Board meeting

[Keljo]

Please...somebody...tell us about the executive session...is Mary gone?

[Sparkydog]

They have hired Mary McFadden to be the Manager and Rachel Fink to be the Assistant. Both were at the shelter today working. Mary Rein was at the shelter but I don't believe she is doing anything other then showing the ones that need to know the computer files and that kind of stuff. Soon maybe we won't need her VOLUNTEERing anymore.

[Zeek Taylor]

Mary McFadden and Rachael Fink are both compassionate animal lovers with great credentials. Mary Mcfadden has been an investigator of animal abuse and worked in vet offices. Rachael Fink is a vet tech and has worked in vet clinics. Rachael also runs a rescue operations of sorts giving needy and unwanted animals a loving home with her. They both are highly qualified, will be able to monitor health needs of animals, and will see that our furry friends are taken care of in every way possible. Great choices for shelter management and a big step forward in getting the shelter back on track.
I also learned that the yard sale at the Eureka store brought in close to $2,000 dollars the past two days!! Way to go! Things are looking brighter by the day.

[sweetness&light]

I am so glad to hear the news. Mary McFadden is very compassionate and was animal control officer at Berryville/Eureka for several years. At least, I think this is the same Mary.

What about this so called loan by Bush? Has anyone heard anything about it? Is there paperwork to verify?

[1954]

Although I am hoping that Mary McFadden will be the manager in the future, at this point she is the TENTATIVE manager, awaiting the outcome of the court hearing, whenever that is. She is indeed the same Mary who was the animal control officer and she was the very best one ever.

[belle]

Where does this leave the board? Minus two memebers since two were hired. Also does anyone know that Boyd was drawing disability while taking contract pay from GSHS. This is slighly illegal since you have to report your earnings.

[Sarah Moore]

Please see GSHS update thread.Thanks.

[1954]

BB was on two disabilities from the state of California....yes, during the time he was taking contract pay. Amazing the things he was and probably is getting by with.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

Speaking of taking care of those "fuzzy friends"......
I was at the shelter at 10:30 today and it stunk like a sewer!!! In the holding room were 8 puppies in filthy papers and all crying. The papers didn't get changed all day! Nice going, and the so called "tentive manager" was no where to be seen all day. It took most of the day to clean the back area and that still had a bad oder after it was supposedly cleaned? Took our former staff 3 hours to complete the cleaning and the place smelled good. Way to go!

[DaBee]

Marilyn Stockwell...
Did you clean up the holding room?
Are you still training the dogs?
There is no such word as "tentive".

[Becky Davis]

Yeah..what is your role as a volunteer? No one to sit in the front office and gossip with? Why didn't you roll up your shirt sleeves and pitch in? If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

[kf5wd]

The place was cleaned thoughly today and actually smelled better than it has in a long time. Even the office floor was moped for the first time in who knows when.
You are correct Becky in that Marilyn does not do any work at all and sits in the "conference room" and complains while volunteers do the cleaning.

[Grayfox]

Perhaps her talents would be better used elsewhere.
I'm sure that you all don't need any chair warmers who are just there to collect information or tell stories.

[Sparkydog]

I was at the shelter 3 times Sunday and 2 times today. My husband was there all day today working on repairing the shelfs that the cats sit on in the cat room. The shelter smelled good and looked good everytime I was there. There is alot to do and everyone is working very hard to get it done. I am proud of all the amzing people that are coming forward to help out.

[Sarah Moore]

Special thanks to Paul Kelly for installing beautiful new ceramic tile in several of the cat pens today to replace the worn out formica. Paul supplied all the material and volunteered his entire day. He plans to spend several more days there in the future to finish the rest of the pens. He is multi-talented and does beautiful work.

Also, a special thanks to Rachel Fink. After a thorough cleaning by the Kelly Family last week, the Yoanka Lighthouse was ready to be used properly again. Rachel moved several cats in today and it is wonderful to see them lying in the sun and playing with other cats. Thanks to great volunteers and staff, the "light" is back on in the lighthouse.

[Grayfox]

I'm so pleased that the animals are being so well taken care of, at last. Wish I lived closer so I could take my turn at cleaning and petting. You all are angels. I'm sure the animals think so too.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

I was training dogs, that is what I vol to do I did not vol to clean or anything else, my choice as to what I vol to do. I will no longer be there to obedience train the dogs as I refuse to work for a kill shelter, any of you who think all I did was to sit you are quite stupeid but than that isn't a surprise either, if you think that training is easy than jump in there and take over, as for the smell...the place stunk I know, i was there I also know of the condition those puppies were in and it wasn't good! They were left there, since you all think the current staff is doing so well I just let it go, after all, they just love those fuzzy animals, surely they wouldn't leave young puppies in filth!? HA! Now we know just how things will be going there for the animals.

[Grayfox]

stupeid?

I'm sure I'm not the only one who wonders when you found time to train.

[Becky Davis]

Glad you aren't trying to teach them to spell. Are your services wanted or needed?
I could volunteer to teach them to sew, but doubt they would need me for that. A volunteer does what one can do. If it is cleaning poop, then it's cleaning poop. Too bad you think you are above that.

[kf5wd]

Marilyn, why have you not trained Smith and Jones? They certainly could use training.

[becsflowers]

What are *we* "training" them to do? "Pet tricks"? or just "sit" "stay" ?

[kf5wd]

Good question.

[Sparkydog]

Hey everyone,
Wanted to put a line out there for some free ceramic tile. We have used what surplus we had on Monday and got 4 of the 11 stalls ledges complete in the cat adoption room, but need more tile. Does anyone have any unused ceramic tile in say 6 x6 or bigger. Can be differant colors not trying to make a interior deco statement with these. Give us an email and we can go from there.

Thanks

[Uncle Ogre]

What Marilyn did was basic obedience. Teach a dog to walk on a leash. Not to jump on people. How to sit. ( Don't think she can teach not to bark). Basically try to get a dog adoptable. Some dogs have never been on a leash. At a style show a few years ago, we saw that most dogs in our county had never seen stairs. They were frightened.

There are some other volunteers who might come forward now if Reins and the rest are gone.

Yes, Marilyn, you can choose what you volunteer to do but if the place was so bad, you could have helped clean. After all, you care about the dogs.Don't you?? Remember when you and Ann were going to evaluate the adoptability of certain dogs?? What would you have done with the ones that were not adoptable???

[White Bread]

"Don't think she can teach not to bark"

I think she has found a work-around for this.

[JET]

Could we have M Stockwell debarked? Just a question?

[1954]

Amazing how Ms.Stockwell could leave puppies IN the filth if she cares so much. Puppies need to have their puppies changes multiple times a day so I hope that will be happening. Another thing I hope is that unlike recent happenings, throw up and such will be cleaned up at the time it is first seen and someone walks by. I mentioned this to one of the workers at one point several months ago and worker said "It is not time to clean yet." I do know for sure that Tina, Roberta, etc. kept on top of that.

[1954]

That should be PAPERS changed multiple times a day in previous post.

[Sarah Moore]

Originally posted by 1954:
Puppies need to have their puppies changes multiple times a day so I hope that will be happening. Excellent observation,1954. The pups we have in the shelter are about 6 weeks old, I believe. They are adorable eating & pooping machines at that age. The papers need to be, and are being changed several times a day.

[Becky Davis]

When I have kitten pooping machines, I found it easier to lay out old towels. Then I shake them and throw them in bleach water and wash them. Puppies are a different thing though, but you might try it. Keeps their little feeties dry.

[Flaherty]

Did you actually leave the puppies in the "filth" you say you found them in? Shame on you Marilyn!!!!! It's your attitude that smells! Why don't you just stay home on Holiday Island with all your poor dogs who can no longer bark?
Why didn't you just train them? Oh Do you have too many? Have to keep them silent? Yes Holiday Island is a lovely place to live! Stay home will you please!! Deni Warner

[Marilyn Stockwell]

Denie you are a perfect boob! My dogs are trained to do just what I want them to do. I saw several `workers' sitting in the front desk area so thought they would take care of the puppies as they were in charge, not me and nasty as those folks were i sure didn't want to step on anyones' toes. Day before yesterday Mary M jumped all over Mary R over placing a 5 week old kitten!!! Mary M wanted to adopt it out saying we need to get rid of the animals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mary R was smart enough and cares enough about the animals to try to explain that the kitten was to young at 5 wks. It hadn't had any shots and couldn't have a shot untill it was 8 wks old! THerefore it is unsafe for the animal to be let go. (By the way, that is a state law). So.................who realy cares about the animals??? Way to go folks!

[Old Thing]

Down, Marilyn, bad girl! And no one said speak.

[1954]

I believe the kittens were rather skinny and Mary Mc thought perhaps they might be better in homes at this point than not getting proper nutrition while waiting for their shots. As I understand it, kitten food had to be bought for them. I did question, before I heard the reason,for the kittens being adopted out so young.

