanted to get back and let you all know that all is going well, and I hold that thought in my mind's eye at all times.

Patt, I walk with you so much of the time in my mind's eye, and I cannot express to you what an inspiration you have been to me. We have nothing left to do but fight the good fight.

As we will it,
Spirit shall grant it,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

Oh, Patt, you MUST bring your camera! The book will come of this. It will be the best project for you to funnel your energies into. I feel it deep within me, and I'll bet you do too. You are such a wonderful writer, when you choose to be, and you have the heart and the eye to "see the shot".

I know that you will walk this treatment through with the Blessed Mother's blue mantle around your shoulders, dear heart.

Love and prayers of healing to you, Patt,

Jeannie

[DaBee]

Patt...Know that you've gone through your 1st radiation treatment today. I am with you in spirit and hope that you're sleeping with ease tonight.
love and light
deb

[DaBee]

sTeVe...I picked up a copy of Ozarks Magazine today and was reading about a lady named Lenore Shoults. Very interesting and talented person. I'm wondering if Stone County Ironworks is the same place that you work? Says it's on the Square in Mountain View and she's the manager or at least was the first manager there. 'Twas a good article about the Folk Center.
Meant to say several weeks back that I didn't know that you were waiting on a possible surgery for your back. Has the determination about this being a prior condition been finalized? I don't see how in the world they could come to this conclusion if Workman's Comp determined from the onset that it was because of an on-the-job accident. Hope that's going well for you. Still doing the up-side-down exercises? Bet it feels good. I'd love to try it, but can't afford the equipment...at least for now.
The best to you and Maletha.
love and light
deb

[DaBee]

Back a bit I was talking about "sensitives". This article explains this type of person somewhat. I found it interesting and maybe you will, too:


By Jenna Avery, CLC,
Life Coach for Sensitive Souls

Do you often feel overwhelmed by your environment or the people around you? Has anyone ever called you shy – or worse: “too sensitive”? Do you care deeply about EVERYTHING? You may be a highly sensitive soul – a person of deep empathy and high intensity, with powerful intuition, awareness, and intelligence.

Being highly sensitive, you have a uniquely perceptive sensory system. You are therefore more sensitive to emotions, energy, environmental conditions such as lighting or sound, other people, excitement, and stress. As a result of constant stimuli, you may feel easily overwhelmed or unable to cope. Things can be particularly confusing when others seem unperturbed by the same experiences. For example, your friends might be able to shop all day, go out to dinner, and then head to a loud party. For you, that would be unbearable.

Research psychologist Dr. Elaine Aron, author of The Highly Sensitive Person: How to Thrive When the World Overwhelms You, has studied high sensitivity extensively. Her research shows that being sensitive is a personality temperament or trait, one usually inherited. According to Dr. Aron, up to 20% of the population is highly sensitive.


How To Tell If You Are Highly Sensitive
Being highly sensitive comes with a number of gifts, as well as challenges. See if any of these highly sensitive qualities resonate strongly with you.

1. You are deeply affected by all aspects of your life.
As a aensitive soul, you have great emotional passion, intensity, and depth. You may have been told that your emotions are “too much.” You are sensitive, caring, and easily affected by the energy and emotions of others. These qualities make it easy to lose touch with your needs and desires.

2. You have heightened perceptive skills.
A sensitive soul is intuitive, highly aware, and keenly observant of the subtleties of your environment, including energy, light, noise, smell, texture, and temperature. You may also be empathic or even psychic. Your perceptive skills operate in the physical, intellectual, emotional, and spiritual realms. You tie together things you see into complex and original concepts. This makes you a visionary.

3. You have a lower tolerance for stimulation than others.
Because you receive so much information from your surroundings, your threshold for what’s “too much” is significantly lower than for those around you. This means: a) You may be seen as shy or timid; and b) You may feel uncomfortably dissimilar to others because you respond so differently to stimulation.

4. You are highly conscientious and thorough in all your undertakings.
A sensitive soul makes a great employee. You concentrate intensely and process multi-source information deeply. However, you require privacy, uninterrupted time, and little or no pressure in order to do your best work.

5. You have a strong relationship with aesthetics and art.
As a highly sensitive soul, you have a passion for beauty, art, and aesthetics. You may be highly artistic and creative yourself. You easily create beauty and comfort. Seeing things “out of alignment” can actually be physically or psychically distressing.

6. Your inner life is just as intriguing and inspiring as your outer life.
You likely have a rich, complex inner life and are highly imaginative. You may find it challenging to connect to “real world” priorities and realities.

7. You absolutely require private time alone in order to feel replenished.
Up to 70% of highly sensitive souls are introverted. But even extroverted sensitives need downtime to rejuvenate, often in a darkened, quiet room.

8. You have a strong spiritual connection and depth.
If you are highly sensitive, you experience a profound spiritual connection with the divine and/or spiritual realm. You “see” a lot in what appears common. Because of this you may feel impatient with the truly mundane.


Learning To Thrive: What You Need
Learning to thrive as a highly sensitive soul presents challenges. If you’re sensitive, you have likely accumulated years of training in trying overcome the trait because you don’t “fit in” with society. And yet being highly sensitive is a vital part of you.

A first step toward thriving as a sensitive soul is to understand and accept your trait. Hear this now: There is absolutely nothing wrong with you. You are just different. As one of my clients says, being highly sensitive is both a gift and a responsibility.

Sensitive souls require regular self-care, meaningful work, and supportive relationships. Working with a sensitive coach or therapist who helps you tune into your own magnificent inner guidance system – your sensitivity – is a powerful means of support.

Additionally, there are books, websites, web-based communities, and teleconference gatherings on the subject. Connecting with like-minded souls is often deeply healing for sensitive persons.

As you begin to manage your life in a way that truly works for you, you will trust the power and gift of your sensitivity, and be inspired to share your much-needed wisdom with the world.

[mtnviewsteve]

Originally posted by DaBee:
sTeVe...I picked up a copy of Ozarks Magazine today and was reading about a lady named Lenore Shoults. Very interesting and talented person. I'm wondering if Stone County Ironworks is the same place that you work? Says it's on the Square in Mountain View and she's the manager or at least was the first manager there. 'Twas a good article about the Folk Center.
Meant to say several weeks back that I didn't know that you were waiting on a possible surgery for your back. Has the determination about this being a prior condition been finalized? I don't see how in the world they could come to this conclusion if Workman's Comp determined from the onset that it was because of an on-the-job accident. Hope that's going well for you. Still doing the up-side-down exercises? Bet it feels good. I'd love to try it, but can't afford the equipment...at least for now.
The best to you and Maletha.
love and light
deb :cool:
DaBee,
She used to manage our retail store. I work at the manufacturing facility about a mile down the road on the left.

Workmans Comp. is still paying for my meds. and they paid for me to go to the neurosurgeon. They are trying to settle the case as they feel I will not improve any, nothing surgery will help. I have permanent nerve damage in my right leg and will just have to live with the lower back pain and leg.

I am still using my inversion table and going to acupuncture every two weeks~~ I have to pay for this. Acupuncture enables me to continue working and really helps with the pain. Looks like me nd "CANE" will be buddies for life.
Blessed Be.
Sounds like the hikes are agreeing with you and is fun taboot!
Blessings, LiGhT SisTeR.
:cool:

[Jeannie Jones]

WELL, MISS DEB, from NAFALIA:

As I was dancing across the stars the other night, when I got to your house, I stopped for a while, and stood upon this beautiful star, and the starbeams were just beaming down right to your house, so I took a starbeam and slid down to say hello to you. smile.gif

Lo and behold, there you sat at your new computer, with this big ol' smile on your face, and just posting and posting away! So I leaned over and gave you just a light kiss on the cheek and said, "I love you, Debostarbeamlight", and away I went. Did you notice, or were you too busy with your new computer? ;)

As above, so below,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

PRAYERS FOR STAN, from NAFALIA:

Okay, everybody, here we go again. My b-i-l, Stan Hill, had an angiogram today, and they found that he has 50% blockage in 3 arteries, 40% in 3 arteries, and 90% in another, which is, as you see, 7 blockages. Right now he has 10% heart function. The doctors were pretty astounded that he's even alive! :eek:

Stan has been married to my sister for 37 years, and is the light of her life. They are joined at the hip.

Next Friday he goes into the hospital for a quadruple bypass. Now here's the good part of this. He's 57 and in good health, basically, has a wonderful medical team, and after his surgery and healing process, he should feel like a new man!

So here is what I am asking. Along with all the others that we are sending energy and Light to, let us please add Stan to the list, and also my sister Sue, as she will need the extra energy as well.

So next Friday I will be at the hospital with my sister, to be by her side while she goes through this with her husband.

Just to throw a little humor in here, let me tell you this little tidbit. Every night, after Stan takes his medication to help him sleep, he goes to bed and goes to sleep, and then, in Stan's words, he "falls awake" and has to get up and have some chocolate, or ice cream and cookies, or all of the above!

Of course, this will be his last week of being able to do this, because they've already given him the diet which he will live on for the rest of his life, and nowhere on it does it say anything about falling awake and having chocolate, ice cream, and/or cookies! So he's got 1 week for this left, so I'm sure he'll make the most of it! He may fall awake 3 or 4 times a night!!! :D

Thanks again, one and all, for I know you will all do everything that needs to be done, along with me and Stan and Sue.

As we will it,
So shall it be,

Nafalia

[DaBee]

I am never too busy to notice that I'm being kissed on the cheek by someone that calls me Debostarbeamlight. I'm sure that you didn't miss the smile and wink that was just for you.
I love it when you drop in and visit.
I be right there with Stan and Sue and you.
love and light
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

LITTLE MIKEY, from NAFALIA:

When my phone rang and woke me this morning, and it was my long-time biker sister from Texarkana, the news that she gave me was very saddening. Our other long-time biker sister, Rowena, whose husband died a year ago last January, from cancer throughout his body from Agent Orange, had once again been struck by tragedy.

The words I heard next were these: "Have you heard from Rowena?" And I said, "No". Sheila then began to cry, and she said, "Well, Little Mikey killed himself this morning, by shooting himself in the head".

Little Mikey first came into my life when he was 4 or 5, when his father joined the Vietnam Vets' Motorcycle Club. My first recollection of Little Mikey is bright-eyed, with a dirty face and barefoot. Over the years, when I would call Rowena, or vice versa, I would always be assured that I would hear these words out of Little Mikey's mouth: "I love you, Miss Nancy, and I miss you".

On this day today, Little Mikey was in his 20's, and somehow his sadness and sorrow had gone unnoticed, and he decided to leave us and go. My only hope is that he did not do it in the house, for that is where his father had also died.

I have not personally spoken with Rowena as of yet, because I'm sure that she is still in quite a state of shock, and I don't I have any specifics, but dead is dead. Matters not the details.

My concern now lies with my biker sister, Rowena, for Mikey was her only child, and life has been very difficult for her, ALL of her life, but expecially since her husband died a year ago, and she had just begun to recover from that.

I have always been told that the death of a child is the most sorrowful thing you can experience, so I call you all together once again, to let us send all of the healing energy and Light we can to Rowena Talbort, in Woodville, TX, for now she is completely alone in the world.

I called my ex- in Texas and found out that some of the other sisters had already headed up towards her, and the brothers were gathering up to meet on their motorcycles to ride to be with her at this time of her life.

Rowena has little or no money and no insurance, but that is not an issue, for the Vietnam Vets' Motorcycle Club will see to the expenses of Michael's burial.

After I recovered from the shock, and knowing that I was in no condition to go and be with her, I sat down and wrote an epitaph to Little Mikey, and it is called "Dirty Face and Barefoot". So let us all send Michael off with this thought in mind: may he now find the peace he sought for in life and could not find.

Loving you all well,

Nafalia

[mtnviewsteve]

May the Love and LiGhT of Spirit wrap healing energy and Light around Rowena Talbort, in Woodville, TX, and ALL her family,and give Mikey the ride of his life to the UNIVERSAL perfect place of HIS dreams. Thoughts and healing Blessings are with you Nafalia and family.
As Above, So Below.

[PMilam]

Blessings and prayers to all our beloveds.

As Nafalia said....

We have nothing left to do but fight the good fight.

As we will it,
Spirit shall grant it.

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Nice to be home, tho, my stay in Fville was quite nice and comfortable..


Well, as yet, I have not felt comfortable .. uh... at all... going into the treatment room.. so.. I have yet to take my camera.

I wish I could have a photo of the woman that was doing her last rads the day I did my first. I had seen her here, the times before, when I was there for set up.. which can take quite a while.. by the way..

She came in.. said she was announcing that when she got through.. she would come dancing down the hall.

But.. my first treatment was simply hell. As you are set up, marked with black, blue and red markers, here and there, you must always go back to exactly the same position.
In my case, it's holding my hands over my head. Having just had surgery last month, my left arm has not been very active at all... and.. I've had rotator cuff problems with both shoulders. One required 9 mo. of physical therapy..

No one had asked about my shoulders, and I had not given it a thought... until.. there was some problem with the numbers, the colors, marks and blocks... now, this is all a foreign language to me... but.. once you move.. you have to start all over again with the positioning.. so they encouraged me to be still til they could work it out.. of course, I can't see a damn thing.. my head is turned to the right, so unless someone peeks in between me and the machine, or the machine is tilted to where I can see a reflection, I can't see who is there, or what anyone is doing.

So.. I laid on a flat surface with my arms over my head for about 40 minutes. I had to have help to move my arms.. my left was completely asleep. So, I raced to the dressing room, and could barely muster a nod to the woman that was after me.. taking her last session. I walked in there and wept.. and dressed quickly, and looking to neither side, I rushed to my car.. to my solace at Michael and Paula's house. I took up residence on the couch for a while.. til I heard stirring in the kitchen. They were cooking dinner for us.. and Ben.

