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William Ames
06-20-2002, 01:23 AM
Jests and barbs really dont serve my sensibilities, I am quite frankly tired of hearing critisms, and expect those who do so to have solutions. If you see the dishes dirty, dont complain, wash them.
We have as dysfunctional community as we do an elected city government. When the community understands it has to be 'live and let live', we will start to make progress. Until that time, we will all have to put up with the pettyness, fears, and ignorance of each other.
There are 3 commission chairmen,- Jon Loudermilk, Butch Berry and Bruce Levine - each of these men have qualities which would make any one of them an excellent choice for mayor. One of the primary qualifications is none of them want the job. I would vote for anyone of these men.
I have questioned a number of people about each of the people running for the various city offices. Sorry to say, each of them has so many "issues", they will be unable to serve the 'community at large' and will perpetuate the divisions we are living with. I have a great deal of respect for each of the people running, dont mis-understand me, and if they did not have active conflicts in progress I could support any one of them. Seems like each of them have some 'amens' to deal with before they will be worthy.
My job is observation, and not a whole lot gets by me - its my choice - if I show it to you or not. Yellow journalism, and crises does not serve the political process.
I want positive solutions, or at least the attempt.
In defense of Beau, he has done some very positive things, his manner, has alienated a lot of people, but that is personality, not his deeds. He is the mayor, and the office, to diminish him - diminishes the office and the dignity of the office. You who are slandering and critizing are hurting the city and the entire political system. I simply do not respect people who behave in this manner.
If you have solutions - lets hear them -
bill
Chelseas_mommy
06-20-2002, 02:17 AM
Not to be rude, but I don't think that you can not respect someone simply based on their opinions and the fact that they are verbal about them.
'I am quite frankly tired of hearing critisms, and expect those who do so to have solutions.'
Are you trying to tell me that while you sit here and critisize some of the people in my town, you have a solution to it?
Again, not to be rude, but I value peoples opinion and do not think of anyone in this town as ignorant. I was taught that I should respect everyone, no matter what they have said or done. I have high respect for the members of this community, not matter how dysfunctional you think that they are. No offense, but my daddy taught me that if I don't like what someone has to say, then I shouldn't listen to it, it is in their right to say it.
I respect every single person in this town, I respect them for their nerve, their ambitions and I respect them because no matter what you have done, they forgive you.
I would like it if you could rephrase your post, I, like a few more people, may find it offensive and disrespectful to people who have nothing to do with all of this. So maybe you could name names or get more specific, because the WHOLE community is not ignorant or doesn't deserve for you to not respect them, just the selected few that you have in your head. So I think that you should either name people or get off your high horse. (Not to be rude http://www.geekfest.com/ubb/smile.gif ) You could have discussed these issues without being so rude and critical.
Sorry if I sound mean, I don't mean to, but you really hit a soft spot. Eurekas people make Eureka Springs. They add color, life and energy. And not one provides ignorance in my opinion, but I might be wrong, and I probably am. But you introduce me to your people, and I will introduce you to mine.
Jamie Williams
William Ames
06-20-2002, 07:46 AM
Jamie
Although the post names me newby I have many years of observation here.
Soft spot - well good - re-read my letter and write to the issues I put forth.
The community dysfunction, is the inability to agree on anything or anyone.
You may call me 'rude' - I personally prefer blunt and tactless, and doubt seriously I will change.
The word 'ignorance' means simply - there is an area a person doesnt know something about, but could learn.
Note I did not use 'stupid' - meaning an inablity to learn.
Name names Jamie - I gave you 4 - each in a positive light.
I respect the political system - and the office's - to attack the individual while in office, for conduct, attitude, etc. is quite common today. It is not right. I make a serious attempt to see the good each of our elected and appointed officals performs. I believe rewarding that behavior will accomplish more than calling attention to the (remarks) sometimes made.
I gave you a solution - "live and let live"
Bill
just wondering
06-20-2002, 08:07 AM
William Ames, if you think you have the "solution", you run for Mayor. Live in the city?