[kf5wd]

The kittens in question came in on 10-18 at 6 wks. Yesterday they would have been 8 wks, plenty old enough to be adopted. When you have a caring person wanting to adopt and they meet established criteria, then adopt. Otherwise you may have missed the only chance that animal would have for a home. The longer they stay in the shelter, the greater chance for them to contract something and their adoptability diminishes.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

That is a bunch of hooey! There was plenty of food there for those kittens! Mary would NEVER allow any animal to go without!! We have cat food. A 5 week old kitten still needs the companionship of it's litter mates, there is no excuse except for bad judgement, I shudder to think of how those poor animals will sufffer at the hands of new staff, so far they are off to a bad start.

[kf5wd]

Mary M's concern was not that they did not have food but that it was not kitten food and was not moistened.

[Uncle Ogre]

Marilyn. The more you talk, the more you remove doubt as to your credibility about anything.
Keep talking, more readers are finally figuring you out.

[DaBee]

I think that most of us got this whole MS thing figured out a long time ago. For a while it looked like a smart move to just let her spout off. Now, it's past being entertaining. I'm surprised that someone with such a negative attitude towards everyone would even want to keep coming back. Especially one that is such a boob - spelled backwards.

[Becky Davis]

Obviously through your own admission, Mary doesn't know about cats...you know even less. They have been neglected for months, so quit the holier than thou routine.
This is absolutely my last response to you Marilyn. It's a total waste of time and energy.
It is obvious you are not there for the sake of the animals. You are there to spy and demean. Why they keep letting you come back is a mystery to me.

[1954]

SUFFER at the hands of the NEW staff???? A manager who doesn't even buy kitten food for kittens? And doesn't even know to moisten the cat food that is available for the kittens? And we hear there was a young person hired who professes not to like animals? Yep, that old staff is terrific. (John excepted....but he needs some teaching)

[Marilyn Stockwell]

The kittens in question were 5 weeks old. Not 8, somehow you got duped. as for not going out to the shelter you're right, you get your wish, no more obedience training for the dogs I refuse to work with a kill shelter. Too bad for the dogs but you folks caused it. Besides you didn't want me there anyway. Who will be vol to train dogs now? John is pretty good at it, maybe a bunch of you could go out and let him train you so you could go out there every mon, wends, and fri? The dogs loved their workouts and looked forward to couch time in the office with occasional treats. Just one more extra the poor dogs will loose.

[Sparkydog]

Marilyn you crack me up. One thing my mother taught me was that NO ONE IS IRREPLACEABLE. This always made me be a better employee and better person. I think I would do her memory proud. You are not the only dog obediance trainer out there. Rest assured the board and new staff at the shelter will find a trainer to do what is needed to help the dogs become more adoptable.

[waxwing]

Originally posted by Marilyn Stockwell:
The dogs loved their workouts and looked forward to couch time in the office with occasional treats.Yes, I heard you let dogs you are training sit on the shelter's couch. I thought surely this couldn't be, but now you confirmed it with your own words! What kind of trainer teaches dogs to get up on the furniture? Is this obedience training? I would never want to adopt a dog that has been allowed to do this. Once allowed it is near impossible to break that habit. It is up to the prospective owner to let the dog on the couch. Also, I tried to get some of the shelter dogs that you had supposedly "obedience trained" to sit on command and got no responses.

[kf5wd]

"The dogs loved their workouts and looked forward to couch time in the office with occasional treats"
Treats were used as an excuse before for the dogs having diarrhea.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

The treats were dog treats, kibble.

If you couldn't get the dogs to sit than I guess they just plain don't like you as they sure did sit for me. All our dogs already love the couch and I don't know of anyone who keeps their dogs off the furniture unless of coarse they aren't true dog lovers. As for training, the dogs not only sit but they lie down, they stay in place weather on a sit or down and they come on call and sit in front. Just shows how inept you are with dogs.

[Lany Ballance]

Originally posted by Marilyn Stockwell:
... I don't know of anyone who keeps their dogs off the furniture unless of coarse they aren't true dog lovers. ... Ms. Stockwell, I've tried to stay out of this fiasco, but with that statement you crossed the line big time. Shame on you! In my opinion, you owe a big apology to many true dog lovers you have just offended.

We're waiting.

[Becky Davis]

Lany, I have two rescue dogs, I have had for several years and they never are allowed on my couch. They have their own beds and are quite happy with the arrangement. They won't believe you if you tell them I don't love them.
I rather have a dog that has never been trained than a poorly trained one.

[b lake lady]

OK. I have to ask. Does anyone know this Marilyn personally? Her posts are increasingly outlandish and irrational. She contradicts herself repeatedly. Her spelling ability varies from post to post as does her grammar. Why is she still involved at the shelter?

[DaBee]

....and why is she still involved with Geekfest?

[b lake lady]

Three AMENS. My dogs aren't allowed on my bed. They have their own beds and are very protective of them.
To say that I (or anyone) can't love our pets because we don't allow them on the furniture is the height of ignorance. I don't want to ask about your credentials that qualify you as a "trainer" because some people are truly educated beyond their intelligence and you may be one of those.
I could just go on and on....truly spit fire, but I'm wasting precious energy.

[kf5wd]

"The kittens in question were 5 weeks old. Not 8, somehow you got duped."
It is so easy to show how ill informed or stupid Marilyn is. The photo below of the 10-24-05 printout http://www2.arkansas.net/~krlb3028/moneypenny.jpg shows the kitten in question, Moneypenny to have been 6 wks old when admitted on 10-18. She was adopted on the 10-31 How did she get to be only 5 wks old? Who was duped?

[Kaye Miller]

Please, people, give it a rest.

[Sparkydog]

Marilyn,
Your statement is so way off. Unless you have walked in someones shoes you have no right to say they are not dog lovers if they don't let their dogs on their couch.
I love my dogs, I paid over 4000.00 for my living room set. I don't let my dogs on the couch because I want the set to last as long as possible (my husband doens't like to spend lots of money)and I don't reelly like to sit on my couch laying in dog hair. This is why I don't allow the dogs on my furniture not because I don't love them.

[b lake lady]

Originally posted by Kaye Miller:
Please, people, give it a rest. Sometimes something just trips my trigger and I feel compelled to reply, as I'm sure is true of many others.
Marilyn has elicited my first and last response. But if we "ignore" her will she go away?

[DaBee]

i agree
the end

[BIGDOG]

IGNORE IT AND IT WILL GO AWAY!

[sweetness&light]

Just shows how inept you are with dogs.No, actually, it shows how inept you are with dogs. If you were a decent trainer, those dogs would all obey commands taught whether they liked the person giving the command or not.

Another point to prove your ineptness as a trainer; you couldn't train your own dogs not to bark, so you had them surgically debarked.

There are demos on Animal Planet and Discovery that show real dog trainers taking dogs off the street and socializing them, retraining them humanely not to dig, bark, act aggressively. "Dog Whisperer" comes to mind. I doubt he'd go along with letting the dogs up on the couch, either. As he says, most dog problems are because the owners place too many human characteristics on the dogs instead of letting them be dogs.

I am one of those people, however, my dogs never get on the couch.

[Old Thing]

Dixie Magirl, when will the Eureka store begin taking donations? What will be accepted?

[rdd]

ok - so I quess I am a really bad pet owner because I do not allow my 50 lb long pedegree, expensive, long hair border collies on my couch - but i do allow my short haired declawed rescued from a box outside Walmart alley tomcat on the couch, on the bed, pretty much any where he wants to go, have even been known to tell people to get out of his chair when he sits in front of it and wails for them to get up and they don't respect his little wishes. The border collies are actually very respectfully of the kitty and do not even try to get on the furnitue. They are very respectful to us their owners and we are all very respectful to our owner - the cat. My point is, you can love all your animals but train them to what meets your needs and suits your family. AT our house the saying is "if the cat aint happy aint nobody happy".

[Becky Davis]

:D

[Marilyn Stockwell]

You must be right!? After all this time as a trainer and having titled more dogs than you could count I must not know what I'm doing. Uh...huh.

[Lany Ballance]

Ms. Stockwell, it would have been nice if you would have had the common decency to apologize to those of us you offended. I'm no longer waiting for that to happen; I understand now how you operate.

May your life bring to you all you deserve. As ye sow, so shall ye reap.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

Talk about apoligizing!?????You are the nastiest bunch of people I have EVER encountered!!! You find no good in ANYTHING except youre own narrow view of things, no point arguing with any of you it just aint worth the bother. I have a simple challange, one of you meet me at the shelter, pick out a dog to train. I'll do the same and we'll see who gets what done.

[Lany Ballance]

Originally posted by Marilyn Stockwell:
Talk about apoligizing!?????You are the nastiest bunch of people I have EVER encountered!!! You find no good in ANYTHING except youre own narrow view of things, no point arguing with any of you it just aint worth the bother. I have a simple challange, one of you meet me at the shelter, pick out a dog to train. I'll do the same and we'll see who gets what done. Ms. Stockwell, I find a lot of good in a lot of things. You offended me above, and I don't find it good. In fact, I don't appreciate it at all.

I'd be willing put my own furchild up against your whole pack any time, and I'd be willing to place a substantial wager as to who would be the most well trained and best behaved of the lot. How's that for a challenge? Are you up for it?