Yesterday went the way it should from now on.. in and out in less than 30 min.. clothes change and all..

Thanks be to all that is good and right in the universe!!

[DaBee]

So glad you're home, Patt. Things have been pretty mild around here, well, except for a few radicals ;) . Here's hoping for a comfy weekend surrounded by all that is good in the world.
love and light
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

Oh, Patt, so glad yesterday went well for you! Girl, I sure know how rotator cuff problems hurt! Happy that you have a comfortable place to be in F'ville, but happier still that you're back in your wonderful home by the waters.

Steve, what a beautiful prayer. Very nicely put, dear heart.

My y'all are up late tonight!

Peace and blessings to all,

Jeannie

[Jeannie Jones]

AND SO IT WAS, from NAFALIA:

I just wanted to share with you the way it was, with Little Mikey. This is what I was led to write, as I was called to my computer:


DIRTY-FACED & BAREFOOT

First time I saw you when you were a mere 4 or 5 years old, there you stood in your child-like innocence.

Running around with your dirty little face & barefoot & happy as a child with not a care or worry on your little mind.

Knowing only that you were among your biker “ AUNTS & UNCLES “, all you knew or cared about was that you were safe & among those who would watch over you & protect you with our love.

As we all watched you grow & thrive, the only knowledge you required in your innocent life at that time was to know that we were there, by the sound of the Harleys coming home.

Then suddenly you were all grown up & it happened before we had the time to realize it had occurred.

Just as quickly you were a father & still the child at the same time. How did this happen & we did not notice???

Each time I spoke with you or your mom I could always be assured of hearing these words “ MISS NANCY, I LOVE & MISS YOU “.

Troubled was your life & there was nothing we could do about it as you were still growing into a man.

Before you could complete the journey from child to man, you one day quietly slipped away from us.

Now we who watched you as you were among us can only ask ourselves how did we not know, see or understand what you were going through.

Much too often we do not grasp another's sadness, because sadness is very quiet, though it runs so deep.

I sit here writing this for you so you might know that it was not because we did not care how you must have felt.

For all of us who watched you off & on during your life, I will say that “ WE ARE TRULY SORRY “ that some how or way we let you down.

I will ask for the all of us that you can forgive us for not looking deeper into the little child who was “ DIRTY-FACED & BAREFOOT “.

So “ LITTLE MIKEY “ can you hear us as we ask this of you & will you understand it was not because we did not care???

May you now at last find the peace which you searched for & could not find.


LOVING YOU ALWAYS,

PEACE ALWAYS
ALWAYS PEACE


“ Miss Nancy “

[DaBee]

Nafalia, how is Rowena doing? Have you had a chance to talk to her?
How are you doing? Were you out and about last night? Thought I saw you doing the Boot Scootin' Boogie all around the Big Dipper. Did you catch some of those moon beams and take them home in a jar?
love and light
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

Hi, Deb, I don't know about Nafalia's moonbeams, but I know that Born Here had the blues on Sirius last night! (See Late Night thread.)

Well, my DSL power cord power box is heating as we speak, so to speak, so I've gotta check my e-mail and shut 'er down.

BUT, may I say that I am feeling just better and better and better, coming off my meds. I'm now only taking one pill once a day! Oh, man, what a HUGE difference! Thanks, God, for giving us Botox!!!

Hope y'all have a wonderful Wednesday.

Love, peace, joy to all,

Jeannie

[Becky Davis]

I read this thread last night...but it was just too sad to respond to.
Nafalia your friend is going through just about the worst exerience a parent could endure. I did pray for her. Doubt it will bring her comfort, but maybe it will lead her to someone who can.
Patt..hang in there. It sucks that you have to do this. Really sucks.

[Jeannie Jones]

ONE LARGE MOONBEAM, from NAFALIA:

Hi, Deb, of course that was me Boot Scootin' Boogiein' out among the stars, and I caught a lot of moonbeams, especially this one large moonbeam. And I put 'em all in a jar, and now I'm having trouble sleeping, because my chamber room is so bright!

Guess I'll have to find a special place to find the moonbeams. Probably in the closet, maybe, to bring out when I'm looking for a special beam of light.

No, I've not spoken with Rowena as of yet, but I did hear through our other dear friend, Sheila, that as of Tuesday she was holding up pretty good. Of course, when everyone goes home and it's all over, that will tell the story.

My concern for Rowena is that since she'll be all alone and she doesn't have any blood family, her biker family is what holds her up, and she was told by the doctor a few months ago that she has a heart condition, so don't know what to expect after that.

Rowena is a tall, thin woman in her 40's, with long red hair down to her butt, and is a pretty tough gal, but I don't think anybody's tough enough to take what she's been through without some sort of backlash from somewhere in the body, mind or soul.

So it won't hurt to keep her in mind every once in a while, and maybe send her a moonbeam or 2.

As above,
So below,

Nafalia

[DaBee]

I'll do just that, NN.
JJ, it is amazing to me how well you are doing with the botox injections. How long does the effect last? Is it anything like a cortisone shot? Amazing that you're just down to one medication. Pretty soon you'll be able to drive to Eureka and join in a get-together or 2. Hey, maybe the Fools/Diversity weekend thingie! That's in April.
Gosh, we're all gettin' out and about, huh? I sure like it that we can come back here whenever we want...almost like a safe zone.
Ok, gettin' back out there now. Putting my skates back on. Wonder where I put that key?
love and light
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

ONE FOR STAN, from NAFALIA:

My b-i-l, Stan Hill, goes in for open-heart surgery in the morning (a triple bypass) at 7:30. He has to be at the hospital at 5:00. I just spoke with my sister. It's all just beginning to really hit them, and they're both pretty nervous tonight.

The good news is this: they spent the day at the hospital yesterday, pre-admitting and seeing the cardio-vascular surgeon, and instead of a quadruple bypass, there's only going to be a triple bypass, and Stan will not have to go on the heart machine. Instead of a 5 1/2 - 6 hour surgery, it'll be about a 3 1/2-hr. surgery.

So who says that this energy and love and Light that we send doesn't work?! SO, let's keep those cards and letters comin' in, folks!!! ;)

As we will it,
So shall it be,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

MMMMMMMMMWAAA, PATT, from NAFALIA:

Hi, Patt,

I know those set-ups can absolutely be a living nightmare. Of course, mine was not anything like that, because it was in the pelvic area, and I didn't have any rotator cuff problems and have to hold my arms up for 40 minutes. :eek:

And, of course, I know the treatments are like bang, bang, bang, or should I say zap, zap, zap, and I know after my radiation treatment I would always want to lay down, because I would be tired.

Just wanted to drop in here and let you know that I am still talking and walking with you a lot. I think of you very, very, very often and, of course, I still have the pink candle in my heart, and I keep it lit just for you.

I guess the best way to say it is we hang out, hang on, and hang in! smile.gif And everybody, just keep those cards and letters comin' in!!!

Love you well,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

NOTHING IS EVER BLACK AND WHITE, from NAFALIA:

Bud,

I asked Jeannie to put this in "Gratitudinally Speaking", for I chose to make it a more private answer than a public one.

I don't know that I would call myself a modern-day "perceiver of the future", for I don't know that it's possible for anyone to perceive the future.

I will tell you that some 30-odd years ago, I lost my central vision, which I feel was a gift, and that gift was "insight". For when you can only perceive peripherally, in the physical world, then you must use the central non-existing physical vision to look inward.

Over the years, I have not really put a lot of work into it, but the gift seemed to grow stronger as my life manifested and my life experiences expanded.

I do have around 95 essays which I have written on different concepts, perceptions, and observations of life. In short, I guess you could say, on spirituality.

Thank you for noticing and perceiving that there was more to me than what was on the back of a Harley. ;)

Now, how do I perceive you? The same as myself, an explorer of reality, and understanding that everyone's reality is different, because they have created it themselves by their choices.

I also perceive you as a man who has asked me this question, which is a very heavy-duty question, not only to see how I might perceive you, but to give you insight into the type of person that I am.

Understanding as one explores reality, that idealism also comes into play, and in order to blend the 2 together, we must not only use our minds, but we must also accept what our emotions tell us, for they are our unseen guides.

Hope this gives you an answer to a very complex question, and I will wait to hear your response. Thank you for perceiving who I truly am.

As we will it,
Spirit shall grant it,

Nafalia

[Becky Davis]

Asking for prayers and healing white light for a friend...Ursula.
She has been suffering severe pain and without a biopsy yet performed, the doctors have prepared her for the worst..ca of the pancreas.
She is scheduled for a biopsy next week.
She has always been a strong, strong woman. Independent. Believes in holistic medicine. Rarely sees a doctor and refuses to take medicine. Eats right. Is a masseur and administers colonics.
This has really sent her reeling.
She has suffered so much, it has reduced her to tears and she could no longer stay away from a hospital. The pain was too great.
She needs prayers and comfort at the moment. They sent her home until her biopsy. She lives in NLR and the thought of her being home alone in this weather is causing me much concern.
Please pray for her.

[DaBee]

My thoughts and prayers are with her, Becky.

[PMilam]

Same here, my thoughts and prayers, to Ursla, Becky.. the waiting game is torture.

Sometimes the treatment is torture, but at least you know where you stand.

I'm doing pretty good. Stayed all week with a friend that lives in Hog Eye.. she drove me to all my treatments, which was such a blessing. Plus, she is a dyn-o-mite cook. She cooks everything from scratch.. a homemade cranberry cheesecake was the highlight.

I had a 2 day headache, with vomiting. If not for her, I would not have gone to 2 treatments.. that would have been a drag.. but I just could not drive.

It's better, but still very hard to hold my arms up during treatment. Jude came over and spent one night, and both of them worked on my back, shoulders and feet.. relief!

I just hope I can get back to Fville on Monday.
Yesterday, they told me 17 more treatments.. plus 2 boosters. So... it's better/shorter than I thought! I'm grateful for that too!

Every one that works there is kind and gentle.. can't say as much for some people in the waiting room.. one white haired man, probably 10 yrs older than me, jumped my friend, when she picked up a Nat. Geo mag, on evolution.
He went on to her about how evolution could not be proved and was part of the liberal lie.. bla bla bla.. she kindly replied that we all have the right to our opinion, to which he replied.. you'll be sorry when the angel of death comes for you!

Of course, his wife has treatment about the same time as me, every day.. so there he is, every day.. she managed to avoid him from then on.


I haven't kept up much here or on geekfest.. I think of you all often, and pray that you are doing the very best that you can be.. that you have support and caring people around you to help you through your trials.

And I give thanks for the snow.. and that it came while I am home. It's so beautiful, the puppies are having a blast in it. The cats says no thanks.. and the birds are now eating cracked corn, since we are out of sunflower seeds.. they seem to like it just fine..

Blessings Be.

love,
Patt

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:
Blessing of "Healing LiGhT" to you~Pat and to Ursula. May the Blessings of the God/Goddess comfort you, promote healing and give you both comfort.in Peace~~ALWAYS.
:cool:

[Jeannie Jones]

REACHING OUT, from NAFALIA:

Becky, this is especially for you and your friend, Ursula. I reach out with my heart that she might feel the comfort and the Love, which it is obvious that you feel for her. And so, let us all join in a circle, so that we might send her all of the Love and the healing Light that we can.

From my heart to yours,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

17 YOU SAY?, from NAFALIA:

Patt, it was wonderful to hear that you will only have to take 17 more treatments, and that is very uplifting, for it says that things are better than we once thought it would have been.

I still burn the pink candle in my heart for you, and I think of you often, and I try to zero in on you when you're taking a treatment.

Knowing you are wrapped in the Love of those around you makes my heart sing, and when's one heart is singing, it is a song of joy and pleasure for another.

Love you well,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

MY BROTHER-IN-LAW STAN UPDATE, from NAFALIA:

Well everyone, once again it is obvious what the power of positive energy can do for another. My b-i-l Stan, who was to have a quadruple bypass and be on the heart machine for 5 hrs. during surgery, ended up with a triple bypass and NO heart machine.

Stan came through the surgery with flying colors. Of course, he's in pain, but he has a high pain tolerance. They're keeping his pain meds low, because of the need of that first all-important bm. The surgery was Friday, he's already out of ICU and up and around, able to have a little turkey and dressing & green beans, and tomorrow will get his shower.

Of course, my sister said that the R.N. sat by his bedside every moment of her shift, watching him. Very good care. She was very, very pretty, so when he first awakened, he saw this beautiful face smiling down at him. As my sister says, there's nothing that will make a man heal faster than a pretty face! smile.gif

Sue said that when she went in to see Stan, they made sure all of the tubes were covered up, and when she was by his bedside, his nurse stepped out to the nurse's station to have her dinner, and she never took her eyes off of Stan the whole time she was eating.

Sue came by this afternoon, as I'm only about 10 min. from the hospital, and she said Stan's color is VERY good and he already looks 10 yrs. younger. The nurses just love him, because he's joking around them and kidding with them, and, of course, it doesn't hurt that Stan is a very handsome, distinguished-looking gentleman.

The nurses and the doctors are all telling and bragging on Stan as to how well he is doing, and what a pleasure it is to have a patient like him, one who really wants to get well.

So, you see, loved ones, it really does pay to keep those cards and letters coming in.

As we will it,
Spirit shall grant it,

Nafalia

[DaBee]

My heart is full of love and thanksgiving for all that have faced themselves in the learning experiences of a lifetime. I feel so blessed to have these sweet words to read and feel. Thank you all for being there and being with.
love and light
deborah

[Jeannie Jones]

Originally posted by DaBee:
...JJ, it is amazing to me how well you are doing with the botox injections. How long does the effect last? Is it anything like a cortisone shot? Amazing that you're just down to one medication. Deb, the effect is said to last about 3 months. I'm scheduled for my next treatment March 20th. I'll see if its efficacy wanes as the date approaches. I'm not totally sure what cortisone's action is, but Botox is a nerve block. He also intentionally destroyed a nerve last time, and that in itself may be a tremendous contributor to controlling my tremor. I still have to be careful about over-stressing my shoulder and neck muscles, though. I can't wait to see if I get even more relief next time.