Becky Davis
06-20-2002, 09:21 AM
I agree with you William Ames.
Especially the part about Beau, Butch, Bruce and Jon.
sweetness&light
06-20-2002, 11:17 AM
You say you would vote for any of the 3 men you mentioned for mayor. The others have too many issues. Have you spoken with Sherry Wilson who is running for mayor? I don't know her so I have no bias one way or the other as to whether or not she has "issues."
If you have been reading this board for the last few years, you will have noticed every subject comes up anew every few months, whether the person posting has just moved into town or just noticed whatever the perceived problem. Most all of us are so opinionated that we don't hesitate to jump in with our own sure-fire, perfect answer to solve the problem....whether anybody agrees or not, is a whole other matter. It seems we already are "live and let live" as few seem to be able to come together, except in time of need.
Royal has brought many issues to light to make us think and sometimes when he gets on a certain subject, which shall remain nameless, he drives some of us nuts. He has the experience in a&p and I have learned a lot from his posts, so he does offer solutions. jf501 brings issues for us and offers his solution. jw...well, jw has almost convinced even me to start shopping in MO to save paying taxes on food, but I haven't done the math of gas/wear&tear on the car compared to paying local taxes.
Everybody has their own approving or disapproving view of matters going on here and in the world and one of these days, one of the solutions will stick to the wall. We might even become famous....again!
Lany Ballance
06-20-2002, 12:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sweetness&light:
It seems we already are "live and let live" as few seem to be able to come together, except in time of need.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
As so many of us have witnessed, when this community comes together in time of need it is a beautiful, heartwarming and immensely powerful phenomenon.
Shine On, People of Eureka!
Rachal
06-20-2002, 03:19 PM
There is so much talent in this town, I just hate to see it go to waste. People on this board and the other continue to gripe and complain, but no one actually does anything. People degrade Beau, and other businesses, and city ordinances, and BANKS---we are hoping for world peace half a world away, and we can't even get along in a town of 2000 people??? I just think that if you have the energy to voice your opinion, and if something really bothers you that much, then you should have the energy to go to city council meetings, open your own business, give your ideas- do whatever you think may make us a better place to be. If you don't vote, don't complain about the elected-- if you don't contibute positively to this town, don't complain. I just think that if we all give 5% more than we give now, this town could once again be the "Tourist Town" it once was. What do ya think?
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"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."
- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Royal Alcott
06-20-2002, 03:57 PM
Rachal- Never BANKS, only criminals.
sweetness&light
06-20-2002, 04:23 PM
Rachal, I think most of us who are concerned about what's going on DO own businesses and that's why we're so concerned. In a tourist town with no other economy, we are dependent upon marketing our product, our town, our services for the tourist, all the natural beauty to experience. Not many can afford to advertise heavily on our own and that's why we do depend upon entities like CAPC. When businesses who collect the tax find they aren't getting the promotion according to what was budgeted, then they start asking questions, complaining, etc. because they want us all to succeed.
I just heard that the "other" Visitors' Center at Swiss Holiday Visitor Center (Joe McClung's motel) has booked Merle Haggard Show and Albert E. Brumley Jr. at the auditorium September 29 and 30th. Now there's someone who went out and did it...I have no idea if complaining was involved....probably, because I don't know anyone in town who doesn't complain...unless they're a secret saint.
So...to sum up....yes, we do complain and yes, we are doing something about it. Just because it hasn't been broadcast or told to others doesn't mean we're not working behind the scenes or on our own to make something happen. Like the old saying: the squeaky wheel gets the grease and baby, I'm about to get all greasy!!
Rachal
06-20-2002, 05:37 PM
I totally understand your point of view, as my mother owned a restaurant downtown for 10 years, and there are plenty of times I remember her frustrated. I am just saying- what is stopping us?? I mean if EVERY business owner was mad enough that they all marched into Beau's shop at once, I bet that may do something! Obviously these council people are not getting the point just from the messages posted here. I think we need to have a GIANT gathering of opinions, from all business owners that are paying these taxes!!
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"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."
- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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