[Uncle Ogre]

Just because you have had and sold a lot of dogs really does not make you any kind of expert.
How many readers notice that Marilyn doesn't want to be part of a shelter that "kills"??
Remember, she was on the board a few years ago. It was not a no kill shelter then...You need to have her train some dogs while you watch.

[Uncle Ogre]

Notice how she never answered the question as to what she would do with dogs that were not fit for adoption??

[pollym]

I don't know who Ms. Stockwell is or the level of her abilities....but I must admit her rants have inspired me to ask, if the shelter is so unpleasant and you have no intention of helping, for fear of stepping on someone's toes, why do you spend all day there? Also if everyone posted on this message board is sooo.... stupid and hateful and you already "know everything" why are you wasting your time associating with such dastardly people as we.....I'm sure, with your superior skills, you must be in high demand and can find a more profitable way to spend your time.

[Grayfox]

Okay pollym, quick update here. Marilyn's main job seemed to be sitting in the office and eavesdropping on ever conversation that took place. She apparently believes every word that the old board tells her. I think most of it is made up as they go along. When you compare what Marilyn says to what everyone ELSE says, you wouldn't even realize you're on the same conversation.
Hope this helps you out.

[pollym]

Thanks for the update Grayfox

[Uncle Ogre]

Welcome,pollym. As you can see, you don't get answers to questions from any of the former board or Stockwell. If you did get answers, most would be lies, anyhow. The people in place now will answer your questions. Hope you have read all the posts that led up to the change-over.

In one year, the former board almost destroyed 30 years of good will and good deeds. It will never be perfect. You cannot make all the people happy no matter what. These new board members are giving it a very good try and with the support they are now getting, should do extremely well...

[pollym]

Hi Uncle ........have spent the last 24 trying to catch up on previous postings.....what a mess........I have a question for the "Previous Board." If there really are hundreds of members who object to the "New Board"....why haven't THEY stepped forward to challenge the election? It seems to me the "Old Board" has neither a leg or a vote to stand on....

[Keljo]

I repeat my question, which had nothing to do with Marilyn Stockwell; is Mary Rein gone?
I want to come adopt a kitten.

[Sparkydog]

Keljo,

If you go to the shelter you will find Mary McFadden there or Rachel Fink along with John and Linda there. There was some really cute kittens there Sunday and Monday, plus some great grown up adult cats that are just adorable. Go on up and get you a fur friend... you won't encounter Mary Rein there.

[Sarah Moore]

Sparkydog is right. Feel free to drop by the shelter anytime and you will find friendly staff and volunteers that will be happy to show you the kittens. I also would like to encourage people to spend some time visiting with the cats. There are some really beautiful and sweet cats in the cat room and the lighthouse that would love to be petted or taken home. Same thing goes for the dogs. There are some great ones there that would love some attention... or a ride home.

[kf5wd]

Keljo

Just heard that all the remaining kittens were adopted yesterday. Hope you were able to get one. If not, there will always be more and as Sarah pointed out, there are plenty of lovable cats that would appreciate a permanent home.

[Keljo]

ALL the remaining kittens have been adopted?! That's fantastic! No, I didn't get one, but I'll be in soon to find another sweetie.

[Old Thing]

So...there are no baby kittens left, but some cute, pretty, still-kittens left...and they love to be petted.

[Becky Davis]

Does anyone know if those self cleaning litter boxes work and are worth the money? Cat lovers?

[grannis]

yes, the self-cleaners work, however, probably not for more than 2 cats.
may be worth the money, you still need to empty the insert.
sometimes the clumpable gets stuck when it is cycling, but, i wouldn't mind having one.
unfortunately my "pride" is too large.

[becsflowers]

I have a sifting litter box, (non electric and about 15-19 bucks at PetSmart) which is basically a stack of 3 trays, the top one is a mesh that when you lift it up, the litter sifts through the holes and the clumps remain in the sifter tray to dump. The next two are plain trays with no holes. You take the bottom pan, which is the bottom one on the stack, and put the empty sifter tray on top of that, then you take the tray with the freshly sifted litter in it and pour on top of the sifter tray. Then you place the now empty tray on the bottom to use again the next cycle.
That sounds confusing, but it works like a charm.
Also checked out those litter disposal units that look like "diaper genis"... those would not work for me- my ONE cat poops and pees enough to fill that in 3 days!!!! I like Fresh Step litter, it clumps up SO nice and my house doesn't stink like cat poop at ALL. After we "sift" the litter, I just replace enough back in the pan to make up for what gets clumped, and that brand has been the less wasteful brand I ever used. My friends up in Kansas work at the cat litter plant, and one of their perks is that they get a case of 4 big jugs of cat litter free per month if they want. My friends always give us cat litter when we go up there. (Tidy Cat clumpable) but I like the Fresh Step better. Deodorizes much better. Every month or so, I discard the whole box, and start over fresh, even though it doesn't smell, just cuz I feel it is more sanitary for my cat's health. My cat is one fat, happy, sassy, li'l puss. AND, she likes to watch TV!!!! CNN, with the traveling news tape that moves across the bottom of the screen is her favorite- she turns her head back and forth watching it, and when she walks around to the side of the TV to see where it goes, she's REALLY funny!!!!

After the dog decided to "snack out" on some cat p!$$ pancakes and worm cookies, we ended up putting the litter box into one of my famously home made rubbermaid totes that I cut a door into to make her cat house when she had babies. This ended all the frustration with the dog's weird "cravings", because there really IS something to the old saying, "out of sight, out of mind"!

Have you EVER tried to get clumping cat litter out of the roof of the dog's mouth?!? It's like having a KID with bubblegum in their hair. THEN I had to brush the dog's teeth. Normally this dog would have gone ape, but THAT day she just sat there patiently with her mouth open and let mama wipe it out! I called the vet immediately, because I figured it was the closest thing to "Poison Hotline" for pets... They had a good laugh out of it!

All this while the bird is over in the corner singing the theme song from Law & Order. I SWEAR. HOW did I end UP with all these "pets"? LMAO!!!!

[Grayfox]

Does the bird have an extensive repetoire or is L&O pretty much it? :rolleyes:

[White Bread]

becsflowers- I'm with you on the clumping cat litter thing. My littlest dog like a "tootsie roll" once in a while and that stuff is the worst. We're going back to regular clay tomorrow.

And if your bird is still awake, tell him the latest joke on the internet:

I think I have avian flu. Headache, congestion and a terrible urge to crap on your windshield.

[becsflowers]

Directions for a cat igloo-
get a Rubbermaid (Or one of the Sterlite cheap immitations) tote. Put the lid on it and turn it upside down. Mark an opening about 6" tall and 6" wide at one of the long ends, at floor level. It should look like an upside down "U" shape. Cut it out with a keyhole saw or heavy duty craft snips; this is NOT a picnic craft material to cut. Maybe an electric jig saw would work; I dunno, I don't have one so I just use what I got. A serrated steak knife helped start the cut for me. When you get the door cut, just place the litter box on the tote lid and place the tote box portion upside down over the litter box and snap it into the lid. Voila! A "hidden" and much private cat privy! And the sifting litter box fits it exactly.The weight of the litter box makes unsnapping the top off for easy access for cleaning. these totes can be bought for WAY less than something for that purpose at the pet store, and make fantastic gifts for your cat! Or your friends with cats! Paint little mice all over it, or decorate it however you please.
Then, take the $85 bucks you,ve saved from buying a non electric pan AND an igloo and buy yourself some new cat pajammas. (I just bought some cat printed fleece to make some cat jammies!)

[becsflowers]

Originally posted by Grayfox:
Does the bird have an extensive repetoire or is L&O pretty much it? :rolleyes: L&O is just the LATEST one. He's 16 years old and has been at this ever since. The first one was whistling the theme song from the OLD Andy Griffith reruns. the 2nd one was whistling "We're in the Army now".
The Disney song, "We are Siamese if you please/ we are siamese if you don't please"
And other popular TV and movie hits!
(And, if you act before midnight *tonite*, we'll send you FREE, Bucky's hit songs from the hit musical "OKLAHOMA"!!!!)

[Grayfox]

Does your cat like to wear them?

[becsflowers]

No, they're for ME!

[Grayfox]

I kinda figured that but I wanted to be sure. I like to be clear on these things.

[Jhawkr]

WOW Becs, the same cat toilet I rigged up! I had to introduce my seven year old cat to a 'box du toilette' for the first time this summer. He really understood what was going on the first time I set him in the litter pan and closed him in a bedroom. I added the housing over the pan the next day.

Within three days I had the new pet door installed and moved the cat box outside. Later on I noticed the cat apparently enjoyed the privacy and has continued to use the litter box out in the yard. It's kinda nice, not having cat doodles in unexpected places. I have two leetle dogs that occassionally crave cat worms & pancakes & will hunt for them out in the yard, not a problem any longer.

I've been using a cat litter made of compressed pine pellets which turns into a sawdust-like texture over time. It contains the poopie odors real well. When you're ready to dispose of it, scatter it (after you've removed the lumps}on a spot needing some dirt. If you're real ambitious you can stir in some leaves or dirt. Even if you just scatter it out, it is absorbed into the ground real fast. This is what's recommended on the bag. I get it at, where else, Walmart.