Pretty soon you'll be able to drive to Eureka and join in a get-together or 2. Hey, maybe the Fools/Diversity weekend thingie! That's in April. Yes. I'm really hoping to drive again soon, and have chosen just today to go to Fools/Diversity Weekend. Gaylord says he can put me up in town, so I just have to figure out how to break it to Mom. Ho boy. Wish me luck! She frightens easily these days, and I can understand it.


Gosh, we're all gettin' out and about, huh? I sure like it that we can come back here whenever we want...almost like a safe zone.
Ok, gettin' back out there now. Putting my skates back on. Wonder where I put that key?...Don'tcha just love it? It's safe now, but it seems like so many fewer people are posting. I hope they didn't feel driven away by all the nicey-nice, knowwhatImean?

Always loved skate keys, and was thinking of them just recently, what with all the ice skating/roller skating talk.

Well, folks, if I disappear for a while, it's computer problems, or rather surge protector prollems.

Love to all,

Jeannie

[Jeannie Jones]

Patt, you're always in my heart, and often in my mind. I pray that your treatments get easier this week, and am so grateful that you have so many loved ones to care for you. I send you positive thoughts, healing energy, and hold you in Love, dear heart, knowing that the feminine aspect of God is always with you, as you're one of Mary's girls. One of the many things we have in common, it seems.

Becky, for Ursula I've been asking that golden angels be sent to her, that Jesus grant her a healing, and that Mary will hold her in her loving arms.

Love and healing blessings all around,
God/dess bless us all, every one,

JJ

[Becky Davis]

Thanks Jeannie and all...I haven't talked to Martha who is checking in on her. Hopefully the pain meds have given her the relief she needs. Not eating, she has lost forty pounds.

[hangfriar]

Just a humble note of thanks to folks staffing the food bank @ 33 N.Main... may God bless and keep each of you, your kindness shall not be forgotten!

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:
Just heard that "Stan Hill" has been re-admitted to the hospital for heart complications.
We ALL need to send PURE WHITE HEALING LiGhT to Stan and Sue Hill, to heal, wrap and Bless them.
:cool:

[Jeannie Jones]

THE UNEXPECTED, from NAFALIA:

My b-i-l, Stan Hill, went home this past Tuesday afternoon, doing wonderfully well, looking good, and my sister said he looks 10 years younger.

All that changed about 2:00 AM Wed. He woke her up when he was in such pain in his back area, around the kidney, and in the groin, that he had to be rushed back to the hospital by ambulance. They ran tests, and by 10:00 he was readmitted to the hospital.

He was sent to a general surgery floor, because his cardiovascular surgeon said that this was not related to the triple bypass.

So a urologist was called in, and he said he could account for the pain on Stan's right side of his back, as he had probably had a small kidney stone and passed it, and the pain in his groin area was due to severe constipation. But the doctor said he could not account for the pain on the left side of the back.

Keeping in mind that Stan has been on clear liquids for several days now, and a tremendous amount of pain, and he has a morphine drip.

Yesterday he had a spell where he ran a fever for a while, then got nauseated and cold sweats and almost passed out.

For 2 or 3 hours they tried to get an IV started in him, so they could get antibiotics running again, but his veins have collapsed. So they decided to call in this 17-yr. veteran, and said if he couldn't get one started, nobody could! I do not know if the veteran got the IV started or not, as things have been changing so fast.

Stan has now been transferred back to the cardiovascular floor, to have IV calcium therapy (his calcium just bottomed out). He will also be having blood transfusions.

They moved him back to cardiovascular because he'll be closer to the ICU, as well as surgery, just in case they have to do something in a hurry.

Needless to say, Stan is completely exhausted, and my sister says he's bloated and looks horrible, and he is becoming very disheartened.

So, I guess it's obvious the reason I'm posting this. My b-i-l is in crucial condition, and they do not know where the bleeding is coming from, or what the severe pain is being caused from. So everybody, here we go again. Let's all send Stan & Sue all the Love, Light, and energy we have to spare, for this is very hard on both of them.

So once again, folks, it's time to keep those cards and letters coming in.

As we will it,
So shall it be,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

JUST WHEN, from NAFALIA:

Just when a person needs us the most, we always seem to make the journey for them. My b-i-l Stan, as of the last post, was just about to leave us. Today he is at home and doing well! The bleeding suddenly stopped on its own, they got the IV going, and the calcium and the potassium replaced, and he went home!!!

My sister said that they stopped by Wendy's, and he had a Jr. Burger, and he told her that she had no idea how good that tasted! But he had gone 7 days with nothing but Jell-O and broth.

When they got home, my sister fixed a fresh pot of homemade chicken noodle soup, he ate again, and went to bed, and at last report was resting well at last.

There is just no end to the power of the collective conscious mind and positive energy full of Love and healing Light.

So to one and all, a special "thank you" again, and may we always be able to continue with the energy that the peace rally raised. For I truly believe that some of that energy from that event went directly to my b-i-l, Stan.

Peace always,
Always peace,

Nafalia

[DaBee]

So good to hear this, Nafalia.
Yes, the energy went out from these hills and to the great beyond.
Have you been floating around again, NN?
Thought that was you! ;)
love and light
deb

[DaBee]

Are you at home this weekend, Patt?
Where are you at in the treatments?
How are you feeling?
It's good to see you posting.
Were you able to soak in some of the wonderful sunshine today?
Take care.
love and light
deb

[PMilam]

Yep, I'm home.. no sleep like home sleep.
I'm a little over 1/2 way.
It's rather like fibromyalgia* X 30, with a very, yucky, itchy rash!
Cortisone cream, Carries Rescue salve and otc sleep aid (benadryl) are allowing me to sleep.

I've had such cozy accommodations, healthy, fabulous foods, and best of all, loving kindness. Being in such good company almost makes it worth going through this. [I first wrote being is such good company.. I kinda like it] How often do most of us get to visit, alone, with good friends for a week, with no big activities to fill the time. Lots of 'getting to know you'... It's delightful!

It's usually one day of activity ... one day of inactivity. I felt so good on Thursday.. almost like my pre cancer days.. I was so encouraged. Well... now I will just take those days and soar. One those other day, I'll let my mind soar.

Jeannie.. was that not a thrill to see the photos from the Rally!?!? We were there.. thanks again for all the getting it together that took!!

I don't know if I'll be able to access my mail next week. The people will be out of town, and he's rather a geek, and makes his living with them.. so, I'm not sure he will feel comfortable with me getting on.. we'll see.

My wonderful cuzzin fixed up my very own account on his computer.. .. when it opens, there are their names.. and mine.. I have my own preferences, favorites, etc. so cool!

I'm bound and determined to see my babes tomorrow!!
I'm so looking forward to seeing them.. Audrey is walking.. I've missed her first weeks walking. I did see her take a few, the last time we were together. Jade has lost her first tooth, and Molly tells everyone, "Howed you nanna?


My heart is your heart,
My love is your love,
My peace is your peace,
My world is your world.

love,
Patt

[DaBee]

Been thinking about you Patt. We've been talking over on the other side about the peace vigil and since you were there, you just popped into my mind. Hope you're getting through this week in Fayetteville ok.
I wanted to step over here to make sure that I remain gratitudinally speaking, too.
love and light
deb

[PMilam]

had a good week.. first days a bit lonely.. then wens. evening my friend, Linda, from Calico Rock, came over.. and she stayed til l left today... so that was good.. girl talk time... arms and feet rubbed.. can't tolerate any touching on the radiated area now.. it's all red and looks like hives or some such.. never had that.. itches like mad and is now wrapping around the back of my neck.. the side of my neck is peeling. I bought 6 scarves in the past 3 days... can't wear a necklace, and only the softest tees feel at all comfortable.. and most of them are solid colors ... so.. scarves!!

I'll be back at Cuzzin Mike and Nancy's house next week. On the south end of Mt. Sequoia, beautiful spot, and delightful company. I'm getting to know the back roads of Fville pretty well! Mostly I sleep about 12 hours, try to get out and about for an hour or two before treatment, or just visit, if there's somebody that's not occupied. A little dinner, a tv show, or more visiting, and back to bed. I watch a lot of AFV.. America's Funniest Videos.. or Pet Videos, or anything that will make me laugh.

The therapists and everyone that works at NARTI (North Arkansas Radiation ... something something) are really sweet people.. kind and gentle. Today was a tough one.. they take x-rays ever so often, so that's at least twice the time with arms over my head.
I've been working on it.. and still.. it hurts like hell! I couldn't move my left arm right after. Usually, it's .. well not a piece of cake.. maybe an off brand cookie, but, it doesn't really hurt.

I had a bunch of prints made of some of my new water photos.. I am soooooo excited about them.. they are fabulous.


That's the weekend update.

love, joy and laughter, (well, now and then a few tears)
Patt

[DaBee]

Sure is good to hear from you, Patt. I'm guessing that all of the discomfort is to be expected with what you are going through. So glad you have so many loved ones around.
I loved the one upside down water photo that you posted. Is this what you're talking about?
Would you be able to share the new ones with us?
Past my bedtime, so I'll scoot on outta here.
love and light
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

Oh gosh, Patt, didn't realize I hadn't been here in sooooo looooong!

It's wonderful to know that you're past the half-way mark already. Glad to know that you have some "good" days! What a blessing to have such loving friends and family.

Glad you've found some scarves you like to help you mask your rash. That must drive you to distraction. I HAVE had hives, and it's no fun. I can't imagine having something like that for an extended period! At least we know you know that "this too will pass". ;)

Yes, how grand was that...to be there at the peace rally and to even see pictures of our pictures there!!! And I really hope we'll be able to see your water pictures soon.

Wishing you joy and the balm of Love, Patt,

Jeannie

[Becky Davis]

Ursula had surgery a couple of days ago...Martha has still not called me with a report. I am hoping no news is good news...but fearful..still praying.

[DaBee]

Usually no news is good news, so let's just ride on the wing of good news. Still praying with you, Becky.
How have you been doing, Becky? I know the little 'un keeps you busy and moving. I also know that sometimes that's exhausting. It's hard work keeping up with a toddler.
How has your son been doing with the lupus? Hope he's been feeling healthy and is able to work.
When is it that you're visiting Eureka next?
Sure would like to catch you and have coffee or lunch or a party. Where will you be staying?
Keep us informed!
love and light
deb

[Becky Davis]

My plans are to be there March 21 with Leslie and Stazi....staying with my Timmy.
Would love to see ya...Maybe for Wed coffee?

[Jeannie Jones]

SO GOOD TO HEAR, from Nafalia:

Patt, so good to hear you're more than half-way there! It was at the half-way mark that they had to stop my radiation treatments, because of the burn.

I do certainly understand the days when you feel like soaring, and also the days when the mind soars and the body rests. I find I still require a lot of rest. But things are going well, all in all.

Hope you find a lot of lovely, soft scarves, to enhance your already beautiful self.

Keeping the candle burning,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

ON THE WINGS OF A DOVE, from NAFALIA:

Becky, here's hoping that the news that you receive about Ursula will come on the wings of a pure white dove.

As above,
So below,

Nafalia

[PMilam]

Well... I guess now I'm about 1/2 way through.
I had asked the therapist, last week or whenever that was that I reported 17 to go... well.. Tues, when I saw Doc Hershey .. mmm... chocolate... he said... well, only 3 and 1/2 weeks to go! So... I'm just drifting along the river of denial... laugh as much as I can, and try to not stop the tears when they want to come.

So, back to my cuzzins' house on Monday.. and there, I have almost anytime at all to myself on the computer.. so, that helps. I get to keep up here.. some. Cuzzin Mike is retired, so he putters around, and/or just sits with me and we tell great stories.. he's even gotten me to carry a little recorder.. well.. I'm carrying it.. haven't turned it on, except to make sure it works.

His lady friend/partner has a part time job, just a few blocks from their home, so she walks to and from.. 3 cats and a sweet dog keep them on their toes!

The blessing of it all is the fact that I'm getting to spend a lot of time with people that I usually just spend short spurts of time with.
My cousin Mike.. that Craig and I reconnected with when we lived in LR. He was an army brat, and I seldom ever saw him.
But, when we re-met.. it was like we shared old secrets.. which we do.. family secrets.. and... Mike is a sweetheart.. and recently retired. He was a govt. worker.. med tech.. so he was working at the LR VA when we moved to LR.

This last week I stayed at good friends, as I did the week before that.. they are all so considerate of my sleep habit... I sleep at least 12 hrs a day.. and lie down a lot.. but, they also make me get up and out some.. which also helps me to recall that there is a world out there. Ben lives in Fville, so I get to see him a lot.. tho.. I don't really want to sleep on his extra futon on the floor, and hang out with a bunch of 20 something guys... for long.. I do enjoy an hour or two of it. He fixed dinner for me one night. We shared a few more meals.

Craig is always so happy for me to be home! He makes a bigger effort to actually be here when I'm home!!

Like I told him last night.. I don't feel confident that I have years to wait for him to retire.. I want to spend time with him NOW.

I know I have now... not so sure about years to come. My "prognosis is good"... but.. you know, when you have cancer twice in two years... it makes you wonder... and wonder I do.

[DaBee]

Patt....is there anything that you can put on the radiation burns that will help ease the pain? Is it like a chemical or heat burn? Would something as simple as aloe vera help?
How long is it until Craig retires? I hope y'all get to go to wonderful places and spend lots of time together soon.
Nafalia....I've been wondering how Stan is doing. How are the docs talking about how is health is now?
Also thinking about your friend, Rowena, after the loss of her son. Have you been able to talk to her yet? My hope for her is that she is able to start working through the grieveing process. Sometimes that 1st step is a really big one.
Also thinking about you, Nafalia. How is your energy level and endurance now? Any problems with the vertigo or is that doing better with the treatments? For you and JJ to be talking about traveling plans in a few months indicates to me that you're doing better and better. JJ too.
Only the best to everyone.
love and light
deb

[PMilam]

As my prayers are with each of you, please keep me in yours.

I am using a sort of cortisone that is not so hard on the skin. It has a long name I don't remember.. and Vit E with aloe.. and Carries Rescue Salve. (www.oldworldapothecary.com)

I've developed a blister.. under a piece of tape.. they have my "marks" covered with a tough tape that stays in place.. and I'm of course allergic to it.. the blister, which came up Sat. is now the size and shape of an almond.. weird.. and it itches.

And I would take this any day.. and much more.. over losing a child. I don't even want to imagine that sort of pain. Special blessings on Rowena and her family.

Well.. I'm off to Fville.. cuzzin' Mikes'.. complete with computer access!!

I'm doing a very slow rain dance out here.. anybody get any of that last one that came through? We got a damp sidewalk.

I even got out and watered yesterday!!


love you gals and guys...
Patt

[Jeannie Jones]

HOWLING AT THE MOON AND UPDATING, from NAFALIA:

DaBee, and everyone else,

My b-i-l Stan is progressing very well. He will see the cardio-vascular surgeon on Friday. Also he will begin his cardio-vascular rehabilitation therapy some time next week.

As for Rowena, I've not spoken with her, but my other friend has, and she seems to be holding together pretty well. She has decided to sell the house and buy another one, which I think is a good idea. At this point, this is all I have on those 2 loving souls, and as soon as I know more, I'll let you know.

So mote it be,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

PATT, I STILL HAVE THE CANDLE BURNING, from NAFALIA:

And it shall stay lit 'til your flowers are in full bloom, along with your healing being completed.

Love you well,

Nafalia

[Becky Davis]

Grave news for Ursula....her sickness is too widespread. God bless her...miracles do still happen. Please pray for one.

[Jeannie Jones]

Oooooooh, my, Becky. Tough news. Prayers of Light and Love and blessings for Ursula in this time which must seem like the darkest in her life. We don't know what's around the corner for us, and, as you say, let's leave room for a miracle.

Sure hope that we can get together with you, Becky, when Nafalia and I hit Hot Springs. Would love to finally meet you, and maybe spend a little time together.

Love to you, and holding the vision of a healing miracle for Ursula,

Jeannie

[Jeannie Jones]

Patt, I know you'll be happy to be back at cuzzin Mike's, with plenty of computer access! I've missed reading your comments here and there, but sure was happy to see your photos! Good eye for a great shot, my dear.

Well, you're over the hump, and it sounds like you're being kind to yourself, which is an absolute must, of course. It also helps to have such loving people around you. Since you're over half-way through with treatments, I choose to view it as being almost over.

It's easy to understand your wanting Craig to retire now, and be with you. I hope he finds it within himself to be able to do that for you. He sounds so devoted to his practice, but I pray that he will feel it is time to be at home.

Well, my dear, continued prayers for you, and for all of us,

Love,

Jeannie

[PMilam]

I am so sorry to hear about Ursula. When you said pancreatic... I just cringed. It's fast.

My dear, dear friend, my ex mother in law, Katy, died some years back with pancreatic cancer. As soon as we heard, Loretta, Craig and I went to Texas, as we knew it would not be long. She was in her late 80's, but the spriest.. is that a word? woman I've known.. even as she aged. She probably read more books than all of us combined.
I think that's where Loretta got her passion for reading. I read a bit.. but nothing like her.

So, Becky.. spend time with her, if you can. Help her be comfortable, and love her.. and let her cry all the tears.. I know that Katy felt it was her time.. no doubt.. but, when as young as we are.. it's hard to say.. ok.. it's my time.

I know I'm not ready to say that..

I don't see how Craig can retire now.. but what I would love to see happen, is for him to work 1/2 the time he does now... that would be about 40 hrs. a week.. that I could handle.. he could be home before dark in the longer days.. and we could have time for walks, talks, gardening.. and his all time favorite.. mowing.
I think I've posted a photo from my porch.. if not, I'll try to find one.. he has mowed.. AND hand raked the huge field in front of our house. He says it's meditative. Sure keeps him in shape, along with running. He's a cutie..
OTR... stay away!! I know what a flirt you are!!

If I could figure out how to post from here.. I'd post one that I just took, over the weekend.
Sat. morning, he had taught ACLS(Advanced Cardiac Life Support), so, he had on a nice shirt, new jeans, and his silver tipped belt.
I was sitting on the couch in the spare bedroom, where he was ironing. Another of his meditations.. he just looked so darn cute.

I know.. no one should ever brag to other women about how great her man is... but.. he is.

I just want to have more time with him.

We're not the rich doctor family... I mean, he does make more than the average.. but.. when averaged out, the hours vs. the pay.. he makes less than our electriction or plumber.
And, tho we did not go through an organization, he did charity work for 14 years, in Izard Co. Only a handfull of people had insurance, fewer had money, and some of those had Medicare and Medicaid. So, we lived on what the gubmint paid.
$7 for an office call.. $300.. for prenatal care AND delivery.. after delivery. And of course if you missed one number on your form, they would send it back circled in red. That would mean another month before the possibility of payment.

We left the mother country with very little, owing very much... and 4 kids. Well.. by the time we left, Loretta was making her own way. Thank God for her scholarships, and grandparents!

Man.. I'm writing a book here.. hope I have not revealed too much to cyberspace!

uh.. I can't find spell check on here.. so.. now you know the real truth.

[Becky Davis]

Lovely, Patt. Simply lovely.

[DaBee]

I love it when women brag and gush over their wonderful men....and vica versa. It gives promise and hope to others. It shows us what deep love and committment can produce. It shows me that if I step up to the plate with a relationship and give it my all, good results CAN happen. I appreciate your honesty with us; it's so refreshing, Patt. I don't know what you have said here that could harm you & yours from cyberspace.
I want you and your husband to have all the time in the world together. We surely need more healers like Dr. Milam, to help balance "things".
love and light to you both
deb

[DaBee]

Spirit Of The Sea
Whale Medicine

Native Americans teach us that the Great Spirit speaks to us through our animal brethren. The whale is one animal that we can learn from. Whales have existed for over 50 million years and are considered to be record-keepers who possess knowledge of the past.

It is through the vibrations of their unique sound that they release this ancient wisdom to us. At the same time, their sound carries across such great distances that whales can enter the realm of the future where they can acquire knowledge of what is to come. Every whale sings a song, and they never repeat the same pattern when they sing their song. Since whales must be conscious at all times in order to breathe, they cannot afford to fall into an unconscious state for too long. Never completely asleep, their brain has constant access to the collective unconscious where all answers lie. Whales float peacefully, secure in the ocean environment that supports and sustains them.

You can learn from the wisdom of whales by remembering to express what's uniquely yours. Each of us has a unique "song" or gift to offer the world. Your song is meant to be sung by you and heard by others. No one else can sing this song but you, and your song is medicine for the healing of the planet. Like whales, you can choose to access information about the future when you go into a meditative state. Whales teach us to look at where we came from and where we are headed. Knowing that our past helps shape our future, we can remember to make positive choices regarding our lives, the environment, and our world. Like whales, we can remember to stay awake and actively engaged in a universe that supports and sustains us. When we express ourselves and share our unique gifts, we add our wisdom and vibration to the planet.

[DaBee]

Early this afternoon I had posted on Open Forum about how the glands in my neck were swollen and I thought it was allergies. Right after that I decided to go to the doc because my neck just kept swelling till I now look like a croaking frog on one side. After waiting 3 hrs in his office as a work-in, he gave me an rx for an antibiotic. Said it seemed like maybe a salivary gland got clogged up. Sometimes they get a little tiny piece of calcium built up. He said either that or maybe a tumor. EeeGads I wish he hadn't said that. I am not prone to worrying, but that just kinda caught me off guard. I'm going to start putting heat packs on it and I've started the Keflex. Didn't want to go this route to be honest with ya. I was heading to get some echinacea/goldenseal, but realizing that this was late Friday, thought I'd better take some more drastic measures.
Anyway, that's the deal with me today and I wanted to share with my light friends 'cause that's just what we do.
love and light
deb

[Becky Davis]

Glad you went to the doc Dabee. I believe in doctors.

[Becky Davis]

My son is having a hard time and unable to work so many days. In fact, if his potassium level doesn't go down he will go into the hospital Monday...should have gone yesterday, but fighting it because of money.
He voiced his concerns of money to the doctor and the doctor told him...not to worry about his end of it. He would treat him for no charge if he should lose his insurance.
I thought that was mighty nice of this doctor. Don't find them like this very often. We are very greatful for him.

[DaBee]

That really is a nice Doc, Becky. When your son has the high potassium level how do they treat for it? I know that money worries sure don't help in the healing process, but maybe this will give him a little relief. Is he in jeopardy of losing his job? I wonder if he would be able to get disability if he wasn't able to work up to capacity because of the Lupus.
The best to Jeremy and his wife and son and of course you, too, Becky. I know that this is a family ordeal and you're sure always there for them. I pray for strength for you also.
love and light
deb
I want to keep the focus on Jeremy, but thought I'd let you know that it's a real good possibility that what I'm experiencing with the neck swelling now is another one of the ugly faces of Lupus/Ra....auto-immunune system disorder. It's called Sjogren's Disease and has to do with the system of the body that produces lubricant, such as tears, moisture in the mouth, etc. I'm sure hoping it's not that because it's not reversible though it can be dealt with somewhat. I still have the swelling this morning, but doesn't seem as bad but it's getting painful. I know that this too shall pass.

[Becky Davis]

I am not sure what they will do in the hospital. I would imagine diuretics and fluids.

[Jeannie Jones]

Originally posted by Becky Davis:
Glad you went to the doc Dabee. I believe in doctors. Yes, Deb, when it's time to see a doc, you've just gotta do it. So glad you went. Here's hoping it's a calcium-clog. If that IS the case, what do they do to bust it up? Does the antibiotic itself take care of that? Well, I guess it must, since that's what he gave you.

Girl, it just seems like it's been one thing after another for you. But I also know it takes a LOT to get a good woman down. This may seem pretty off-the-wall, but have you cried much here lately? Just wondering if you might need to do some of that for a heart-lifting. Just a thought.

Loving you, dear heart,

Jeannie

[Jeannie Jones]

Originally posted by Becky Davis:
...He voiced his concerns of money to the doctor and the doctor told him...not to worry about his end of it. He would treat him for no charge if he should lose his insurance. Y'know, Becky, if Jeremy were living up here, I'd have to ask if his doctor's name was Craig Milam!!!

All kidding aside, sweetie, my heart and prayers are with you and Jeremy, as well as Ms. Deb and Ms. Patt, in this time of great intensity, pain, and physical discomfort. May the Blessed Mother, or the Divine Feminine, wrap us all in soothing, healing Loving comfort.

With sweet Love,

Jeannie

[Becky Davis]

No...he's the cutie who looks like Johnny Depp. Been so long since I have seen Craig, I've forgotten which cutie he looks like.

[Jeannie Jones]

WONDERFUL HUSBANDS, from NAFALIA:

Patt, it is so nice to hear you talk about your wonderful husband. I, for one, can personally relate to what you are saying about him, because 10 yrs. ago I was, as far as we were concerned, married to a wonderful, wonderful man, who was a retired chemical engineer. Such a wonderful man I had never known in my life. And your Craig sounds so much like my Bruce.

We were together 18 months before he died in my arms after a heart attack. I did CPR, but it just wasn't enough.

Now, some 10 yrs. later, even though our time was short together, every moment was an entire lifetime. So I was gifted with a man who I can say I never met a woman who didn't adore him, nor a man who did not admire him.

Still in all of this, he was giving to others of himself, and taught me the most important lesson I ever learned in my life, and that was what it means to be loved just because someone wants to, and does not need to.

I, too, used to watch him as he used to do things, and think "This wonderful, wonderful man, so handsome and so self-confident, and still he is the most humble man I ever met in my life". So I can truly say I know EXACTLY what you are saying. Now is the time, hopefully, you and Craig can have more time, because it sounds like you both have given more than your share of yourselves.

As we will it,
So shall it be,

Nafalia

P.S. Bruce's favorite thing was also mowing the yard!

[Jeannie Jones]

NECK PROBLEMS, from NAFALIA:

DaBee, I certainly hope that your neck problems are resolved quickly and painlessly. I can understand how the word "tumor" must have been something that would have set you back.

Let us all focus on the fact that this prescription will clear up the problem, and you will once again be out drawing down moonbeams and soaking up a little sunshine, and laughing in the rain.

My thoughts, love, and energy, as always, are yours for as long as you need.

Love you well,

Nafalia

[Jeannie Jones]

JEREMY, from NAFALIA:

Becky, Jeannie just read me your posts about your son. If you would just close your eyes and reach out your hand, I will be there to hold it.

What a doctor! And what a gift you've been given in this gentle man. Here's hoping Jeremy does well, and also that you're holding on and doing well yourself.

If at all possible, when Jeannie and I hit Hot Springs, it would be very wonderful and exciting to be able to meet you face-to-face! Even if it was just over a cup of coffee for an hour or so, as I know you have much in your life that you must deal with at this time.