And on a COMPLETELY unrelated note~

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BECS!!!!!!! You are the cat's meow! Want to see pictures of ya in your new cat jammies. LOL!

[Southwindcome]

It's a good sign to see this thread hijacked by happy people writing about their animals and nice people wondering about adopting animals. Such a wonderful change from 2 months ago. I was at the shelter yesterday. It's a great place staffed with dedicated animal lovers. If you've been holding off on visiting until things settled down, go visit. Things have settled down. The only difficult part is leaving without a new dog.

[Dixie]

I LOVE my electric litter box. It works great and since my dog, Wiley, also likes "poopsicles" it gets them out of the litter box before he can snack on them. Premium cat litter works much better in it than the store brand, but you can go a month before totally changing the litter. And there is never a cat smell in the house. Don't believe the instructions; you just take the container out and dump it when it's full then replace it. I only change the container every couple of months.

[Ray Swallow]

Coming 110 good recipies for cat....

Braized cat with plum sauce
Slow cooked cat with Fennel


Just kiddding

Also 101 uses for a dead cat.

Make great door stops
Door mat..to wipe feet

Double kidding....I really like cats....A little tough if cooked fast.

OK_OK enought...

[Kaye Miller]

You know, there might be a new diet book in this thread somewhere!

Step one: Read this phamplet before each meal.

Breakfast anyone??


(sorry, the devil made me do it ;) )

[Grayfox]

You know, the sad part is that many of us probably weren't even grossed out. I love cats, and don't plan to eat one, but I think the posts are funny as heck.
I can't have cat because my husband and son are allergic but I have one of those with batteries and he purrs when I rub him and meows, so that's okay. No litter boxes or fishy smelling food to contend with either.

[Kaye Miller]

No, the sad thing is if we talked about our kids/grandkids in this manner, everyone would be grossed out! LOL

I mean no ill will. I have truly been interested in what is going on at the shelter even though I do not feel the need for an animal in my life right now.

My idea of the perfect pet is the great big stuffed dog at the Razorback Gift Shop. That dog has more personality than most people! And, I love his hat.

[Grayfox]

Kaye, send someone to take his picture! I'd love to meet him.
I am so pleased that the animals at the shelter are getting such spiffy housing and lots of people who are concerned about them. I'll bet that they are happier too.
And about those kids. One of my girlfriends used to say that if she'd known how much trouble that kids were she would have put hers in a sack and dropped them from a bridge. Some people were horrified. Those of us who knew how much she did for her kids would laugh ourselves sick.

[Kaye Miller]

It is a huge Great Dane with a Razorback straw hat on. What a dog!! Probably sits close to 3' tall. I would have to add a red and white bandana around it's neck.

I do wish I could get a picture to you, but don't know who to ask.

[Uncle Ogre]

We had to put a gate so the dogs can't get to the cat room. The first time we knew about doggie snacks was when we were walking downa horse trail. Anyone need a picture?
Went to the Vets to see if dog would get sick. He said no and warned us about worse to come. If you can find a way to stop all dogs from eating nasties, you could probably make a fortune.
Did anyone see the episode on Mythbuster's where they tested a dog's tongue against a human tongue? Tested for bacteria with culture containers.
Dog's tongue was less germy than the man's.

So happy for the way our shelter is running. And the doggie shop is getting cleaned out. Making room for some new items.

[kf5wd]

The Shelter Light House floor is uninsulated and the vinyl tile is very cold even though the room is heated. Linda Winters donated some nice cat beds she had purchased at Sams and put them on a blanket on the floor today. Within less than 1/2 hour all were occupied by cats all curled up snuggly.
We are now looking for help in applying insulation to the floor which is easily accessable since the floor is about five feet off the ground. Anyone having access to enough batting to insulate about 150 sq.ft. please call or e-mail me.
Thanks for caring.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

Hey folks, I've been told some very bad things re the new shelter workers etc. Now...I wasn't there myself but......I've heard it from 2 seperate sources one was from a young lady who walked out due to the goings on. I'll tell you what I've been told and you can just check it out for yourselves.
1) Gracie, the momma dog that had 8 puppies happens to have been diagnosed with ringworm, she was found outside in a pen with 4 NEW PUPPIES!!!!! The reason she was put out was because she "barks to much", If this truly IS ringworm than the 4 puppies will certianly get it too.
2)
Gracie's 8 week old puppies, 6 I think; were all left out in an outdoor pen during the cold and rain!! These puuppies supposedly are not even innoculated as yet, or weren't at the time; when the staff person found them she balled out those in charge and brought them in to dry off, there had been no blanket or tarp over the pen and they were soaked!!! The reason given ? They stunk to much inside!? Isn't that part of the job to keep them clean? They never stunk when I was there. Staff has also reduced their feeding to one time a day when anyone who knows anything at all about puppies knows they need at least 3 feedings a day at this age!
3) Jones and Smith have been put together in the same run, both these dogs were seperated before as they fight constantly Smith being the dominent one, This I saw for myself when i wwas going out there!
4) There are now about 20 cats in the light house and some one put a cat in there that had an activ eye infection and now they all have the runny eyes.
5) a large dog was put in with a smaller dog both males and both had agressive issues in the past.
If all this is true....and I believe it is Please tell me how this behavior is helping the animals?? Oh, and 6... I underatand a litter of puppies or kittens forgot which; were innoculated at 4 weeks of age?? That is doing nothing to protect them but instead lowers the natural immunity they had. Please check this out it sounds real bad, the person who told me this was extremely upset and had as a result of all this walked off the job and is now working for even less wages so I believe it is true, she had no reason to lie about this situation and surely wouldn't have wanted to loose her higher income just for nothing.


Another thing I'd like to know how much the so called "new manager and her assistant are earning since that is a matter of public record and I'm a member I'd just like to know.

[Sarah Moore]

Fact: All of Gracie's puppies have been adopted. The last one left nearly a week ago.
Fact: Jones was adopted nearly two weeks ago and is doing great at his new home.
Fact: All of the kittens were innoculated at 8 weeks old, at the time they were adopted.
Fact: The animals and the staff love to have visitors at the shelter. Please drop by any time ;)

[Grayfox]

Thanks Sarah. It's always good to hear from someone who knows.
Is Gracie the lady who was malnourished?

[BIGDOG]

We new better than the "hear say" crap Marilyn is spouting, she needs to take her "hear say" and crawl back in the hole that she crawled out of.

[kf5wd]

Yes, Gracie came in way under nurished but looks great now.

[BRIGHT1]

Keep up the good work folks, the shelter is really begining to turn around.(For the Better)MS

[Grayfox]

Ken, I'd like to see her. If you take pictures will you post one or email me one?
I'm so pleased that she's healthy now.
Bigdog, all slugs slither out from under their rocks occasionally.

[Shimaka]

Ohmy, I've tried for months to stay out of this continuing saga, not that I didn't have an opinion, or a side, but I just couldn't see being one more voice saying the same things others were saying. But now, well, Marilyn, you've done gone and p*ssed me off more than you ever have before so I feel compelled to jump in and say a few things that have been on my mind.

One, Deni (note the spelling) Warner is NOT a boob, whatever you happen to think a boob is. Far as I know, she HAS two of them, but I haven't checked closely so you'll have to ask her about that yourself. However, whatever she is, she is NOT a boob, or any synonym you might find for that word. She happens to be my next-door neighbor, and has been for four years now. No one knows what kind of a person you really are better than your neighbors.

Deni, and her hubby, Gary, are two of the most compassionate animal lovers I've ever known. They have more cats than I can count, and there is never not enough room for another if it needs a home. So, I'd say, Ms. Marilyn Stockwell, she knows one h*ll of a lot more about kitties and cats than you do, and it shows in your postings. She also has two dogs, the second one an adoptee who couldn't find a home and was brought home covered in sh*t from head to toe, but that didn't stop Deni from bathing him in the sink and lovingly integrating him into her family. I've watched her foster other animals who needed some fine tuning around the edges before they could be adoptable - all lovingly and without complaint. I have to agree with Deb. You're the boob, spelled backwards.

Just because you happen to be more inclined toward dogs because you are a dog trainer doesn't give you an excuse for not being thoroughly well versed in everything CAT simply by virtue of your former position on the BOD. Talk about disgusting, and stupid, and smelling bad, not to mention spelling bad! If I were completely non-committal on this issue, and didn't already know which side I'd come down on if, for no other reason, than knowing that Zeek Taylor was very involved in heading up the side trying to get things rolling toward a new board and new employees, just watching your posts would have convinced me to jump on the other side's bandwagon. (The reason for the comment, re: Zeek is that I don't know a more caring, loving, compassionate, giving animal lover than Zeek, and he's also as truthful and worthy of trust as one can get, with integrity to spare so, if he says something's so, I know I can trust that information.) smile.gif

The more I read through the various threads that have come and gone regarding the shelter over the past year or so, the more I see a trend happening that scares me more than just a little. Every time Marilyn says she won't work with a "kill" shelter, I'm reminded just how down and dirty fights can get between those who are for "animal rights" and those who profess "animal welfare". And, it looks like the old board, and their many minions, are attempting to spark just such a fight. Please, guys, don't go for it. I've never seen anything nastier than the proponents of these two viewpoints that really should be working together, but just can't seem to find a way to, having it out at each other. Please, continue to take the high road. You've been doing it, but I can see where people like Marilyn Stockwell could provoke a few low road jabs here and there - not that they aren't deserved - but, in the long run, those kinds of fights only hurt the animals so please, if you can at all avoid it, try as hard as you can to just take the high road, do your jobs, your volunteering, your projects for the animals, get the legal stuff straightened out, and steer clear of any public "debates" with these people. They will find a way to drag you down to their level, believe me, and you all are better than that!

I've been involved in hands-on rescue work, both locally and elsewhere, with different kinds of animals - some with sanctuaries, and some with ad hoc groups that rescue, rehabilitate, try to adopt out, and at last chance, place in shelters or sanctuaries. I only say this to give just a tiny bit of credence to what I'm saying about the above.

Now, a few kind of "off-topic" things. Okay, well, maybe not THAT off-topic. I'd like to volunteer some time at the shelter to help get things back together and running smoothly, or even just to spend time with our furry guests. Only BIG problem is that I am in a wheelchair and can't do a lot of the manual labor involved (though you have no idea how much I wish I could. It's been awhile since I shoveled poop :D and I wish I could from my chair, but that won't work). What could I do at the shelter that would be beneficial within the confines of my, uh, limitations? Even if all I can do is hold the animals on my lap and love them for awhile on a regular basis, would that help as far as getting them socialized and ready for adoption? Or, is there anything else you can suggest that I COULD do? I may be in a wheelchair, but I'm still not afraid to get my hands dirty so if there is something I can accomplish cleaning-wise, I'd be up for that too. Just let me know, or have whomever is in charge of volunteers contact me. I'd be thrilled to be involved in whatever way I can help. Just email me at BridgeBuilder@shimaka.com (BridgeBuilder@shimaka.com?subject=PRIVATE-GSHS) and PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE put PRIVATE in all caps in the subject area so I'll be able to pick it out of all the crap I get in my in box from addresses I don't recognize, okay? Thanks so much! (I edited this so the subject should be filled in automatically if you click on the link above to email me :D .)

Marilyn, I have something especially for you. There may be a few others here who might like to have it too, and anyone who wants it is welcome to it. I just wanted to make sure Marilyn knew she needed it, and I'm offering it for her (and anyone else who wants it). I have a freeware spell checker that works as a plug-in with Internet Explorer. Once installed, it puts a button on the top line of your browser that looks just like most spell-checker buttons, and you can spell-check your posts before you post them. You can also add words to your dictionary that are words that aren't already in it, or aren't "words" the dictionary would recognize, like some of our user names - LOL - and then, they won't keep coming up as misspellings. Anyway, for Marilyn (and anyone else who wants it), click on IE Spell Checker (http://www.shimaka.com/bbs/ieSpellSetup.exe) to download the install file for the freeware spell checker. Just double click on the file once it's downloaded, and it will install itself and prompt you if you need to do anything. It's great to use for bulletin board postings, email, if you use Web mail of any kind, or anything else that you write while in your browser. I've been using it for about four years now and don't know how I lived without it. Spelling has never really been a problem for me, but dyslexia of the fingers sure has. LOL Anyway, this helps so, help yourself, Marilyn - PLEASE, and anyone else, feel free, and enjoy, with my blessings!

The last thing is for you, Kaye. I'm so sorry you can't have a furry friend right now, but I want you to know that I'm thinking of you, and I found you a furry friend who desperately needs to come in from the cold, and I know you'll not be able to resist her. So, here she is, just for you:

<CENTER> http://www.shimaka.com/bbs/ColdKitty.gif</CENTER>

I hope you like your new baby, Kaye. I've been looking for just the right mommy for this little urchin, and I know you have a huge heart and will take good care of her. ;)

I'd like to thank all of you who have worked so tirelessly to get the shelter back on track. I wish I could give every last one of you a hug, and maybe at the next meeting, I'll get the chance. I was kind of wrapped up in some medical stuff when the most important meeting took place, but I plan on being at future ones.

Take care, everyone!
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX

[Becky Davis]

Your little kitty is adorable. Wonder what Kaye will name her?

[Uncle Ogre]

Thank you, Phyl. We know you have a very patient attitude, therefore it took some real bulloney to get you mad.Thanks, too for the spell check link.

Stockwell was on the board when it was a regular shelter. She was asked to leave. Now she wants it to be a no kill shelter. Why? Probably to be on the side of the clowns who welcomed her back.

The more she posts, the more she shows her ignorance. So let her keep posting. The truth always comes out.And in fact, the posted lies have helped the people join the current tide toward a great shelter.

[Kaye Miller]

I'm gonna name it Sanna. Gonna share it with all of you. Next time you need a warm fuzzy, bring this picture up...just like I'm going to.

;)

[Becky Davis]

That's cute. Sanna it is.

[Grayfox]

I wish I knew how to send her to all my friends. She is just adorable. Sorta set me back for a minute there though. I wasn't expecting the belly action and frosty breath. I was afraid that I was seeing things.

[Becky Davis]

Huh? What belly action? What frosty breath? What ya talking about Willis?

[Marilyn Stockwell]

I was NEVER asked to "leave" the board. I was put on TEMPORARY suspension untill my legal situation could be settled. I was being sued for having barking dogs. I agreed to debark them in leu of having to get rid of them and when that was settled I was entitled to return to the board and I did. I have always been against a kill shelter but being on the board was one way to work toward that goal and we did it, untill you rabble rousers took over,
(but for long), now it is a kill shelter.

As for Gracie's puppies being out in the rain it happened but before they were adopted, I never said it was yesterday, just that it happened and I believe it. You just won't see the truth for what it is. How come the dogs don't get walked or obedience trained any more? John is a good trainer so he could do it but no the new as** holes don't want him to do that anymore so the dogs are merely wharehousing! What about the cats in the light house??? First off 20 is far to many for that space and with eye infections who would want to adopt one?
PS If you don't like my spelling than please don't read my posts, no one says you have to.

[Grayfox]

Originally posted by Becky Davis:
Huh? What belly action? What frosty breath? What ya talking about Willis? I hope you're just trying to get a rise out of me, Missy. That cat is breathing and don't try and tell me she isn't. She is breathing on to her little paws.

Marilyn, your posts are sort of like a terrible wreck. We all know that we are not going to like what we see, but we just can't turn away. And too, we can't resist seeing just how far you'll go.

[Becky Davis]

Fox, You are sooooo funny!

[kf5wd]

Grayfox

This photo of Grace was taken this morning around 10:50 am. She sure looks and acts fine despite Stockwells assertions.

http://www2.arkansas.net/~krlb3028/grace.jpg

[Zeek Taylor]

Thanks Ken for the great photo of Grace. Hope someone sees it and falls in love with her.
Three-hundred-plus rabble rousers have taken over the GSHS. The rabble rousers are society members who regained control of their organization.
Junk and trash are gone from the shelter and the ES store. Everything is getting cleaner by the day. Adoption rates are high and sales are very good at the stores. All are welcome to visit and see for themselves how much better are both the shelter and thrift stores.
Thanks Shimaka, for the kind words.

[pollym]

She's sooooooooooo.....cute. I can't believe someone hasn't given Grace a home....I wish I had room for one more....I'd take her in a minute.

Marilyn....I don't know you so I don't want to pass judgment if anything I actually feel sorry for you. You are allowing an unreasonable hate to consume you....You need to get on with your life. You're not going to change anything with catty remarks and hateful words. Why not try a little kindness maybe people would start listening to you.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

I never said that Gracie wasn't fine, I said she had ring worm as diagnosed by her vet and had been placed outside in a pen with 4 new puppies endangering them as to the ringworm. The answer given for putting her out there was "she barked to much", funny....she never barked to much when I was there, wonder what the difference is? Oh, I know....we took her for walks! Duh. Won't be long now folks, you have some surprises comming your way and I can hardly waite!

[b lake lady]

Look at those eyes. Ken, this is a wonderful picture. How big is Grace?

[Grayfox]

Thank you so much, Ken. She is adorable. I'd like to have her too. I'll bet she will be taking over someone's heart very soon.
I can hardly waite to see what surprises we have comming either.

[1954]

Sounds like a little bit of a threat there, Marilyn....here's a threat for you. Nobody better do anything to the animals there during these surprises we have coming.

You, my lady, have no clue as to what is happening in that shelter now. It is finally a good place to visit, a good smelling place, a friendly place and the management, thank you, is doing quite well. If the animals were not being treatly properly, my friends and I would know it...just like we knew they were NOT being cared for properly before, we knew that, and we are proud to be part of the over 300 crowd that cares.

And by the way, what happened to some of those small pedigreed animals that came in and rapidly disappeared without being held in some cases overnight? Any answers for those? Where DID they go? HMMMMM Did Mary Rein happen to clue you in about where they went?