My love rides with you, and always on your left shoulder. Feel me there, and I shall touch you from my spirit to yours.

So mote it be,

Nafalia

[DaBee]

I especially like #5. I'm finding that being on the Open Forum and just kinda letting it all hang out has been a freeing experience for me. I love the word-play back and forth and the teasing and, of course, the caring. Always know that I can run back here for regrouping when things get kinda scarey...sometimes this life stuff does that.

Expanding Their Vision
Nine Ways To Help Others Awaken To Consciousness

1. Living by your values allows you to become a positive source of inspiration for others. Don't hide - express yourself and embrace life without reservation. By simply being yourself, you can help the people in your life see how one person can make a difference by being a living example of consciousness.

2. When you communicate your views, do so casually and in a nondogmatic manner. Allow the people you speak with to ask questions. Offer only as much information as they are ready to hear.

3. Igniting the spark of consciousness can be as easy as giving someone a gift. A favorite book, a medicine bag, or a beautiful gemstone can pique your loved ones' curiosity and prompt them to begin an exploration of the soul.

4. Teaching a friend, relative, or colleague to meditate or chant can put them on the path to consciousness while simultaneously reducing their stress levels.

5. Others may want to know more about living consciously but are unsure of how to begin. Starting a discussion group - even a virtual one - can help you reach out to individuals that are eager to learn.

6. By recognizing and acknowledging the inherent value in everyone you encounter, you can teach them how to value others. Sometimes, the easiest way to encourage people - even challenging ones - to respect others is to respect them first.

7. Invite people from your personal and professional lives to join you in attending a ceremony or ritual. The experience may touch them in a profound way or introduce them to a new spiritual path.

8. Casually point out the interconnectedness of all living beings using concrete, everyday examples. Many people are unaware of how their actions affect the world and are intrigued when they learn of the power they hold.

9. Introduce your loved ones to conscious living in a lighthearted and enjoyable way. Serve delicious organic recipes at gatherings, volunteer as a group, and show them how wonderful it can feel to be truly aware and connected to the universe.

[Jeannie Jones]

DIFFERENT EYESIGHT, from NAFALIA:

Ever since my chemo, my eyes have been EXTREMELY light-sensitive. So much so, that I have to wear dark glasses, even in the house.

Have seen my low vision specialist before today, on this issue, and he prescribed a new pair of glasses with a special filtering device in them, to help with the light sensitivity. And also got me a pair of overglasses to wear when I was outside, to help more with the light sensitivity.

Long story short, I noticed 2-3 weeks ago that my vision was changing. A few days ago I noticed a pretty drastic vision drop. Called him yesterday, and he saw me today.

This is what he found. Some scar tissue is pulling my retina to the left inside corner of my right eye (which, up to now, has been a little stronger than the left).

Good news is there's no hemorrhaging in the eye, but the Dr. feels there's leakage behind the eye somewhere.

This Dr. wants me to see my retina specialist, so I called him today while still in Dr.'s office, told the receptionist what was going on, and I will see the retina specialist tomorrow at 1:30.

At this point, there are several scenarios which could play out, but I'm not going to say anything about them until I come home from the Dr. tomorrow. Don't want to be putting anything out there that doesn't need to be.

Wanted to share this with you all, and ask that as many as possible join me tomorrow at 1:30, as I go to find out what can/will be done.

We all know the power of the collective consciousness, and the power of prayer and positive thinking. That's what I'm asking for.

When I return from the Dr. tomorrow, I will fill in the blanks then, but as of now, I don't know what the blanks are.

Loving you all well,

Nafalia

[DaBee]

I'm with you at 1:30 tomorrow, sweet Nafalia.
love and light
deb

[PMilam]

Blessings, dear heart.

[DaBee]

This afternoon I was holding your hand, Nafalia, and also my d-i-l's Chrystal's hand. I'm focusing healing light your way, both of you.
love and light
deb

[Jeannie Jones]

I GUESS THIS TRULY IS BLACK AND WHITE, from NAFALIA:

Saw the retina specialist today, and found out I truly am one in a million (at least in the medical world)! Summing it up in as few words as possible, the chemo created a blister on the peripheral vision on my right eye, left side. When that blister ruptured, it formed a scar. The Dr. said this only happens after chemo about one in a million times.

What this means is simply this: that portion of my peripheral vision is permanently gone. I was not surprised to hear this, as I've gone through several stages of vision loss, and I know when it happens, what it means.

As far as the extreme sensitivity to light, and the floaters (which are many), only time will tell if they will go away.

The doc said that as my body heals from the chemo, it's possible it may go away and it may not. I certainly believe it will.

The vision loss is not something I cannot adjust to, as I've done this many times. Granted, any vision loss to me, no matter how small, is a major thing, since my vision is so low anyway. No need to cry over spilled milk, just get a new bowl of milk. I choose to believe the extreme sensitivity to light, and the floaters, will disappear, as they are very distracting and very difficult to deal with. So begone with you! smile.gif

At least I did not have to go through the tests I was dreading so much, http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/icons/icon91.giffor the good news is there's no hemorrhage or leaking behind the eye. So looking on the positive side, as I heal, the floaters and the light sensitivity will also be healed.

As you all know, I knew you were with me, which always makes everything easier. I'm truly okay with what I found out today, and plan on going on with my life as though it did not happen.

Thanks one and all for your help. Now let us get on down the road of life, with a smile on our faces, and love in our hearts.

As we will it,
So shall it be,

Nafalia

P.S. It was one year ago today, that I was told I had cancer. Don't know that I care too much for St. Patrick's Day. Next St. Patrick's Day may be a totally different story! smile.gif

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:
Blessings of Healing PURE WHITE LiGhT to each and everyone of you to aid in your healing and recovery for all these trying times.
I will you ALL well and encourage all sickness to BEGONE~~
As Above
So Below
:cool:

[DaBee]

Like a candle used to light another candle, the connection with spirit that results when one person joins hands with another is greater than if each person were to stand alone.

[Becky Davis]

ursula has chosen not to have chemo. she thinks it is too advanced and makes her too sick. she is however having chelation and it seems to be working wonders. don't know much about it.

[DaBee]

Is Ursula at home, Becky? Does she have anyone there with her? I've heard of it, but will have to look up chelation therapy...can't remember.

[DaBee]

I found a lot of naysayer sites about Chelation. This is an explanation from a holistic site: http://www.holistic-online.com/Chelation/chel_ben_cancer.htm

Free radicals play an important role in the genesis of cancer. By removing the metallic anions from the blood stream, EDTA helps the cells to remain healthy and helps the damaged cells to heal. Research has shown a decrease in the incidence of death by cancer after EDTA treatment. We don't know the mechanism of action. In some forms of cancer, the use of EDTA was found to strip the tumor cells of their protective coat, allowing other mechanisms (such as protein digesting enzymes) to destroy the tumors.

[Becky Davis]

she is and she does. her sister flew over from germany. i don't think the chelation, is by any means a cure, but it is making her feel better. i really hope it is though. she bought a little cottage a couple of blocks from me and she has been working on it for a long time...she wants to move into it before she leaves, so she will be close to martha, who is her best friend. even if it is for a couple of weeks, she wants to live in it.

[Jeannie Jones]

BECKY, I'm so glad that the chelation therapy is at least helping Ursula to feel more comfortable. There's a lot to be said for that. Glad that she has someone with her, and that she has her new cottage near you. At least you'll be able to spend a little time with her before she departs.

PATT, it's always so good to see you pop in every now again, here and "over there"! ;)


Originally posted by DaBee:
Like a candle used to light another candle, the connection with spirit that results when one person joins hands with another is greater than if each person were to stand alone. So beautiful, Deb, and isn't this exactly our intent here in this space you created?!

God bless us every one, and our loved ones, too,

JJ

[Jeannie Jones]

TO URSULA, from NAFALIA:

Becky, here's hoping that Ursula enjoys her time in her cottage, as soon as she gets there.

Jeannie read to me about the chelation, and I'm so glad to know that Ursula is getting some relief. And no matter what, we hold hope in our hearts, and with hope, all things are possible.

Only wanted to let you know I was thinking of you, and hope that you are not wearing yourself out too much, so that your time with Ursula will be the best you've ever had.

As we will it,
So shall it be,

Nafalia

[Becky Davis]

Actually, I am not doing anything to wear myself out. Martha is...and I know she gets quite tired. She is like the ever ready bunny I think. She runs back and forth and has spent hours at the bedside as well as working. Ursulas sister coming has given her some well deserved rest.
Thanks for your prayers and concern. They are so appreciated and being conveyed to her.

[DaBee]

Also, Becky, please convey to Martha that she continues to be the fine, loving person that I've always known her to be. Though I haven't seen her in probably 10 years, I always think about her when I go into Eureka....especially when driving by the Old Brick Schoolhouse lot on Kansas.
Your concern and friendship of Ursula is also to be commended. You're the link that allows us to know of this special person in your life.
love and light
deb

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:
Pure White Healing LiGhT to your D-I-L.

May "Spirit" wrap arms around her to comfort and Bless. LiGhTwOrKeRs join hands and Bless this young lady and allow ALL Healing.
As We Will It
So Shall It Be.

:cool:

[Jeannie Jones]

Oh, DEB, I meant last night to ask how Chrystal was doing, but shut the computer down before I remembered to do so.

Sorry to hear that she's going through these health issues at all, much less so young. What a GREAT blessing that she's already had children!

BECKY, are we talking Martha Brown here? If so, I had lost sight of that fact. What a sweet person she is, and how fortunate Ursula is to have a friend like her!

[Jeannie Jones]

I had my Botox treatment in F'ville today, and when I went in, I showed him that my neck was still binding around 1/4 of a neck rotation. (When I started this, my neck "bound" and bucked throughout the entire rotation of my neck, you know, dropping the head, relaxing and rotating all the way around.) Last time he intentionally destroyed a nerve, and when I get the Medicare statement, I'll find out if he did the same this time. Although of course he couldn't do anything about the crunchy sound it makes all the way around, I now can do a
full
........normal
....................rotation!!!
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This time I asked him what my dosage was, and he told me 300 mg. divided between 3 syringes. He didn't dance the needle around at all this time, but did only more deliberate injections. One felt really weird, and I told him, "Wow! I felt that right here", showing him the middle of my left bicep. He said he had hit the nerve which controls movement of the left arm. Strange feeling!

I (half-) jokingly suggested that if there were any left over, maybe he could put it in my face, and he said, "Let's take a look at your face". I felt a ray of hope! Then I told him that I had recently lost 3 teeth, and that after they were removed, all these lines popped up around my mouth. He said that they couldn't do it around the mouth. Sigh. To me, the rest of the lines are age-appropriate, and would look odd if I didn't have them. Also, I've found some extremely good products that are helping to
minimize
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....................................of aging.
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We went to eat afterwards at Johnny Carino's for the first time in a looooong time, though neither of us could really afford it, (I'm still paying a LARGE chunk monthly for my teeth) and it was just so wonderful, the food, the music, the wine, oh, it was great! So all in all it's been one fine day! smile.gif

[Becky Davis]

Yes Jeannie, Martha Brown. She has been a close good friend for a lot of years. Deb, I'll bet if you were to see her, you would think she looks exactly as she did the last time you saw her. Don't know how she does it. She is so busy all of the time. She's a go bug.
I will certainly keep Chrystal in my thoughts and prayers. I know 31 is too young for a hysterectomy. I guess the docs take in family history etc, but I would not fail to get a second opinion on that one.
I had a hysterectomy in my forties. Didn't mind at all, but taking my ovaries changed my life for the worst and I feel as if I didn't get proper counseling. If I had druthers, I wouldn't do it again. I think it aged my body overnight.

[Jeannie Jones]

HYSTERECTOMY? from NAFALIA:

Deb, sorry to hear about C. And, yes, watching someone you love in pain is so very difficult. I will and have been keeping her in my thoughts, sending all I have to spare her way.

I had a hysterectomy when I was 27, and an oofrectomy when I was 32. Fortunately I guess, for me, I really didn't notice any change. Had a few hot flashes for a few months, and that's been pretty much it.

I've seldom taken hormones, even though the doctors have tried to get me to, and I would for a while and then quit, and then finally, many years ago, I just quit and never would take any more.

My mother went through the change of life and never even knew it, and my 2 older sisters and myself went through it and hardly knew it. My youngest sister, who still has all of her female organs, seems to be experiencing all types of things with her menopause. Other than that, hopefully C will go through it with no problems at all.

Now, I SAY I experienced no problems that I noticed, but we might attribute me being so eccentric to the change of life, so maybe I did experience something and didn't realize it. smile.gif Ah, yes, I was a very eccentric child, too. Kids that don't play with other kids are eccentric, and I was one of those, 'cause they always confused me as to why they wanted to argue and cry and all that.

I've been told by my older brothers and sisters that when kids would start being kids, I would just look at them in total disgust and walk away and go play by myself. So maybe it wasn't the hysterectomy that caused all this. Maybe it's just me being me!!! :rolleyes:

Love you well,

Nafalia

[Becky Davis]

On chelation, I am thinking I would love to have it. I think with all of the mercury warnings out there, alot of us may have too many heavy metals in our system. I know I must have overdosed my kids on tuna. We used to love it and still do, but it doesn't seem to taste the same now.
If I had a child with autism. I would definitely consider having chelation for that child. I would love for Jeremy to have it, but it could be dangerous with his kidney disease.