[Marilyn Stockwell]

Yes, they were adopted, in fact I got one of them as a gift for my mother, a neutered male. I was there when several were adopted. Pure bred dogs will go fast especially if they are little and cute. What do you mean the animals weren't taken care of before??? They had far better care than they will EVER have at a kill shelter, just putting those puppies out in the cold and rain is enough to show me that! Only time i was there, after rough riders took over; the place stunk the whole day long and no one would clean puppies either. Please don't tell me any different I was there.
Just what makes you think the animals will be harmed re the surpris??? You are all nuts if you think that! The surprise is comming but none of the animals will suffer. tongue.gif

[Becky Davis]

There should be records of the purebreds adopted out...correct? Did you pay your forty five dollars Marilyn?

[kf5wd]

Grace is medium size and is now considered a Husky mix rather than a pure bred Grey Hound as previously identified by Mary/Marilyn.

[DaBee]

Originally posted by Marilyn Stockwell:
I was NEVER asked to "leave" the board. I was put on TEMPORARY suspension untill my legal situation could be settled. I was being sued for having barking dogs. I agreed to debark them in leu of having to get rid of them and when that was settled I was entitled to return to the board and I did. When did this temporary suspension take place? What was the year?

[kf5wd]

Look what we just got in today at the shelter!
http://www2.arkansas.net/~krlb3028/trpups.jpg

[Grayfox]

Oh my. What dolls they are! I'll bet that they don't hang around for long.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

Yes I did. You are such a shady bunch, like what, I stole him?

[Marilyn Stockwell]

We NEVER re to Gracie as a "Greyhound" are you nuts? And for your info Grace has absolutely no "Huskey" in her and anyone who knows anything at all about dogs would ever think she had any huskey in her! Just more proof of the ignorance of you all. Huskey! Right, what a laugh.If anything she is a 100% mut with probably some hound in there, have any of you ever seen a huskey?

[Gaylord Wright]

Marilyn is a moron.
Sory, it jest spooed out of ma month.

[Grayfox]

You should see what spooed out of myne. I deleatd it becuze I felt I wuz fitin a luzin batle.

[BRIGHT1]

Ya know I have never seen anyone agree with Marilyn on this board since Ive been lurking here, most despise her posts, Ya think she is into self mutilation?

[DaBee]

Like in how she mulilates the English language or her dogs' voice boxes?

[belle]

Forty five dollars???? I thought it was sixty, that was what Mary charged for readopting a dog that was returned that never went into a cage. I was there today and what a change, clean caring,bright and no SMOKE and no odors. Everyone ws very helpfull and the area was organized. Every animal seemed to have it's place and was content.

[outsider2002]

If I were you, I would archive some of these accusations/threats by that Marilyn...
Sounds like she needs to be closer investigated (re. those puppies that appeared/disappeared overnight)

[Dixie]

I was at the shelter today, and what a change! It was clean and did not smell at all. The biggest change was the Lighthouse. It was bright and cheery, the cats were content and beautiful. The sofa was clean and music was playing for them. It looked more like when it was built. When I saw it Labor Day weekend, it was dark and dirty and the cats all were hiding. Today the cats looked clean and healthy--no runny eyes. And the cat room has some really beautiful adult cats who love their perches with the new tile. Great work everyone!
We STILL NEED VOLUNTEERS at the thrift shops. Some of our volunteers are leaving for the winter or are having medical problems. If you could work 3 hours a week at either shop, please call me at 253-4972.

[Becky Davis]

I was just guessing at forty five.

[1954]

I may actually have to agree with Marilyn on Gracie. I have not seen anything but the picture, but if she is small with short legs like it appears that she may be, I'd say hound, maybe even a little Bassett thrown in there? Whatever, she is darned cute. No Husky that I can see there in that girl.

[Grayfox]

Well wasn't Marilyn originally told that Gracie was a greyhound? Bless her heart, she only repeats what she's told to.
I doubt that she ever saw the dog unless someone strolled it through the office where she visited so often, and long.
Gracie doesn't care what her ancestory is, she just wants to go home with someone.

[White Bread]

An individual of a species will not always (outwardly) express traits or genes of their breeds and heredity.

[Old Thing]

Dixie, I, too, was recently at the shelter, and agree: it has never been better. Now you can sit on the couch in the Lighthouse to pet kitties without being afraid you'll take some fatal cat disease home with you. Clean, clean...and so many "Adopted" signs on pens. Nobody with half a brain could argue that things are not for the better now. Construe the last sentence as you will.

[Grayfox]

Well from the picture, I'm inclined to think that she's part beagle, but that doesn't make it so. She sort of has a beagle face.

[1954]

She reminds me of my Beagle/Bloodhound actually...but she is more the Beagle side...oh well, let's just hope she gets a great home.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

I saw Gracie every day, she is of mediume height and has a bad front leg that she limps on she isn't short legged at all and I NEVER called her a greyhound! I've shown dogs for over 40 years I would know believve me! The "greyhound" was a starved dog that you all have never seen as she went to hound rescue just like i said at the time! She also had puppies.

outsider....what the heck are you talking about "re puppies that appeared/dissipeared overnight"???????? No puppies dissapeared at any time. God, get your facts together.

[MargaritaMaker]

I saw a poster at SunFest today, something about a missing Sheltie. Did one of yours go missing, Marilyn?

I can't believe you wouldn't take advantage of the local Geekfest readership to advertise the fact that you need help finding one of your beloved pets. You aren't shy about using it for other reasons.

[JrtLover]

those terrier mixes are Bichon and terrier....cute lil pups....

[outsider2002]

MS: 1956 said:"And by the way, what happened to some of those small pedigreed animals that came in and rapidly disappeared without being held in some cases overnight? Any answers for those? Where DID they go? HMMMMM Did Mary Rein happen to clue you in about where they went? "

THAT is what I was alluding to in my above post.

[1954]

Is that the hounds rescue that is run by Noreen that was at the shelter for a while (the one that took the greyhounds)?

[Marilyn Stockwell]

Most of the purebreds go out the same day if someone sees them, also there is a waiting list of people who want certian kinds of dogs, when one comes in they are called and the dog is adopted. I paid only $45.00 for Kirby as he was already neutered. What were you thinking re the purebred ones that came in as to where they went?

I never thought of advertising for my lost dog on geekfest, as he was lost here on the island, I am in hopes that someone has found him and will see the poster. How did you know it was my dog? Yes, please if anyone sees a very small black Sheltie with a white face blaze legs and chest and tail tip he is mine, he and a few others got out my front door as I didn't close it tight and was in the back with the others when they all got out, all the rest came back but Smidgen never did. I have walked the woods and driven the roads and put up posters so i hape my baby comes home soon.

[pollym]

Marilyn, I'm sorry your dog is missing I hope you find him real soon.....

[Grayfox]

Me too. It's too cold for a house dog to be roaming around.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

Yes, Noreen waas the lady who took the greyhound mix.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

Thank you for your concern re my missing baby, I've been just sick over it.

[islandvideo]

Marilyn, when did your baby go missing? I'll be on the lookout for him - I seem to attract lost dogs and have reunited many with their owners.

Have two puppies up here on Mercury that were dumped nearly two weeks ago and am on the waiting list at the shelter. They're sweet baby boys, if anyone is interested - would love to see them be adopted together, they're very dependent on each other. I can't believe someone dumped them! Sometimes it's not a good thing to be known as an animal lover. I am really sick & tired and very resentful of people dumping their responsibilities, i.e.dogs/puppies/cats/kittens, on me. Got my own damn problems.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

He got lost a month ago. He dissapeared so fast, not more than 10 min and poof no Smidgen! He was my heart dog, more than all the others I love him most of all i just can't think of where he could be. I hope he isn't still in the woods somewhere!

I get tired of people dumping their animals too, like it was just an item to be dumped. I also hate people who let their dogs ride in the back of trucks.

[outsider2002]

Originally posted by Marilyn Stockwell:
He got lost a month ago. He dissapeared so fast, not more than 10 min and poof no Smidgen! He was my heart dog, more than all the others I love him most of all i just can't think of where he could be.
I'm sorry, but this doesn't sit right with me! A whole month ago?!? :eek:
Sorry, but this really sounds fishy to me. :rolleyes:
If it really is 'your heart dog', why didn't you post this EVERYWHERE??? Did you put up posters at least?

[White Bread]

I saw one at wal mart today

[outsider2002]

Originally posted by White Bread:
I saw one at wal mart today Yeah, but IT'S ONE MONTH LATER!!! If she had done it immediately, people could have helped keeping an eye out for the dog. Who knows if he was injured somewhere and needed help?
I hope he got found by a loving person.

[White Bread]

I saw the flyer today but I have no idea how long it had been up there. Yeah, for sure I hope the dog is ok. Was he one of the debarked? I hope if he was hung up somewhere he could make noise and get someone's attention to help him.

[Barb Dunnam]

Jimminy Christmas. The woman lost a loved pet and you are after her like I just can't begin to say. You have no idea just what she did to try to find her dog. Why would she have posted here right away. Its not as if she has much love or support on this board.

I'm sorry but it would be great if folks would just let up a bit.

Going back to my corner now.

Marilyn I hope your Doggie is safe and sound. I hope he was scooped up and is living fat and happy with a goood family.

If I see or hear anything I will let you know ASAP. Think loving happy thoughts.


Gnite Everyone and I wish peace and clarity of heart to all of you.