[DaBee]

I thought the same thing when I was reading about the chelation therapy, Becky. The deal with tuna and any other fish with me now is that it makes me nauseated or else it comes right back up as soon as it touches my stomach. (sorry about that, but thought it was important to tell) I also got all of the silver out of my mouth. The dentist I go to here says that the mercury and other metals used in the old (and new) amalgams can be quite toxic plus they hold a lot of bacteria. There's other techniques and material used now that are non-toxic and long lasting.
I've read some about the aluminum and/or chemical build up in the brain possibility in both autism and alzheimers.
Does Martha keep you updated on Ursula or do you talk to her yourself? Please let us know how this therapy is going with her.
NN....thank you for the feedback about the hysterectomy situation. I think it's great to have personal stories and situations to be able to pass on. I know that only wise choices will be made in all of this, but information and experiences help in the forming of choices.
love and light
deb

[Becky Davis]

Yes...I get updated. Her bloodwork has improved alot. The oncologist was pretty amazed..but she did decide to have a heavy duty chemo treatment. Been gone this week so don't know how she has fared. Quite ill I imagine.
UAMSC had a nationwide study on chelation and needed guinea patients, but I believe it has been over for a year or so. Wish I had known about it.
I am really aching in the hip..driving I guess combined with the cold. I know it is an inflamed tendon. Couldn't keep the little one long yesterday. But in a few days I'll be back in groove. Whatever I do in a day, I pay for the next days.
Speaking of that program House. Last nights episode had a ball player in kidney failure and all of the symptons of addisons disease. Turns out, (this is far fetched)he had cadium poisoning from smoking pot that was grown in earth with the heavy metal. First sympton is loss of smell.

[DaBee]

The Truth Of Interdependence
Connection

Picking a leaf off the ground and contemplating it as an object in and of itself is very inspiring. Its shape and color, the way it feels in your hand, its delicate veins and the stem that once held it fast to the branch of a tree-all of these qualities reveal a leaf to be a miniature work of natural art. As we contemplate this small object more deeply and consider where it came from and what purpose it has served, we find that the leaf is one small but essential part of a system that harnesses the energy of the sun, plumbs the depths of the earth, and in the process brings into being the oxygen many living things rely on to live.

A leaf transforms the elements of its environment-sunlight, carbon dioxide, rain-into nourishment for its tree. This beautiful, nearly weightless, ephemeral piece of nature is a vital conduit to the branch that is a conduit to the trunk that is a conduit to the roots of the tree. The roots, in turn, draw nourishment from the earth to feed the trunk, the branches, and the leaves. The living beings that inhale the oxygen that comes from this process exhale the carbon dioxide that feeds the leaves through which the tree is fed. It is difficult to know where one cycle ends and another one begins.

One of the many gifts that nature offers us is a clear demonstration of the interdependence between all living things. The person who exhales the carbon dioxide, the clouds that produce the rain, the sun that gives light, the leaf that transforms all these things into sustenance for a tree-not one of these could survive without being part of this cycle. Each living being is dependent upon other living things for its survival. When we look at the world, we see that this is not a place where different beings survive independently of one another. Earth is home to a web of living things that are connected to each other through a spinning kaleidoscope of relationships. We need each other to survive and thrive.

[rdd]

pray for our angel - hearts too full to say anything else right now. www.caringbridges.org/visit/shelbygrover (http://www.caringbridges.org/visit/shelbygrover)

[rdd]

posted address wrong
www.caringbridge.org/visit/shelbygrover (http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/shelbygrover)

[Jeannie Jones]

rdd: healing prayers going out to Shelby and all your family. The pain in your hearts must go very deep. I can't help but think that your angel Shelby is serving some Divine purpose. There's so much we don't know or understand about life. Love walks with you.

[mtnviewsteve]

rrd,
Prayers of Healing Pure White LiGhT for Shelby and ALL family. Let Spirit wrap you in comfort and Peace.

[Jeannie Jones]

Originally posted by Becky Davis:
...Her [Ursula's] bloodwork has improved alot. The oncologist was pretty amazed..but she did decide to have a heavy duty chemo treatment... Don't know how I missed this part of your post, Becky, but sometimes my mind is kind of blurry. Frankly, I'm glad she decided to go ahead with the chemo. I know it has terrible side-effects, but can it be worse than the intense pain she was in? She sure is in my prayers. How's she doing?

And I hope this gorgeous, yummy weather has brought relief to your hip, which I expect was greatly stressed by your trip AND the cold weather then.

Wrapping you in warmth and love,

JJ

[Becky Davis]

Thanks Jeannie...with Ursula it is day to day. Haven't talked with Martha in a couple of days. I get the feeling things are not well, because the work has stopped on the little cottage.
I have honestly had so much going on, I feel guilty for not calling.
My hip is better, but having some spasms. When I see pics of Patt or think of Nafalia and Ursula...nah..honey it is nothing compared to the hell they have been through.
In other words, I could dance all night.
I love this weather. Wish every day could be like today.
Thank you Universe.

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:
Bec,
Still shining the "Pure White Healing LiGhT" on Ursula and rest of the family.
Blessings.
:cool:

[Becky Davis]

She is home and is doing great. She credits the chelation. Still is weak, but gaining a little weight back. Is keeping busy. She still is in a lot of pain, but takes as little pain pills as possible. Doesn't want to miss anything.

[DaBee]

This is such good news, Becky. Kudos to the chelation. Will it be an ongoing process for her? Did she have to go to a facility and be admitted for all of the treatments?
Thanks for the update. How are you doing?
love and light
deb

[DaBee]

Your mentioning of the Celestine Prophecy led me to this, MM12. Sounds intriguing, don'cha think, y'all?

Dear Deborah,

Thanks for your interest in the Celestine Community. We couldn't be more excited. We are using proprietary web software to create, we believe, a really fascinating way to connect all of us who envision a world of deeper spiritual experience together.

It will have the feel of a real community: landscapes, real buildings to enter, lecture halls where ideas are being discussed, benches to sit on and trees to sit under while pondering your path through the various places to explore, all punctuated by real synchronistic moments (courtesy of our random computer) built into every step you take.

We can't reveal all the secrets right now, but it will be a place of real community and discussion, where we can all stay up-to-spiritual-date on every evolution in society — news, science, developments in every career field, PSI, after-life studies, everything — as we participate in the evolution of the world. Also planned are weekly conferences with us (via telephone and internet) on the deeper meaning of Celestine consciousness. Conferences/retreats for members will also be organized regionally.

Stay tuned for more about the site to be emailed soon and ask your friends to get on the email list with you so you can be charter members together. They can send an email to community@celestinevision.com to subscribe.

Thanks for holding the vision,
James Redfield and Salle Merrill Redfield

www.celestinevision.com (http://www.celestinevision.com)
www.thecelestineprophecymovie.com (http://www.thecelestineprophecymovie.com)

[Becky Davis]

She's taking pills Dabe. Very little pain pills, instead smokes a little ;) for relief. She goes to two doctors. One is eight four and he is doing the chelation...homeopathic.

[DaBee]

I had shut down the computer for the night and took one last visit to the out of doors before going bedey-bye. A series of events happened and I just had to come back in, turn things back on and tell y'all 'bout it.
First, to somewhat picture my setting here, I live down in the valley. There's a pasture in front of me that goes down to a creek. On the sides and back of my place is where 2 mountains meet and I'm in kind of a bowl with trees and hills on 3 sides.
I walked out towards the back to be greeted by the full moon that had come up over the top of the trees. As I stood there and admired Luna, what looked like a shooting star streaked down from the moon to behind the trees. Just as it went behind the trees the "bowl" of tree tops flashed. Everything was very quiet at that moment and then the symphony of frogies picked up where it left off. There must be some distant lightning happening, but the synchronicity of these events left me breathless. I stood there a while then came back in the house because I wanted to post this. I had to reboot for some reason, but in the meantime I heard something outside and went out to hear 2 hoot owls talking to each other. Owl is my totem.
A couple of hours ago I had read this Daily Om and it stayed on my mind. After I had posted the piece on the Celestine Prophecy earlier, I realized that it felt really good to be back here and that I've missed the spiritual connection lately. It all spins together so well with what this Om has to say.
By the way........I'm paying attention now. ;)

April 12, 2006
Universal Messages
Signs
The universe can often relay messages to us through signs. Often, we are too busy to stop and consider what may or may not be a sign. We may ask the universe for guidance, yet fail to recognize the sign it sends us in response. Learning the subtle language of signs can help you interpret the guidance the universe sends your way. We all have been blessed with a connection that allows the universe to communicate directly with us. To be able to understand the information relayed over that connection, however, it is necessary that we learn to pay attention and know what to look for.

To see and correctly interpret a sign, you must open your heart and mind to the universe and invite its guidance into your life. Many of us are blind to the signs we receive because we expect angels or our spirit guides to speak to us in a booming voice and tell us exactly what we need to hear. But signs are usually of this earth and therefore easier to encounter. A song lodged in your mind or a number that seems to pop up everywhere you look after you've asked the universe for guidance can both be signs. Signs may come through the animal world, from strangers, or jump out of a book in the form of an insightful passage. A sign may be a direct answer to one of your questions. Other signs may point you in the right direction, warn of impending difficulties, or show you a different way. If you want the universe to send you a sign, tell it that you are ready and willing to accept its guidance.

Not everything you hear or see will be a sign. If you are receptive and patient, however, the signs you receive will become easier to recognize. It is important to listen to your intuition. A sign can mean many things to different people, and only you can decipher a sign's meaning is for you. As you practice reading the signs and following their guidance, the universe will send more of them your way.

love and light
deb

[Jeter]

What a perfect thing to read on this side of geekfest after neglecting it so. Loved your moment with 'luna' and being 'in the light' or 'in the zone'.
I went out on deck and howled at luna like I used to with my great danes. You could get them to howl and change notes and do howling tunes. My new dog,Courage, the cowardly dog, has no idea of what howling is all about.

Luna reflected off the river just like the bright, orange cumulus had, at last light.
We live in such a beautiful part of the world and are so truly blessed to be here at this moment.

[MotherMoon12]

I went out last night to look at the moon and smelled the empress trees and lilacs in bloom. Magical indeed.

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:
The moon summoned us ALL, at different times~~ for different types of reverence. Her orange-yellow glow~ rising just above the mountains, greeted me this morn, and for another day I am very thankful to the Great "SPIRIT" Mother. More pleasures in store for US ALL tonight and this weekend. Time to be Merry~~~
Blessed Be.
:cool:

[Becky Davis]

Luna knocked my socks off tonight. On the way from taking Leslie home, I topped a hill and there she was just sitting on top of a mountain.
I stopped my car just to look at her.

[DaBee]

I bet she winked at you, Becky. ;)

[Gaylord Wright]

When full, Luna almost always winks at me. That's why I almost always do this... ;) .

[DaBee]

Can I do that too?
Wink at you ;) ?

[MotherMoon12]

I think I'll moon the moon tonight.

[DaBee]

Mother, I think you own the Moon, you jes go'head an do wha'cha want.
I jes wanna know 1 thing when ya get done - does Luna blush? ;)

[PMilam]

Hi ya'll!

I'm doing so much better now.. there is not a single open place on my skin any more.. Doc says take it easy for another month.. that isn't hard to do. I don't have much juice.. I get started on something.. and poop out.. but.. I AM at least starting something!

I see the moon, the moon sees me, God bless the moon, and God bless me... and you.

[DaBee]

So good to hear, Patt. I imagine that your rest is much more comfortable now. Does this mean that you're taking a month break from the treatments or are you finished?
Continued healing light directed to you and yours.
love and light
deb

[PMilam]

As far as I know, I'm done.. they haven't mentioned any more. I'll see the oncologist on the 27th.

I cannot believe how much I am sleeping! I went to bed last night at 12:30.. was awake for an hour around 1pm then back to sleep til just minutes ago.. 4 pm.

Sheesh... my mantra is I'm happy.. laying here.. I'm happy.
What ever.. I'm happy.

Just call me Pollyanna... or Buddha!! I started "The 8 steps to Happiness" by Bhante Henepola Gunaratana. Too bad I can't stay awake long enough to read more!

[Gaylord Wright]

"Can I do that too?
Wink at you ?"

Uhhhhh huh deb,
I never look away from a wink!


"I think I'll moon the moon tonight." Mother

Naughty girl! I be jealous. If I did such, I would be singing, "..and I have seen my name at the top of the page."


As for you Missy Milam, your skin is still open. Wide open to life and looking like healing. Bless your pea-pickin' and soul pluckin' heart. (Patt, when was the last time I saw your face in person? Was it at Michael's Center St. last year?) Anyway, sleep tight, whenever it feels right Ginger.

To you three... ;) ;) ;)

[DaBee]

Sho-do-ka

Song of Realization


Yoka-daishi (d.713)

The minute you attain Buddha’s Zen, the six noble deeds and the ten thousand good actions are already complete within you. In your dream there are six paths, but when you awake, they will be reduced to nothingness. No sin, no happiness, no loss and no gain. Do not try to seek these things in Mind-Essence. For a long time you have not wiped the dust from your mirror. Now is the time for you to see its brilliance precisely.

Who thinks non-thinking and who recognizes non-existence? If it is really non-existence, you cannot think of it. Ask a robot whether it is happy or not. As long as you aim to become Buddha, no matter how you strive, you will never be one. Do not cling to the four elements. Drink and eat according to your true nature. Things are transient, therefore, they are in a state of emptiness. This is Buddha’s realization.

A true disciple of Buddha speaks the ultimate truth. If you do not agree with what I say, you are free to discuss it. You must remember, however, that Buddhism is concerned with the root of truth, not with the branches or leaves.

Most people do not recognize the mani-jewel, the gem of wisdom. It is hidden in the secret place of Tathagata awaiting discovery and attainment. The six senses and the six worlds interweave making life as it is. It is an illusion as a whole, yet nothing exists to be called illusion. The perfect light of this mani-jewel, the gem of wisdom, illuminates humanity. It has neither color nor form, nor has it non-color and non-form.