[Grayfox]

Barb, we all hope the dog is safe, and as Outsider said, in a loving home. I think what we are puzzled about is why Marilyn has been on this board a dozen or more times in the last month and never stopped her diatribe long enough to say, oh by the way, my dog is missing, would everyone be on the lookout.
I really think anyone here would love to find the dog whether we think Marilyn is a nut, or not. It doesn't take us supporting HER to want the dog safe.
Most of us probably have no intention of "letting up" but we also hope the dog is well and happy.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

Thank you Barb Dunnam, I had posters up locally and than thought of walmart and put one there too. All I can say is I've never missed anything more. Oh, and he can bark, he was a house dog and didn't bark a lot so I didn't debark. Also....most dogs who are caught on something don't bark it is a natural instinct for animals when lost or caught not to bark as this draws attention of preditors so they keep quiet. He didn't have a collar for just that reason so he couldn't get caught , I don't collar any of my dogs for just that reason. One thing about Shelties, when they get lost they never seem to know how to get back home again.

[pollym]

I'm not taking sides.....I too don't like the way Marilyn has expressed herself in her posts ....but the woman has lost a pet very dear to her heart......In an earlier post she tells why she didn't post it on "Geekfest."

"I never thought of advertising for my lost dog on geekfest, as he was lost here on the island,"

[Grayfox]

How many geekfesters live on the island?

[pollym]

Checked pages 4-5-6-7 of this posting and besides Marilyn found only two other people who state they live or work at Holiday Island......I'm sure there are many more that use Geekfest...but these are the ones that have been following this discussion.....

[White Bread]

Many of us live at H.I.

[Becky Davis]

I am sure he is safe and sound somewhere. Shelties are sought after pets and most people would pick them up. However, I wouldn't count on getting him back...if it has been a month. So many people travel thru Eureka on the way to somewhere else.
If someone locally has found a sheltie, please return him to his owner, who misses him terribly.
Do they have a lost dog bb at the Good Shepherd site?

[kf5wd]

BD
Yes, they keep a "Lost" as well as a "Found" binder.

[kf5wd]

We still need insulation for the floor of the Light House. The joists are on 24" centers and the area to be insulated is 14' X 16'. Insulation should probably be at least R19 rating. Anyone wishing to contribute to this need should contact me.

[Grayfox]

Ken, has anyone checked on the price for that amount?

[Barb Dunnam]

Ken,


Please contact Lowe's. It is the time of the year when they are generous with giving to charitable causes through doated product.
Seeing as you are needing insulation and it will not be seen they will be more able to give you open packages etc.

Barb

[1954]

Celeste, can I please have your number again?

[kf5wd]

Thanks for the lead. Just rec'd several donated bats today but not sure yet if it is enough. Understand some place in Fayettville offer free styrofoam for the taking. Am investigating that also.

[Bowana]

Hi I'm new on this forum...........
I am so glad to see the shelter back in good hands. It was obviously being run into the ground,for what reason I don't know?
This Marilyn person obviously has a real problem.
Her life must revolve around hate and misery.
I feel sorry for her.........
The shelter is totaly about the animals and placing them in good homes.........not about who did what to who.........
charge on board......you have my support

[1954]

Was at the shelter today. It was clean, workers were friendly, there were several volunteers walking dogs and petting cats. It was a wonderful place to be on a sunny Sunday afternoon.

[Dixie]

Thanks for all your support and encouragement, but unfortunately it takes more than good wishes--it takes money. That's where the thrift shops come in. We have been doing very well, but still need volunteers now. Do you have 3 hours a week to spare? Also, we are accepting donations at both stores now, but PLEASE only items in good condition and items that can be handled by one person. There is a chair, gas dryer, and mattress and box springs (appear to be in good condition) in front of the MO shop that we really can't use--will someone please take it away. If we have to pay to have things like this hauled away, that's money that could have been used to support the shelter.

[Cheryl Johnson]

If anyone is interested in helping walk dogs from the shelter in the christmas parade,please call me....253-9683.We also have a truck,but there are only a few spots left to ride.The parade is this Friday at 6:00...but we will need to assemble earlier.Thanks

[Marilyn Stockwell]

I was under the impression that you all had tons of vol.? It was said that they were waiting for the new crew to take over and they were just "waiting in the wings"! What has happened? Back when Boyd had the thrift shops there were around 60 vols , I don't know if that is true or not but they sure never had to plead for vol.! The shops were open daily and never a vol problem.

[arjay]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Marilyn Stockwell:
[QB] I was under the impression that you all had tons of vol.?

who do you think hauled away the "TONS" of trash you left behind?

[Uncle Ogre]

Do you volunteer, Marilyn???? NO. So why don't you shut up? That would be a positive thing for you to do.
All you have done is make negative statements... By the way, there were not 60 volunteers... Ask George Harris how many times he had to open the shop because voulteers didn't show up.
Ask how many times it was just plain closed.

[kf5wd]

"Back when Boyd had the thrift shops there were around 60 vols "
And all the thrift shop income went to pay expenses, Boyd and his "contractors"
None was left for the animals.

[Kaye Miller]

So, for those of us watching the drama unfold, where is Boyd now? Has the bank account been turned over to the new board? Anyone throwing up any roadblocks in getting this settled? Is there a court date?

Or, if you would rather not say, that's ok.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

Yes, I vol three days a week for about 6 mo. Where were you? You also didn't answer my question, where are all of those vols? You all said they were just waiting to help out, soon as the new board was in, well???? Where are they?

[Grayfox]

There probably wasn't room enough in the office for all of you. Maybe they were out doing something, who knows?

[1954]

Sort ot looks like the thrift shop is doing quite well even if there are fewer volunteers.......not sure......I have never been really familiar with the thrift shop operations, just the shelter. I am actually speaking about the Eureka thrift shop, don't know much about the Mo. one.

[pollym]

Marilyn I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt...I thought maybe a little kindness would soften your heart....BUT BOY WAS I WRONG! You have no heart and no brain. If you really cared about the animals you'd put your pettiness aside and use your talents to help make them more adoptable. And I don't want to hear how "you won't work for a kill shelter." That's no excuse. You should think of the ones you COULD save. You know your problem? YOU AND YOUR BUDDIES LOST and you can't stand it!!!!!!!! Can't you see Bush Boyd was a manipulator and thief who abused your trust and almost brought the shelter to its knees with his greed. I hate to say this but, I think your mother should have drowned you with the rest of the litter.

[Grayfox]

:D :D :D

[favabean]

pollym...i was with you on your last post right up to the last sentence. i dont know ms stockwell and have often wondered why she keeps posting only to be belittled and ridiculed by people. i think she has been brainwashed by the previous board . because i dont know her i can not question her lack of heart but have wondered about her lack of brains in being so loyal to what appears to be a former board with lack of scruples. while we are on the same page i have to speak up concerning your last statement about how she should have been thrown out with the rest of her litter. i know it was meant to be a witty little knock down but imagine what the real message was......you are not worth being alive is what i am sure she heard. this woman deserves an apology not only from you but from every other geekfester who read your post and did not step up to the plate to express how offensive it was.

[DaBee]

fava....I didn't step up because I'm trying to not add any energy to anything that has to do with the aforementioned 3 days a week for 6 months volunteer. Just when I think it's fading away (finally), there it is, back on page 1. Realize that that's what I'm doing now, but it seems important that I say that I agree with how offensive the last sentence of the post is.....to me, myself and I. PollyM....a little secret of mine is that when I see that I might have stepped over the line on something that I say, I just go back and edit my post and take out the not so nice line. It's legal because you're taking back your own words....really! I'm not telling you what to do....take it, leave it...that's up to you. I'm just sharing some of my tricks of the trade. I really would like to leave this negativity behind. It serves no purpose. Everything is lighter and brighter and cleaner and friendlier when it comes to GSHS. This is what I love about our community when we put our thoughtful, loving hearts together.

[Grayfox]

I've heard that expression all my life and have always thought it was funny. I realize that no one actually means that the person should have been drowned, but is just making a point of how disgusted they are with that person.
It seems to me that all of us here on Geekfest have said things that a few others found offensive. In fact, I sometimes think that EVERYTHING I say is taken that way.
I think Marilyn is probably laughing up her sleeve at this whole thing.

[mtnviewsteve]

:cool:
If you "hate to say something" best advice is "Don't say it."
:cool:

[Becky Davis]

Oh my, did her Mom really drown the litter?

[Marilyn Stockwell]

.....and to think.....all I asked about was where are the vols? I see requests for help so i naturally have to wonder because before it was stated that there were many vols just waiting to jump in. I just wondered what happened to them all?
As for my being involved in a kill shelter ...no way! I'd be training some poor dog one day and he's dead the next day. I can't look into the eyes of the dogs knowing they will be put down. In short I won't support such a shelter. asnd I know of many others who feel the same way. Simple...go back to the newer bilaws and I'll vol.

[kf5wd]

"I can't look into the eyes of the dogs knowing they will be put down."
I think she is telling the truth here. She never looked at all the dogs/cats that met untimely deaths because they were not admitted to the "limited access shelter". As long as she didn't have to look them in the eyes, it didn't matter what happened to them.

[OvertheRiver]

You know, if GSHS is REALLY all about the animals, why do y'all persist in picking at each other? It's most unattractive and is probably turning people off from supporting the shelter.

In the spirit of the season, please bury your differences and unite to help the animals...somehow, I feel they have been lost in all of this bickering.

[Grayfox]

But OTR, she wants to know where the Vols are. We know, don't we? ;)

[becsflowers]

..."this woman deserves an apology not only from you but from every other geekfester who read your post and did not step up to the plate to express how offensive it was."

Holy Favabeans. You might find watching television an interesting alternative to watching us bitch.... er, um, "learn how to play nice with others".

[OvertheRiver]

Becs! But the learning curve is SOOO SLOOOWWW!!

[becsflowers]

I'm not clapping.

[Grayfox]

You're not clapping? Then I'm not apologizing, so there. (Do I have to clap, though? Don't want to do that either.)

[topsy]

Does that mean you don't got the clap, Becs?

[becsflowers]

Originally posted by topsy:
Does that mean you don't got the clap, Becs? That would be correct topsy

[pollym]

Sorry, I won't apologize for what I said. If some didn't understand my tongue in cheek remark, to them I'm sorry...but I believe that Marilyn is smart enough that she understood it...and if she didn't, and asks for an apology, I will gladly give it to her. I was upset because the woman never gives an inch. She's always got something bad to say about everyone and everything. I tried being nice to her but she prefers being mistreat. She seems to feed off it....so I simply gave her a snack.....

[becsflowers]

Then why apologize for not apologizing? LOL!

[Marilyn Stockwell]

I just want you all to know that they have killed 3 dogs and a couple of cats at the shelter!!!!!!!!!!!!Two more are on the list, one of those is Sam a dog that I trained in obedience and I am just sick that he will be killed, just shows that you all lied when you said no animals were going to be killed! Sam walks on a loose leash, sits, stays, lies down and comes on call sitting neatly in front of his handler. He likes to shake hands and have his tummy scratched. He is a real sweet dog that loves kids but doesn't get along with other male dogs I am just sick, I will forever be haunted by the look in his eyes the last time I saw him. What a terrible crew works there now, no dog is safe there. My poor Sam will never know why he had to die, he worked so hard to learn his obedience and was so proud of himself. I have cried for him all day. If I could keep him here I'd take him in a heartbeat but I have 17 dogs and can't risk their safety Sam needs a one animal home that is his only vice and many dogs don't mix well. What a rotten shame.

[Gaylord Wright]

So your weeping, broken heart doesn't know of one single, solitary soul on planet earth that could spare Sam's life? Or are you so distraught over his impending doom that you can't even function? Barely able to exert the energy to post what a horrible loss we are facing? Buck up, get up and save the pup, girl. His death will be on your hands too. Or do you just want to play the 'for shame' game? What a "terrible" thing it is for you to just stand by and let this happen!

[Holland Burger]

Marilyn, would love to know who wrote the post under your name. Don't you know how obvious it is? Be very careful in attaching your name to accusations. I'm certain your sources are not too close to the facts. Unfounded talk can create more grief for the cause.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

Like i said.....Sam doesn't get along with other male dogs, I have 17 dogs here now and several are males so I can't take him and don't you dare put that off on me you jack ass!! Sam's death will be on the hands of that damn Mary Mcfadden who has no soul, I can't wait to heare how she dies I hope she suffers the worst kind of agony before dieing and i hope it's soon! You folks lied when you all said they weren't going to kill any animals, there are only 38 dogs at the shelter so making room isn't the reason. Ken Bates will be glad to know that Lena was killed too, he didn't want her killed I'm sorry they did that to her.

[Gaylord Wright]

Originally posted by Marilyn Stockwell:
Like i said.....Sam doesn't get along with other male dogs, I have 17 dogs here now and several are males so I can't take him and don't you dare put that off on me you jack ass!! Sam's death will be on the hands of that damn Mary Mcfadden who has no soul, I can't wait to heare how she dies I hope she suffers the worst kind of agony before dieing and i hope it's soon! You folks lied when you all said they weren't going to kill any animals, there are only 38 dogs at the shelter so making room isn't the reason. Ken Bates will be glad to know that Lena was killed too, he didn't want her killed I'm sorry they did that to her. It's on you sister jack-ass, whether you like it or not. I don't wish for a soulless, damned, imminent agony of death on you as you do others. Just get out there, save the dog, learn a wee bit of grammar and become remotely familiar with a spell check. That should be torture enough for you.

[twodogs]

Marilyn: This is the reason why people should STOP BREEDING! There are 11 million others just like Sam that get put to sleep every year because no one wants them. Fix your own animals Marilyn, then help with the spay and neuter cause...You have no room to talk until you completely stop the madness. Even intent to breed down the line and not now discredits you.

As the old saying goes...don't breed or buy while they die! It's tragic! I agree! So ask yourself what you can do about it in your own pack.

[Grayfox]

It's always sad when an animal has to be put down, but they can't all be saved. They would have to change the name from shelter to retirement home.I wish that all the animals could find homes, but that isn't realistic, I know.

[kf5wd]

I normally would not respond to Marilyn's ravings but I feel I must since she linked me with the cat "Lena".
I hate to see any animal destroyed but it is necessary and humane in most cases. Lena came to the shelter a friendly cat. Unfortunately she was kept in a cage across from Gracie who barked constantly. Lena became terrified and after a couple of weeks became untouchable and dangerous to handle. It was dangerous to feed her and clean her pen. Had she been properly cared for, she could have been adoptable. In this case, euthanasia was the humane thing to do.

[Old Thing]

I know little or nothing about law, but isn't that deranged woman culpable for slander? She has raved on about a kind and sincere person, even wishing a horrible death...and soon. She sounds dangerous, and surely there is something that can be done about her...the Pasteur series, at least.

[1954]

So Lena was put across from a dog? That must have been under Mary Rein's care???? You know Mary put dogs in the cat room and when Minnie came in, she was put in there with ALL dogs, whereupon she had a miscarriage. I know that Linda Winter asked Mary Rein at least twice to not put the dogs right there in the same room with the cats, that the cats where terrified as it was. Linda was in the shelter the other day and changed Lena's litter box and was asking the story on her because she was so unhappy with Linda being in her area. I feel so sorry about any dog or cat having to be put down, but there are so, so many out there waiting to get in out of the cold. The waiting list is growing and growing, and if the ones in the shelter are not adoptable, there just have to be some hard decisions. Linda has always said she is really torn about this no kill practice, because the only correct decision is fo everyone to spay and neuter so we won't have the problem in the first place. Linda has taken several feral cats from the shelter to tame. She has one right now that she has had in her home for three years and she has yet to be able to touch her. On the other hand, she has ferals that she has trapped outside that now sleep with her. If we had all kinds of help at the shelter and even one person just for the purpose of taming it would be wonderful, but there is not money to provide someone with a job like that. After learning about Lena, Linda has made a new committment to try to volunteer in that particular area. She and friends have in the past taken dogs that were apparently unadoptable as well. One that Linda has is wonderful and very normal, the other had been at the shelter for one year and three months, and Sena will never be a normal door. She was in the kennel for much too long, and she had even been made the office dog for a while to try to bring her out of her `'kennelization." It is not a happy life to live in a cage for months and months, and some dogs are definitely better off not being kept like that.

And Marilyn, I understand your heartache and so does Linda (who, once again, cannot get her server to post on here so that is while I am speaking for her) but please do not think that way about Mary McFadden. She DOES have a heart and does not enjoy putting animals to sleep and in fact, I don't think she is the one doing it now, not sure about that part,. She is determined to make the shelter a comfortable, efficient, happy place to be and from we have seen, it is spotless.

[1954]

obviously meant to say in previous post that Sena will never be a normal Dog, not Door!!!!

[Grayfox]

I think we all make typos, so no big deal. Your post is very clear and informative.Thanks.

[favabean]

i am embarrassed by my naivte'. apparantly there are no rules of decency when posting on geekfest. even tho i understood the tongue-in-cheek humor of the statement made by pollym, i felt like it crossed the line. once again i think the statements made by marilyn were offensive. actually, exponentially offensive because there was not any humor involved. IMO to wish someone pain and an agonizing death is unspeakably over the line. i will continue to lurk as i am interested in the comings and goings of the town and will try not to empathize with anyone regarding how an offensive post may or may not affect someone.

[Marilyn Stockwell]

There needs top be a dog pound opened one small shelter could not ever take in all the loose dogs and cats no matter what! We did just fine as a no kill shelter. Our adoption rate was above the norm and those dogs and cats that couldn't come in were given food and fostered by the person who found them untill there was an opening. any dogs that were in the cat room were young dogs that weere in quarenteen. Can't put those dogs out with the generasl population. That was why Mary was trying to get an isolation weard built in the kennel. No one who loves animals could kill them no matter how you speak of Mary Mcfadden she is a souless ghool! I can't wait to hear she is dead, may she rot there, and anyone else who is killing the animals.

[Kim]

Enough!

If you want to talk about the shelter, start a new thread. This one is being put out of our misery.