Clarify the five kinds of vision, and acquire the five powers. It is only possible through Zen meditation that goes beyond speculation. One can see the images in the mirror naturally. To hold the reflections of the moon on the water is impossible.

A Zen student should walk alone at all times. Those who have attained, tread the same road of Nirvana. Each of them is natural in manner, and clean and contented of heart. Since not one of them is concerned with special attraction, no one pays them much attention.

The followers of Buddha speak of their poverty. The simplicity of their living may be called poor, but not their Zen. A monk’s gown, torn and mended, shows the world his poverty; his Zen, unseen by others, is the treasure beyond all value. No matter how much it is used, the priceless treasure never deteriorates. It may be given freely to others who need it. The three bodies of Buddha and the four kinds of wisdom are completely contained within it.

The excellent student of Zen goes directly to the ultimate truth. The fair or good ones like to learn from others but have no steady faith. Once you strip off the tattered clothing of prejudice you will see your true self. How can you wander around in outward striving?



One who attains Zen must acquire its eloquence. Meditation and wisdom must have their full brilliance unclouded by an idea of emptiness. Such an accomplishment is not limited to the few. The Buddhas, countless as the sands of the Ganges, are all witness to this fact.

Zen students journey by land and sea, across rivers and over mountains. Visiting monasteries and receiving personal guidance from teachers. I also followed the Way, reaching So-kei, where I met my master and received Dharma. Now I know my true being has nothing to do with birth and death.

A Zen student walks in Zen and sits in Zen. Whether in speech and action, or silence and inaction, her body always dwells in peace. She smiles, facing the sword that takes her life. She keeps poise even at the moment of death, nor can drugs alter this calm.

Our great teacher, Sakyamuni, met Dipankara Buddha many millions of years ago, and accepted his Dharma. Ever since, he is master of Ksanti, perserverance, life after life.

People are born many times, so they die many times.

Life and death continue endlessly.

If you realize the true meaning of the unborn,

You will transcend both gladness and grief.



Taken from "Buddhism and Zen" Edited and Translated by Nyogen Senzaki and Ruth Stout McCandless 1953

*

The Sho-do-ka is often translated as the Song of Realization, and this older translation from 1953 is wonderful in that in the text there is commentary from Senzaki’s own instruction to his students. We stuck with the bare bones text so that you can have your own first insights, but the original commentary was added to assist understanding of the lines. Sho-do-ka is memorized in its entirely by students in China, Korea, and Japan, and they are often inspired during its recitation. There are newer translations that can be found, but there is something exquisite about the reading of this older translation.

As with many of the longer pieces, it is better broken down into smaller reflections to allow us closer to the heart of the teaching.



"The rain has stopped,

The clouds have drifted away,

And the weather is clear again.

If your heart is pure,

Then all things in your world are pure.

Abandon this fleeting world,

Abandon yourself,

Then the moon and flowers will guide you along the Way."

One Robe, One Bowl - The Zen Poetry of Ryokan

[PMilam]

I have a way to go.. I just love cool clothes. Nothing expensive or fancy.. just fanciful.. and/or colorful.

I can see clearly now, the rain is gone..

I did full on grocery shopping today, for the first time in at least 2 months.. maybe the whole year! It wore me out, but, it was very good to be doing something normal.

We went on our annual camp trip last week.. some of you might remember the saga of getting flooded in last year.. or.. was it year before?

5 days camped out.. I was so grateful that the wounds healed, and I could do it. They call me camp queen.. I'm pretty anal about getting it all set up, so that it's easy to visit and eat, without going through every box, etc... anyway.. Craig packed everything but my clothes and the food.. carried it all. Farar took some extra stuff for us, since we 'downgraded' from the Suburban to a Honda. The 'kids' took over, in fact, the coordinator of the whole thing passed the torch to Robin, and another friend her age. Many 'kids', nearing 30, and younger, have come more years than they are old! They attended as babies. I just love it. Watching my kids and their sig others.. they are now the age that Craig and I were when we began this whole kaboodle!

We had perfect weather, no uninvited drunks showed up.. and the invited ones kept their cool.

It was another wonderful Rites of Spring.. the 35th.


I saw the oncologist today. He comes to Bville once a month, so that sure makes it easier. Now.. I just carry on, be seen every three months "for a while".
It's been interesting, I must say, contemplating life and death.. and cancer. On one hand I want to live as tho today would be my last. On the other hand, I want to live as tho I have 20-30 more.

Being taken care of, watching others do all the work, lying on the couch when the grandkids want me to walk to the river.. it is a moving experience.

Right now, I'm still getting over the radiation, and used to the Aromasin, a fairly new drug that prevents breast cancer.. it's weird, not having breasts, and still having to be concerned about little patches of cells that may have escaped. And it's just flat out.. hghh.. weird not having breasts. The phony ones are irritating to wear, scoot up to my chin, and make me feel fake. I know that many women do not share my view, and I hope they do exactly what they feel best doing. It's that occasional double take. Mostly I don't think about it.. it's sad. I had very nice breasts, if I do say so myself! Now, the attention goes too easily to the belly, instead of the cleavage.

Well, I've just blathered on a while.. tit for tat!

It's good to be here.

Well.. I'm trying out Foxfire... and it doesn't have spell check.. or I'm too dense to find it. On safari, I hit Shift/Command/Colon and it popped up. help?

[annie]

Blather on sweety. I'll be listening.

[Jeannie Jones]

My gosh, I can't believe how long it's been since I've been here!!! Y'know, I got sooooo much joy from Diversity Weekend, but it sure knocked the pep right outa me! I'm just now feeling like I've probably recovered from it. I'm just not used to being around sooooo many people! It was just so darned wonderful, though!

Did my homework and got caught up on everybody, and really enjoyed y'all's moon talk. That was fun and sweet. Glad to see Gaylord and Jeter posting here, in the forum of peace, love, caring, and gratitude. Nice to read Mother Moon and Annie again, too, as well as those who post most often. smile.gif

Patt, I'm just so very happy for you! Very glad you don't have to endure any more treatments, and that your wounds are well-healed. And so very happy for you that you were able to attend your river retreat. What a blessing!

Love and Light and kisses to all,

Jeannie

[Gaylord Wright]

"Blather on sweety. I'll be listening." annie


Te moo Patt.... ;)

[Jeannie Jones]

Asking prayers and positive energy for OTR's surgery this Thursday. See "Fools" thread for more info.

[shuggie]

Yes, Patt, you did have an admirable set. I noticed them frequently but only after I was attracted to your wonderful face with that wide open smile.
I'm consoled that you are healing.
My Deb and I have traveled a simular path as yours. Neither of us can hardly remember that Time. Ism't that wonderful also?
Cheers to you and yours.
Hugs,

[Becky Davis]

OTR...hope you come through this with flying colors and you betcha, my prayers are with you.
Take good care of yourself and don't argue with the nurses. ;)

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:

Oneness Daily Newsletter
Let us be One

May all humanity be one, and we be one with them. And may we feel our kinship
now with all living things, as well: with the creatures of the land and sea and
sky, and feel our common bond with our Mother, the Earth we share together.

O Creative Spirit of Life, whom the people of the world call by many true
names, we give thanks this day for the wonder that is all around us: for the
human quest for meaning; for the poetry and myth of the human imagination; for
the bright stars in the night; for the joyful sound of voices uplifted in song;
for the company of friends; for the bonds of those we love.

We would be mindful, especially now, of the great pain still within our world:
the loneliness, the poverty, the hunger, the disease, the injustice that yet
remain. Just as in the solstice season, our globe swung back toward the LiGhT of
longer days, so, too, we pray, may human history once again swing out of
darkness and toward the light-- toward the
LiGhT of peace and justice, reason and compassion.

We join now in the hope that in the midst of all that besets us and our world,
we can yet be faithful to Life, and faithful to one another. The spirit of all
the celebrations we have commemorated this season-- and other celebrations the
world's people observe-- is the spirit of faith in the amazing possibilities
that Life always offers unto us: possibilities of new LiGhT, new life, new
freedom, new hope. May we plant the seeds of this hope deep within our souls this day. And through the winter yet before us, may we tend to these seeds, and nurture them, and care for them-- so that they, too, may come to flower like the
spring that already beckons-- come to flower in those blessings we offer back to
Life.
Namaste
Rev.Jeffrey Symynkywicz
:cool:

[Gaylord Wright]

"Take good care of yourself and don't argue with the nurses."

Yea right! OtR not being argumentive and I just heard shrimp whistling... ;)

[faithie]

I am thankful for my beautiful friends in Eureka that are helping Julie and I put together the fundraiser on May 21... here are just a few: Lany, for your friendship and support!! thank you for donating ink and paper to print posters and flyers. Hannah and Benji of Little Bread Co, for brainstorming with us, leading us to more wonderful people, for offering a place to lay our heads, for offering to feed the bands and so much more. Karen Fitzpatrick, for lending your ear, your support, your beautiful voice, and for writing about us in your Nightflying article. Dwayne of Pink Flamingo for giving us our first solid donation from a business in Eureka for the Silent Auction, and for giving me the courage to walk into another business to ask for help. Monda, of It's About Time, for understanding how nervous I was and making it all right and promising a basket of goodies for the Silent Auction. There are many more so I'll post again later. Last but not least, Julie, my friend, for understanding my need to raise money to find a cure for breast cancer and being there beside me every step of the way!!

[Jeannie Jones]

Welcome, Faithie! smile.gif Sounds like you've done a great job on the planning of your event, and lots of leg-work. Such a worthwhile cause. Thanks be to you, as well!

[Becky Davis]

Anybody hear our Memphis sister is doing? Hope you are okay OTR. And I did say those prayers for you. I am saying one right now that all is well. (And one for your nurses)

[faithie]

Oh my gosh, I was really tired last nite when I posted and I left out a very very important person, Ron Landis, for donating the use of Eureka Music Park to us to hold the Fundraiser. I'm so very grateful for Ron's generoisity!

Thanks Jeannie for the welcome! :)

[DaBee]

Just want to welcome all of the new Geekers out there. I know that some of you bee-bop through here wondering what we're all so grateful about. Probably we're grateful for just about everything, but especially living in, having lived in or wanting to live in Eureka.
Eureka is one of the little lighthouses in this big ol' world.
love and light to all
deb

[Gaylord Wright]

A little lighthouse...now that's a nice thought. ;)

[Becky Davis]

Sad news. Ursula is off with the angels. She left Saturday night.
Good news is that she is no longer in the tremendous pain. Martha and her son were with her. Each holding a hand. She didn't come into this world alone and she didn't leave it alone.

[mtnviewsteve]

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May Ursula~Martha and her son find "Heavenly Peace" and may sentiments go out to her family and friends~
Blessings of LiGhT
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[DaBee]

From what you've told us, Becky, Ursula left this element in the way she chose. Seems like when someone in our life goes beyond the veil, even someone that we weren't particularly close to, it leaves something like a hole in the fabric of life. It takes a while for that hole to mend, but through the process of letting go (grieving) it does get better. I think that especially when someone is particularly ill, knowing that there is no more pain or fear for that person to deal with helps in the process. Please tell Martha that I've always thought of her as a gracious and kind person. Her being a loyal friend all of the way through this with Ursula, reinforces my fond thoughts of her.
I hope all is well with you and your family, Becky. Is everyone settled in now?
Looks like I've missed the opportunity to go crystal digging in the cool of Spring. Will just have to wait until Fall.
love and light
deb

[Another Texan]

I realized yesterday that it has been 31 years since my father died. He had lung cancer that had metastasized to his brain. The last several weeks of his life he was unable to communicate and in what appeared to be severe pain. I remember lightly touching his forehead and the grimace he made. He was just 50 yrs old.

When I hear of someone in pain passing I think first of the relief to their suffering and next to the family and friends, that they may recognize that their loved one is no longer suffering.

Each person we know becomes a part of us and just because a person dies does not mean they aren't still with us. We have the memories and lessions learned, and the little things that remind us of those gone.

A departure from pain and suffering, in my mind, should be celebrated.

[Becky Davis]

I really love the way of thinking that I am a spirit having a human experience. Actually that is how I feel. Thanks for putting it into words Dabee.
AT, we never get too old to miss our parents do we? That was the first thing Martha said thanks for, that Ursula was out of that God awful pain.
Thank you for the kind words. People really do become a part of us. I see things every day that remind me of someone gone ahead.
Ursula's Celebration was Saturday night. And that is what they called it. A celebration.

I'm matchmaking. Got Martha fixed up with a blind date tomorrow. She'd kill me for saying so.
I checked him over pretty good. Then asked him if he was cheap. He looked so funny. I told him "I couldn't stand a cheap, stingy man and I wasn't about to introduce my friends to one."

Bet they go someplace nice. ;) (She deserves to have some fun now)

[DaBee]

This morning my d-i-l is having the hysterectomy. Since her parents have moved here from Georgia, we are all pulling together to coordinate the next 3 weeks to allow my son to spend optimal time with her while we care for the children alternately. I know she'll eventually feel so much better when it's all over and she's on the road to healing.
Asking for your focus on healing and ease.
love and light
deb

[mtnviewsteve]

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PURE WHITE HEALING LiGhT for your d-i-l and family. May comfort and peace be with you.
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[Becky Davis]

My thoughts and prayers are with her, Deb. And for you too.

[Becky Davis]

How's Crystal doing Deb?

[DaBee]

Surgery went as planned. Surgeon was glad of the decision to remove the ovaries as there were many cists. She had a bad reaction to the morphine last night, but looked much better this morning. Looks like she may come home tomorrow morning.
Thanks all for the positive light focus and prayers.
love and light
deb

[DaBee]

Healing With Hurt
Using Your Pain To Help Others

Pain is a fact of being and one that permeates all of our lives to some degree. Since the hurt we feel may be a part of the experiences that have touched us most deeply, we are often loathe to let it go. It is frequently easier to keep our pain at our sides, where it acts as a shield that shelters us from others and gives us an identity-that of victim-from which we can draw bitter strength. However, pain's universality can also empower us to use our hurt to help others heal. Since no pain is any greater or more profound than any other, what you feel can give you the ability to help bring about the recovery of individuals whose hurts are both similar to and vastly different from your own. You can channel your pain into transformative and healing love that aids you in helping individuals on a one-to-one basis and spreading a tide of curative energy throughout the world.

The capacity to heal others evolves naturally within those who are ready to disassociate themselves from their identity as victims. In fact, the simple decision to put aside the pain we have carried is what grants us the strength to redeem that pain through service. There are many ways to use the hurt you feel to help others. Your pain gives you a unique insight into the minds of people who have experienced trauma and heartache. You can draw from the wellspring of strength that allowed you to emerge on the other side of a painful experience and pass that strength to individuals still suffering from their wounds. You may be able to council individuals in need by showing them the coping methods that have helped you survive or simply by offering sympathy. A kinship can develop that allows you to relate more closely with those you are trying to aid and comfort.

Helping others can be a restorative experience that makes your own heart grow stronger. In channeling your pain into compassionate service and watching others successfully recover, you may feel a sense of euphoria that leads to increased feelings of self-worth and optimism. Your courageous decision to reach out to others can be the best way to declare to yourself and the world that your pain didn't defeat you, and in fact it helped you heal.

[DaBee]

OK, another cut and paste, but I liked what it had to say. I just wanna say that I miss hearing from you, NancyNafalia. Also wanna say that it sure is good to have you back, PattM.
love and light
deb

Back In Play
Reconnecting With Friends

Every person that passes through our lives makes a contribution to our life stories. There are those who play large roles and make deep impressions, but sometimes a brief special appearance before life takes them in another direction creates a meaningful connection. It is a rare gift when they suddenly reappear in our lives after a long absence.

Though the world may seem full of more people than we could ever know, we are often drawn to people with similar energy, which brings us together time and time again. On first meeting, the characters in our life stories may seem familiar. We may know each other from past lives or perhaps we merely recognize the energy of a kindred spirit. But when fate brings old friends back into our lives, there is always a reason. They may act as messengers, reminding us of a part of ourselves we have forgotten to nurture. They might appear to give us a chance to react in a new way to an old situation. They may even bring up unresolved issues so that we may complete them, giving us the chance to move forward on our life path. Whether old friends, previous romances, or once and future partners, their reappearance is more than mere chance. They may never know what they bring into our lives, but the renewed contact is a gift.

If this hasn't happened to you, maybe you are meant to initiate contact by seeking out old friends. If old friends come to mind or into your dreams, use their appearance as an excuse to get in touch. If an old song or movie reminds you of them, reach out to share the gift of renewed contact. Wherever you fall in the circle of connection and reconnection, be sure to look beyond the surprise of the moment to enjoy the deeper gift that this revelation brings.

[PMilam]

Thanks for the welcome home, DaBee!

I receive a daily email from an old friend, from the old country, that now lives in Nebraska. Sometimes a quick read and delete.. sometimes something that sticks to the wall, so to speak.. Today, as I was catching up here.. about spirit having a human experience, I thought this would be a good place to share Sue's email with you.

Ascent of the Soul

The idea, desire and methodology of the ascent of the soul has been a predominant, ever-present theme in the thinking of humanity. From the Egyptian Pyramid text of the Old Kingdom (2650 – 2152 BCE) we see some of the first writings where the sky is considered to be divine and the soul, after death, moving upwards towards a perfect, immortal life.

I fly from you, oh men,
I am not for the earth.
I am for the sky.
I have soared to the sky as a heaven.
I have kissed the sky as a falcon.
I am the essence of a god,
The son of a god.
Behold the faithful and loving Osiris
Has come as the stars of Orion, the Beautiful One
I have come that I may glorify Orion.
My soul is a star of gold
And with him
I will traverse the sky forever. (Pyramid text )


Thousands of years later, Plato (c. 427–c. 347 BC) attempts to describe the soul’s ascent in The Republic in which he suggests that we live in a cave but that there is a brighter light outside which he defines as the World Soul, a great collective concept to which we all aspire or seek. Later the neo-Platonist, Plotinus (c. 205 – 270) expands Plato's thinking by describing the soul in his Enneads when he talks of the moment of the heavens as being reflected in our own individual souls. He states that our personal souls have been captured and held down “by the clay it bears with it” while all the time “even in us the Spirit which dwells with the Soul does thus circle about the divinity. For since God is omnipresent, the Soul desiring perfect union must take the circular course: God is not stationed.” [Enneads, ii, 2]-visual astrology newsletter

Blessings from Sue

www.morningstarcenter.com (http://www.morningstarcenter.com)

[mtnviewsteve]

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"In Praise of the Goddess"


"I send out words in praise of the Goddess, from whom all worlds flow. Mystery of mysteries, this continual creation, like a fountain forever bubbling up from the Earth's darkness, she is a cup that is never empty.
Generous One, eternally giving gifts,
I pray to you, I praise you,
I remember you throughout my day."

- Ceisiwr Serith
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[DaBee]

An Invitation To Love smile.gif
Love and Light/deb-o-rah
Angel Meditation

Though your host of spirit guides encompasses many diverse beings, all of which willingly watch over you, meditating with angels can be a uniquely insightful experience. The angels stationed at your side are both powerful and knowledgeable-they possess a limitless understanding of your needs and desires, your strengths and weaknesses, and your purpose. However, angels take an active part in our lives only when invited to do so. Meditation allows you to make contact with your angels and lovingly request that they participate actively in your day-to-day life.

To begin, retreat to a solitary place where you won't be distracted by concerns. Incense and candlelight may aid you in achieving a meditative state but are not necessary. However, laying an image of an angel, angel statue, or item symbolizing your angels before you can focus your thoughts. Sit comfortably, breathe deeply, and let yourself relax. When you feel peaceful, invite your angels from the highest of light to sit with you as you meditate. Mentally repeat your request and reiterate that this time together is important to you. Then, in your mind's eye, visualize a bright-white light floating above you. As you breathe, draw this light first into the crown of your head and then into the whole of your physical self. Allow this light to spread through your arms and hands, your core, and your lower body. Repeat this integration of illumination with a violet light.

Once again, ask your angels to be with you. Let the stillness surrounding you enter your soul, and open your heart to your angel guides. If they wish to communicate a message, they will do so now. Allow them to wrap their wings around you and infuse you with their bountiful love. Breathe them in as you did the light. As the meditation draws to a close, you may feel a presence, fluttering wings, or billowing fabric, or you may see an angel in your mind's eye. Thank them for providing you with love and light, and being with you as you meditated. If you don't sense or feel anything, there is no cause for worry-you can be certain your angels are with you. Don't be surprised if you start to see signs throughout the day that your angels are near, perhaps a feather at your doorstep. As you practice this meditation, you will become increasingly adept at recognizing when your angels are near and sensing their presence.

[Jeannie Jones]

Wow! I can't believe I haven't been here in such a very long time! I guess in the occasional be-bop around the open forum, that I kind of forgot that the rest of the bbs. existed! Queer mind tricks! The Arbonne thread in the Classifieds hit me upside the head and reminded me that there was more to G'fest than the OF!

Y'know, Becky, I've been thinking of Ursula very strongly for about a week and a half or more. Don't know why. I AM glad that she's been lifted from her pain. God bless her and her devoted friends. That Ms. Martha continues to be quite a gal! Hope the date went well.

A warm, loving embrace to all,

Jeannie

[DaBee]

I don't get here much, either, Je Nannie (love your new name! smile.gif )
It still feels warm and inviting, though. I miss Nafalia and maybe she could say a word or 2 as it holds a special resonance for me.
Love you~~~~~love y'all.
love and light
deb-o-itsallaboutlove ;)

[Jeannie Jones]

It does feel like a comfy chair, doesn't it? I forgot to mention it to Nafalia today. I'll have to check with her tomorrow.

Does anyone else feel way...um...pulled down? Pushed down?

Love 'n stuff

JeNannio

[mtnviewsteve]

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~~~JeNannio,
if you are feeling pushed down/ pulled down~might be time to question some of the people, places or things that are affecting you and analyze their "real worth." You seemed "surprised" at the replies in the thread about Airborrne, seemed a little harsh didn't they? It's easier to be honest with those we don't know than the ones that we love.
I once got involved in a "plan' similar to the one you have become active in. I was zealous and wanted to share with the whole world, especially my friends. Wasn't long before that's all I had~the world~my friends seemed to avod me or no longer seemed friends. I had very honestly worn out my welcome because of my eagerness to enrich their lives. Took me awhile to figure it out. This may or maynot be what's affecting you.
In love & Blessings~
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[Jeannie Jones]

No, Steve, I think it has more to do with lack of sleep. Grabbing a few hours here, a few hours there over an extended period just doesn't seem to do the trick.

I'm not trying to cram anything down anyone's throat and hadn't felt that I was losing my friends. Maybe I am and didn't realize it. Strangers can be more honest with me than my friends? Then what kind of friends are they? My dermatologist actually stroked my arms and legs Monday, and told me my skin felt and looked wonderful. I hadn't said anything to him about my using Arbonne 'til after that. I didn't post that anywhere. Don't want to be pushy. Don't talk about it in social situations. What's a girl to do? Just not talk about it?

[Jeannie Jones]

"Nafalia reached earth again":

Gosh, can't believe how long I've been "out there"! I was sliding down a moonbeam and got lost. But I'm back! smile.gif

Where to start, with all that's been going on? Well, let's not go back, let's just start from this point. Been doing well, up until about 3-4 wks. ago. Then began to notice a change in my bm activity. Put off going to the doctor, thinking it was just a temporary thing.

Finally saw Dr. Yura a week ago Friday, because I was unable to go to the bathroom, and she did the little finger trick...you know the one, guys. Found that the rectal area was so tightly closed that she could not get a good examination, and found some bleeding.

Last Tuesday saw my radiation oncologist, and he had the same problem Dr. Yura had, as far as doing an exam. (Trying to put this in a delicate manner, so here goes...) Dr. Albritten did a rectal exam and found that the muscles were constricted to the point that he could barely do the manual exam, and when he did, it was very painful, and he found more blood.

Long story short, on Wed. the 23rd, at 7 AM, I am scheduled for the 2 scopes and a rectal dilation.

At the time I saw Dr. Albritten, the exam was very painful, and he was telling me some things and I can't remember all he said because I was doubled over. But do remember him saying that chemo and radiation can sometimes cause this to occur.

So he immediately contacted Dr. Weston, my gastro-enterologist, and they scheduled the scopes and the dilation on an emergency basis.

I had no idea how rectal dilation was done, and at the time, didn't really want to know, but when the nurse called me with the date and time, I mustered up my courage and asked her how this was done. Here is how the procedure goes: they insert a balloon into the rectum and fill it with water, then they pull the balloon down through the rectum, and that stretches the muscles back out. Sometimes they have to do that 2 or 3 times, but we're hoping for 1. But I'm closed up pretty tight.

When they do the scopes, they'll find out where the bleeding's coming from as well. Really don't know what to expect with these scopes and things, what they're going to find. Dr. Albritten feels sure there's no cancer, but as he says, you have to see it before you can be sure.

Now, I can't say that I'm actually looking forward to this :rolleyes: . I'm hoping the balloons don't have to be filled up TOO big!!! And this certainly is not what I remembwer as playing water balloons!!!

I'm just grateful they're not using helium, so at least I won't float away!!! (Trying to keep a sense of humor about all of this, folks!)

Sorry I've been so long away. Just been busy taking magic carpet rides, and moonbeam rides, and twirling around the stars, AND USING ARBONNE, (and LOVING it!--was saddened when I had to stop because it had ginseng in it, and because of my vertigo I can't do any stimulants, and since Arbonne uses only the finest quality products, the ginseng was absorbing through my skin and causing me to have more vertigo!!!---just can't have ANY fun with ANYthing any more!!! :eek: ) among other things.

I've also had to be on liquids and soft foods, and making my own smoothies out of soy ice cream, soy milk, and fresh fruit. My solid food has been Cream of Wheat.

Much has transpired since I took off to other galaxies, but can't remember all of it, so just wanted to get back in touch, and thanks, Deb, for asking for me.

Guess I will go for this time, and will keep you posted as to what takes place after Wednesday. And, as usual, you know...

Keep those cards and letters coming in, folks,

Nafalia

PS: Does anyone have any information about properties of the color coral, as I've felt very drawn to it, and my living room is full of coral...coral and turquoise...bright, bright turquoise. All the colors are real bright.

[mtnviewsteve]

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Yo~~Coral~someone gave me a book~"LOVE IS IN THE EARTH" and IT says~"Coral represents diplomacy and concurrence~t also is sad to quiet the emotions and to bring peace to within the self.
It facilitates intuition and visualization, and helps one to understand and to use thw qualities of the mystic;it can bring one into the communication with the past spiritual masters of this world and can expedite the transfer of knowledge.
It can be used to strengthen both the circulatory system and the bones of the body. It can be used to stimulate tissue regeneration and has been used to nourish the blood cells. It can also be used in the treatment of disorders of the spinal canal, the alimentary canal, the nervous sustem and the thalamus."

~~~ Wow~ I need some of that myself~~Hope this helps~~What color coral do you have??
Blessings of LiGhT~~
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[Jeannie Jones]

Hey Steve, it's Nafalia...

The color of coral I have is the bright pinkish orange coral, and I especially picked up on that part about the spinal canal, because I have so much trouble with it, and something about the mystic that was real resonant. Thanks, Steve...Gee, you're up late!!!